The Legion Changes Suggestion v3.0.0

I think DWs should stay in the terror radius, if you don't want the moonwalking Legion back. And you want to make their old Frank's Mix Tape base? I don't think this is a good way to go. He should be 15 % faster while in Feral Frenzy imo.

Self mending still should be a thing tbh, it will be really frustrating to not find a teammate and die because you couldn't do anything to stop the timer.

11 seconds is too much, make it 9 seconds maybe.

To compensate for the increased movement speed.

The only changes I really like are increasing the sprint speed, not losing the Frenzy if you miss a single attack, and hitting a survivor with a non-Frenzy basic attack doesn't deplete the power gauge.

But I have issues with the rest of your proposed changes:

-The devs made it clear with Legion's rework that they don't want Legion to hit survivors more than once with Frenzy. Pre-rework Legion was considered very unfun to play against because his standard MO was to hit a survivor repeatedly with Deep Wounds until the timer hit zero and they went down. Because he was so fast and able to bypass most of the survivors' escape tools, he had very little counterplay. They want him to apply deep wounds to multiple survivors at once, not just tunnel a single survivor to death. So I doubt BHVR will ever approve of any changes that bring back Legion's old playstyle.

-Making Mending take longer feels unnecessary, and adding a skillcheck just makes Legion more annoying to play against, without actually increasing his overall power.

-Making the bleed-out timer shorter feels unnecessary. It's rare for the bleed-out timer to actually come into play against good survivors, so this just feels like another way to make Legion more annoying, but not more powerful.

Also, a common tactic with pre-rework Legion was to spam lunge attacks over and over, since that was often faster than running due to missed attacks having no cooldown. So I think there should be a long enough cooldown that Legion can't just spam lunges while in Frenzy. But I do like the idea of removing the harsh penalty for missing a single attack in FF.

@DeathEscape Ah, it's 15 seconds according to the wiki. I mistakenly thought you were making it take more time, not less.

I think the mend timer is fine as it is. It's long enough to be an inconvenience for the survivors, but short enough that the survivors will still have opportunities to work on objectives.

Legion's biggest strengths in his current state are his ability to waste the survivors' time, his ability to score first hits easily, and his ability to injure multiple survivors in quick succession. So I think most of his changes should be focused around those aspects of his kit.

Obviously wont know until playing, but a .2 increase during frenzy and some better add ons really isnt going to suddenly make them fun. Its slightly better but addresses none of the core issues.

I don't think BHVR wants legion to be viable based on these changes. You're right, during the time you run and find another survivor they will already be mended, especially since it doesn't decrease while they are in the terror radius, so by the time you run away and the terror radius is gone, boom 12 second pass and they are already mended. Then they are FORCING us to use that stupid buttons for add ons because they are trash right now. I see what they want, they want you to use the buttons instead of the perks to apply the mangle, but lets time this out...

Legion hits you in frenzy...okay, legion goes to find another survivor to hit...they chase probably a little bit, eventually get hit, first survivor is mended and already has 20 seconds of mangled down times that by 3 for the other suriviors and bam mangled is over by the time you hit the last survivor (assuming normal gameplay perhaps) They will either, A, do a gen while ur running to others and then heal when the mangled is down...or if they're in a group, just heal each other in the 60 second window anyway....these changes are so useless....And it just destroys what legion is supposed to even do. They lowered the mend time too PLUS took away the basic attack debuff....i just don't understand...someone said it might be because of oni perks, but based off their perk making abilties with the last 2 killers, i have almost no hope that these perks comign will suddenly be to op