Thoughts on Legion?
like do you guys think he’s overpowered? Underpowered? Too good or too bad? Balance for unbalanced? I’m just confused at this point..
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Underpowered.
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underpowered, still enjoy playing them anyway.
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I agree, I am a spirit, legion, and huntress main :)
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I love playing Legion! But they are so bad right now. I got a 6 page "Rework Legion" thread over in Feedback if you wanna see some ideas from Legion mains on how to make them better! Kinda combining all the ones I agree with (With the OP's permission) to make a "One Stop Shop." as it were.
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I main him, he's okay, but struggles with fear (mending)
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They need some way to use their power to help them get a down. Right now they feel too basic.
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Mob mentality in my thread would be good for that
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Overall, possibly underpowered.
If Feral Frenzy was changed to not reveal the location of people in lockers, then he could be buffed in other areas.
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Need moderate buffs in most departments, I don't think he should get a complete rework like freddy as some people have been suggesting.
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Underpowered, but can be forced to red ranks if you know what you're doing. They're heavily information based, so being able to act on that is what defines a good Legion player from the mediocre ones.
I disagree, since that is part of the reason they have the perk Iron Maiden. I personally think the change they need is to DW, since if their power wasn't centered around that, they could have much more freedom.
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Good blood point generation and the scoring system is kind to them.
I can pip more consistently with Legion than other killers in my experience. The only killer I ever got a Merciless Victory even with one escaping via hatch.
Most of the add ons are underwhelming, but some are fun.
Good mind games are possible outside of Frenzy due to small size.
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Yall know my thoughts on it
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I love playing Legion, but he is not in a great place right now.
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They have good mobility, and can rarely injure all survivors with a well timed combo attack, but their power has been ultimately declawed. When legion was first released, survivors had a 30 second timer to mend the wound over 12 seconds, and dared not get hit again while mending because it not only reset the mend timer, it also reduced the time we had to mend before we'd go down. For obvious reasons this encouraged tunneling after the initial hit, and provided no counter play against them. I was all for a slight nerf, but what they've done is overkill... They completely removed the threat of the Deep Wound status by Pausing the timer whenever mending or in the killers TR, while inexplicably leaving it with a 30 second timer. Sure this prevents the Legion from "moonwalking" to exploit the timer, but the timer is so lenient now that, Moonwalk or not, we still get more than enough time to get far enough away to mend and pause it anyway.
Thus their power now poses no threat, not only because they can't damage the timer any more, but also because it never ticks down enough to be a problem for us and ends up just wasting our time. Even worse, they dropped Legions movement/vaulting speed during frenzy, which was their primary strength against our best escape perks/tactics, and allowed them to do what they do best: inflict DW on multiple survivors.
IMO, They either need their old movement/vaulting speeds back, or the timer reduced to 10 seconds (5 with an additional Franks mix tape strike). That way we're either going to have to deal with multiple hits to the team more frequently (especially in large maps), or we'll have to immediately start mending the moment we're out of the TR if we don't want to go down. With these suggestions, Good survivors have decent enough escape perks to deal with the enhanced movement speed, and Moonwalking won't help the killer get us with the lowered timer.
Legion and their power used to be a threat, too much of a threat with some nasty exploitation that needed changes mind you, but at least it meant they were a challenge to face. Now however, they're just a mild and annoying inconvenience for us... I personally would like it better if one of my suggestions was implemented, because while they may not be as fun (read "Easy") to go up against, they would at least be able to provide a challenge at the Green-Purple ranks.
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Yeah. I think more than this is needed, and have lobbied ideas and made a huge thread about it over on Feedback. What you say is true though. They removed ALOT of the killing power out of Legion. They over did the nerfing in almost every way. 50% loss of FF when you m1. Can't even see blood in FF. Slowing the movement... Legion can be looped while in FF. Playing as Legion feels like... fighting against your own character at times. We even get DS'ed at the end of our power. Legion is what got me back into DBD (Which is why i am so passionate about getting them looked at) and I never used the exploit. Now i'm doomed cause of the crippling nature of FF as it is now, and my enjoyment of Legion's "Rush Down" playstyle.
