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After The DS Nerf...
Insta-heals will be next on the chopping block hopefully .
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@Hillbilly420 said:
I'm hoping they nerf both at the same time. Just remove Instant Heal. It doesn't need to be in the game.Agreed. It will be much better for the game if they were either removed or nerfed into oblivion.
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Along with insta downs!!!!???8
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No they are the complete opposite which is the point!Hillbilly420 said:@Paddy4583 said:
Along with insta downs!!!!???Because they're obviously the same thing...
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Oh poor sally, still complaining and asking for nerfs, so cute, don't worry, they'll come and maybe, just maybe your hurt killer soul will be pleased, don't lose hope
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@jiminie said:
Oh poor sally, still complaining and asking for nerfs, so cute, don't worry, they'll come and maybe, just maybe your hurt killer soul will be pleased, don't lose hopeSo you think i'm complaining huh? I'm only stating that after the ds nerfs happen, insta heals should be addressed next. Surely even you can see how powerful they are?
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I hope they nerf dstrike and insta heals in the upcoming chapter patch, really not fun to verse tryhard survivors
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@Sally55 said:
@jiminie said:
Oh poor sally, still complaining and asking for nerfs, so cute, don't worry, they'll come and maybe, just maybe your hurt killer soul will be pleased, don't lose hopeSo you think i'm complaining huh? I'm only stating that after the ds nerfs happen, insta heals should be addressed next. Surely even you can see how powerful they are?
They are indeed, but it's common sense to stop posting this kind of threads when you know it's goin' to happen because as you already know, there are survivors (including me) who are fed up with 'nerf this, nerf that' kind of threads, in the last days i've seen numerous threads trying to flame the survivors, not gonna list them, but you can look them up, there's plenty of' em
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Haha, good one Salty554
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I hope you don't use MYC, or NOED, or insta down hatchets, or insta down killers, or Tombstone or, or..switch said:I hope they nerf dstrike and insta heals in the upcoming chapter patch, really not fun to verse tryhard survivors
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What's gonna be your next nerf suggestion? Survivors shouldn't be able to run?4
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Get rid of Syptic Agent but leave Anti-hemorrhagic Syringe. I think an Ultra Rare for a double full insta-heal is fair.3
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@SovererignKing said:
Get rid of Syptic Agent but leave Anti-hemorrhagic Syringe. I think an Ultra Rare for a double full insta-heal is fair.I think it's a great idea. Maybe have it only heal up to 50% When used as well? And have it not use up the whole medkit after use like the current way bnp's don't use up the entire toolbox?
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Sally55 said:
@SovererignKing said:
Get rid of Syptic Agent but leave Anti-hemorrhagic Syringe. I think an Ultra Rare for a double full insta-heal is fair.I think it's a great idea. Maybe have it only heal up to 50% When used as well? And have it not use up the whole medkit after use like the current way bnp's don't use up the entire toolbox
No
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That’s for sure fairSovererignKing said:Get rid of Syptic Agent but leave Anti-hemorrhagic Syringe. I think an Ultra Rare for a double full insta-heal is fair.2 -
Instadown = An action that would put healthy survivor into dying state
Instaheal = An action that heals a survivor one or two health states.... as if you want nerf to it. Make it 2 kinda hard skill checks1 -
Get rid of all insta down add ons and it’s fair, you can’t call one cheap without the other, it’s just as BS as a Insta healSally55 said:@SovererignKing said:
Get rid of Syptic Agent but leave Anti-hemorrhagic Syringe. I think an Ultra Rare for a double full insta-heal is fair.I think it's a great idea. Maybe have it only heal up to 50% When used as well? And have it not use up the whole medkit after use like the current way bnp's don't use up the entire toolbox?
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@jiminie said:
@Sally55 said:
@jiminie said:
Oh poor sally, still complaining and asking for nerfs, so cute, don't worry, they'll come and maybe, just maybe your hurt killer soul will be pleased, don't lose hopeSo you think i'm complaining huh? I'm only stating that after the ds nerfs happen, insta heals should be addressed next. Surely even you can see how powerful they are?
They are indeed, but it's common sense to stop posting this kind of threads when you know it's goin' to happen because as you already know, there are survivors (including me) who are fed up with 'nerf this, nerf that' kind of threads, in the last days i've seen numerous threads trying to flame the survivors, not gonna list them, but you can look them up, there's plenty of' em
There's plenty of them for a reason tho. I don't know how long you've been around but survivors have gotten their way all this time and finally, killers are getting a few buffs. Survivors are the reason Freddy is in the dump because they were too lazy to adapt! Like they have always been.
