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Why do killers get punished when survivors dc.
Now, it's a mini rant / venting i wanna have here, Why is it that when you play as a killer, and doing your objective, whenever a survivor dcs, it hardcore punishes you for 0 Reason, whatsoever.. So you only have 3 survivors left and you never hooked that guy who dced, weather it be bs hitbox or first one down, he just dcs and screws you over from even pipping,
TL:DR are we gunna get a fix to this issue soon enough?
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Are they going to fix how badly it screws the rest of the survivors? I doubt it. It's a ######### situation. But it is what it is.
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Great situation to make new friends with the remaining survivors
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Pretty sure everyone remaining in the game gets punished after a DC.
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I mean the 640 points for brutality ain't enough, it screws you outta alot of points for hooking and hitting him etc.. Edit:
I mean when you also screw over the teammates, they don't get any compensation points for it either, i'm hoping they'll fix it so both sides are given equal share...or h/e people want it to be
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Because the killer was playing in an unfun manner to which the survivor's only option was to leave the match in distress.
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How does being the first one down result in being unfun? it could be versing a bing bong (Bless his bell...)
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Here's the problem:
Survivors lose out on teamwork, but can still grind out a lotta BPs.
Killer loses out on Hunter BP, Sacrifice BP, a good amount of Brutality and Deviousness too depending on the Killer.
That's not mentioning the fact that often times, if one survivor DCs, multiple survivors will start DCing.
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"Well, Obviously you're playing as a killer that's OP, or using tactics/builds that makes the game un-fun for everyone else, so you should get punished for being toxic and don't deserve to get any points, or rank up." - Reddit user/troll
This is what someone argued against me on reddit in support of all survivors right to DC without consequences during the height of the DC epidemic last May. Honestly, the entitlement and Ego of some people who play this game are just sickening, and I can see them using this same excuse in answer to your question.
The devs stated at one point that once the Dedicated servers are officially live and out of the testing phase, they'll have better tools to punish habitual DC'ers, and have even said they have plans to leave a DC'ing Survivors character in game as an empty "husk" that the killer and other survivors can interact with and still make points from. Until then, Killers are at the mercy of the survivors "Right to DC" and are going to get punished for it every time. The Dedicated Servers going Live officially and the Disciplinary Committee can't come soon enough IMO.
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DC'ing screws over everyone.
Killers don't need to feel like victims.
Survivor DC'ing screws Survivors over harder than it screws killers.
And killers DC'ing also screws survivors.
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Do you even play survivor? 3v1 as survivor is no picnic and you'll be lucky if you can even make 10k BP when someone DCs at the start of the match.
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Never said it was a picnic. Just saying that there's still the potential.
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For me a survivor who dc punish more the survivor who remain than the killer tbh cuz you know it’s easier for the killer when there is 3 man or less than all 4. And atm killer receive points for dc but what’s up for survivor side ?
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The issue being, though its not wide spread...is dc squads.
I've ran into a few a couple of times. All four simply DC regardless of killer, add ons or map. No reason other than to force the killer to depip. Then when you notice all four are on each others friends list, yea...
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Punished? The match gets handed to you on a silver platter whenever someone ragequits especially at the beginning. You might loose some sacrifice points, but unless you stomp the remaining survivors you should be able to compensate easily.
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It doesn't punish the killer as much as survivor. If the killer disconnects in a certain way the survivors lose all the points earned in that game. At least if a survivor disconnects:
- Easier game for the killer
- Gets points after the game
- Keeps their points, unlike if a killer disconnects.
It can punish the killer depending if they disconnect to give another the hatch but that doesn't happen too often.
Disconnecting is a big issue which they will hopefully fix once dedicated servers are released.
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I don't like to be repeatedly slugged. Just throw me on a hook already.
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"damn I got found first, go down in 10 sec, let me dc"
its not my fault, killer must be playing in an unfun manner 😡
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You obviously don't know what you're saying.
When survivor dc, no matter how many times you hook survivor, you can't pip as killer.
but for survivors, provided you're not a potato and loop the killer for 1min+ in total, do some gens and save 2people, that's a pip already.
So it is a 0 pip / depip VS a chance to pip
and you say "it doesn't punish the killer as much as suvivor", play more games before you say that please.
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You want to talk potential?
A killer will potentially make at least twice as much BP as any of the three survivors left in the game, 99 times out of 100.
How's that for potential?