When you switch from your main character you enjoy, to another Killer and feel like the guy in an anime taking off the weighted clothes to fight for real this one time... Something is very very wrong.
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He’s annoying
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pure ass to play I'd rather play bubba
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To play as, or against?
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Not sure that was the question?
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by underpowered i mean pure ass
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I know many people like their ability, but I personally don't and would rather they rework an entirely new power when they have the chance.
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Not my favorite killer, but I think s/he needs a few tweaks. A full rework might be a long way off and im not sure he needs that. Adjustments might be enough
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I wouldn't mind a rework that KEPT the Rushdown Style. That's why I love Legion and why they are unique.
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Literally has no power against good survivors that know his counterplay right now in my opinion.
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Legion is bad, he doesn't do anything.
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Maybe he needs to be able to injury people in FF, but has to work for it. Maybe the 3rd person hit in FF takes a hit instead of going into mending.
I'd like him/her to be stealthier, like the trailer!!!! But now end up like Myers, Pig or Ghostface somehow
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not* (not "now")
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They’d be great if their power actually helped rather then hindered.
Theyre boring to play and boring to vs, they need a big re work like Freddy.
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Glad this is showing Devs that people want Legion to be changed on both sides! Devs! Got alot of ideas in my thread in Feedback! XD
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I mained old Legion but stopped since the rework, hes underwhelming and (for my taste) not fun anymore, huge buffs needed or a rework, I personally preffer rework or in my words a downdate to the old Legion with some healthy buffs and changes to make it better for survivors experience and more counterplay.
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It will get better at some point!
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GreetingsUlven!
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-Boring to play as
-Boring to play against
-Underpowered as hell
-Power doesnt utilize their lore (4 killers) effectively, or at all even
There is not a single redeeming feature related to how Legion is now.
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Thank you! I think i've seen your name in my thread! If not, hope to see you there!
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Oh hiiii!
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Is there a way to get in contact with you in steam or other platforms? If I can ask you that^^
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Umm, there isn't a good way that isnt public to everyone on here... Hmm... can you post to my wall and delete it after I add you on steam?
Make SURE you can delete it first.
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Plz buff legion
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Legion is the best joke I've ever heard
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Rude! But whatever
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He needs some love!
His power is such a waste like it is now, I always liked this killer the most and the feeling he got, but his power seems almost entirely useless now. He urgently needs some buffs.
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They really need some help. Give them something so at least their power can down..
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Hi there! I got a 7 page thread in Feedback of Legion buff ideas if you want to look!
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I'm not addressing OP but legion, cause he is need of serious buffs
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Naw, it's fine. I was mostly playin. Legion is what got me back to the game after 2016-17 made me leave. I tend to be passionate about them, which is why the nerfs annoy me so much.
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Underpowered, they should put that add on where the terror radius affects the whole map in the base kit.. he needs the map pressure
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Can you send me a link to that?
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Totally underpowered.
As survivor I literally run into his knife (depends on sotuation) when he's in ff, since I know it won't really do anything and he will most likely leave me after hitting once. Mending is also insanely fast, nothing to be feared at all.
I used to play him a lot before the big nerf happened. Now I still like him, but he kinda lost his feel of a fast and stabbing killer. Frenzy is slow, vaults are insanely slow, can't see blood or scratchmarks and the fatigue feels like giving yourself a decisive strike. I mean he's literally the only killer where you rather want to get pallet stunned than having fatigue from ending your power. And you better not miss one hit.
It's not really much fun to play him anymore than it used to be. As survivor I never had a problem with old legion, in my opinion the only change that was needed is that the mending timer stopps in the TR. And maybe increase the required hits to down someone in ff. Everything else was just too much.
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I see you are a man of culture.
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