Myers used to be able to stack the evil within gathering when there were multiple people in front of him and his stalking range was like 2x or 3x the current range. But adapting is very hard for survivors so I get it. Let killers adapt instead right?
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Pretty much get rid of all insta downs and insta heals.
Stupid how heavily a match can be dictated by add ons.
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@Might_Oakk said:
Pretty much get rid of all insta downs and insta heals.Stupid how heavily a match can be dictated by add ons.
Exactly
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insta heal is not that broken i think, for me the problem is self care, change self care so you can't heal you everytime you want and insta heal should not be a problem, give it a short animation to delay the heal a tiny bit and it should be ok, or you can't use it while running... something in that direction.
that's what i think.1 -
If instaheals are that big of an issue, why isn't Franklin's demise meta? Seems like most of you guys don't like ultra rare or rare addons even though killers have these type of addons to. Might as well just say that survivors shouldn't use the best addons at any rank.
Now if the issue is there are too many people using these addons, I'm fine with having a limit on how many items or addons a team of survivors can have in a match. Just have to balance on how big the limit should be.1 -
@Mr_Grumpy said:
insta heal is not that broken i think, for me the problem is self care, change self care so you can't heal you everytime you want and insta heal should not be a problem, give it a short animation to delay the heal a tiny bit and it should be ok, or you can't use it while running... something in that direction.
that's what i think.People using it to self heal speeds up the game a tiny bit and is no big deal imo.
To me the biggest problem with insta heal is it's extremely effective for swf groups.
Common scenario - chase survivor 45sec and down them. You see claudette sprinting at you with a flashlight. You're like sweeeeet I'll chase Claudette. Having 1 slugged, 1 chased, 1 coming to heal slug, max 1 doing gens, life is good. Then the slug gets syringed and you have lost all pressure and have 3 people doing gens while you are doing another 45sec chase.
Game literally changes from a win to a loss just like that.
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insta heals will be changed to have a BNP style skillcheck timer1
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@brokedownpalace said:
switch said:I hope they nerf dstrike and insta heals in the upcoming chapter patch, really not fun to verse tryhard survivors
I hope you don't use MYC, or NOED, or insta down hatchets, or insta down killers, or Tombstone or, or..
Actually i dont use very rare/ultra rare addons.
I play every killer besides huntress and wraith, you probably dont trust me but who gives a damn.
BTW all of the ultra rare addons and i mean all of them have some HUGE PENALTIES ( less hatchets, more time to stalk) really dont see the complaint against masive penalties on addons.
MYC is a decent perk worth on some weak killers, unfortunetly ruin and bbq are a lock in atm for killers, and NOED has a counter unlike Decisive strike and insta heals.0 -
@Might_Oakk said:
@Mr_Grumpy said:
insta heal is not that broken i think, for me the problem is self care, change self care so you can't heal you everytime you want and insta heal should not be a problem, give it a short animation to delay the heal a tiny bit and it should be ok, or you can't use it while running... something in that direction.
that's what i think.People using it to self heal speeds up the game a tiny bit and is no big deal imo.
To me the biggest problem with insta heal is it's extremely effective for swf groups.
Common scenario - chase survivor 45sec and down them. You see claudette sprinting at you with a flashlight. You're like sweeeeet I'll chase Claudette. Having 1 slugged, 1 chased, 1 coming to heal slug, max 1 doing gens, life is good. Then the slug gets syringed and you have lost all pressure and have 3 people doing gens while you are doing another 45sec chase.
Game literally changes from a win to a loss just like that.
good that a ultra rare mori compared to a syringe is much less op.
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@KingArthanal said:
@Might_Oakk said:
@Mr_Grumpy said:
insta heal is not that broken i think, for me the problem is self care, change self care so you can't heal you everytime you want and insta heal should not be a problem, give it a short animation to delay the heal a tiny bit and it should be ok, or you can't use it while running... something in that direction.
that's what i think.People using it to self heal speeds up the game a tiny bit and is no big deal imo.
To me the biggest problem with insta heal is it's extremely effective for swf groups.
Common scenario - chase survivor 45sec and down them. You see claudette sprinting at you with a flashlight. You're like sweeeeet I'll chase Claudette. Having 1 slugged, 1 chased, 1 coming to heal slug, max 1 doing gens, life is good. Then the slug gets syringed and you have lost all pressure and have 3 people doing gens while you are doing another 45sec chase.
Game literally changes from a win to a loss just like that.
good that a ultra rare mori compared to a syringe is much less op.
People are just so dumb on this forum...
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At first use 50% of healing is complete instantly hit difficult skill check to complete 1 health state
For ultra samething only 2 skill checks to complete 2health states miss one lose addon keep medkit
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