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You want to talk about BP?
Survivor doesn't lose add-ons item if they escaped, while killers lose everything when when they win, 100times out of 100times
Also the BP it takes to invest killers is enormous, while survivors are just skins.
How's that for BP?
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What about it? RezBlaze is the one who brought up the BP.
Your grinding problems are irrelevant to this discussion. That's a differfent issue, one we can discuss at your leisure. Here I'm refuting this statement:
Here's the problem: Survivors lose out on teamwork, but can still grind out a lotta BPs. Killer loses out on Hunter BP, Sacrifice BP, a good amount of Brutality and Deviousness too depending on the Killer. That's not mentioning the fact that often times, if one survivor DCs, multiple survivors will start DCing.
Because it is simply not true and Survivors are punished a lot more in every way, including BP-wise, when a survivor DC's.
If you're butthurt over how much BP you need to grind, we can talk about that. But it has nothing to do with this point I'm discussing.
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What?
Distribution of bloodpoints and the relative amount you receive isn't relevant to the point?
I'm just quitting this discussion at this point.
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I know that the devs are/were gonna add a "Husk" that gives bloodpoints in the same manner as a survivor, but IDK where that idea went.
But it's not even DC's. Trapper gets punished for using his traps effectively for some unknown reason. There are a few killers who use their power effectively and are punished for it, and it's pretty dumb.
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Obviously that is not always the case. More accurate is the fact that trolls can't stand being defeated by a great killer...their ego's too big.
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To be fair, killers do receive a "quitter bonus" points after the round, so we're not entirely punished.
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And why do I get punished when I d/c after hits that didn't connect? I shouldn't depip when game doesn't work as intended.
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The point is you're not screwed over. "Relative?" Killers will still about twice the BP of the remaining survivors in a DC match.
You're just doing the typical victim killer melodrama.
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You learn to deal with. Online games are like that. Sometimes the ping doesn't work in your favor. If you can't accept that don't play online.
You seriously don't have a leg to stand on here if you blatantly admit to DC'ing.
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They don't. It just doesn't reward you that much.
You lose nothing when a Survivor DC's. A game where all 4 Survivors DC in the first second doesn't instantly drain your BP or anything.
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That is the only game that has such terrible hitreg. The smallest game of them all. What about bugs when I can't get healed? Dead head not working? Iron Will getting glitched? I can mention more. It's a shitshow lmao. I really don't mind getting banned because I'm used to skill not luck based games.
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Haha Really xD
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I think the devs need to sit back and ask themselves a very important question now that they have dedicated servers: Do we want to sit here and justify people disconnecting all the time and say that we can't implement it because it might have been a loadscreen bug, or a crash, or their internet went out, or a this or a that? Or do we want to say that we have to do something about it, regardless.
The fact you can sit here and read a bunch of people doing just that, justifying disconnecting for lag or for this or for that, proves that people think it's okay because there is no punishment - and they believe there shouldn't be. They'll find any reason they can think of other than something that was even out of their control to justify them leaving the game.
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The lag is normal. All online games have it to an extend. Though admittedly DBD has it worse off than most.
Nobody is condoning any of the other bugs though.
Like I said... if you don't like it, stop playing. We're all waiting for BHVR to get their act together and fix it. But we've weighed our options. We like the game enough to keep playing.
If you don't like the game because you want a "skill" game then stop playing.
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...What?
Survivors lose the possibility to win the match. Unless the killer is actually new to the game, you won't win a 3v1 with 5 gens left. And you won't be able to 'grind' points at all, because you will be under constant pressure from being in that 3v1.
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I know this game pretty well mate. I've played this game for over 2 years at red ranks so I know exactly what I'm saying.
Your trying to say a disconnect doesn't make much of a difference to a survivor team but your wrong. At any rank only having 3 survivors is an easy win for the killer, unless the play bad. I've had games where a survivor has disconnected and escaped, but that's because the killer was useless and we played really well. On the other hand I've had games where a survivor disconnected and the killer killed us because he was decent.
The funny part is you literally don't acknowledge any of my points. If a survivor disconnects at the beginning of the game your really trying to tell me that punishes the killer more than the other survivors?
Ok so you don't pip as killer, big whoop. As survivor I don't really care if I pip or not, same as killer. I'll still make it to rank 1 in a week so I don't care if I get a few black pips in that time.
If I created a mini rant discussion for everytime a survivor has disconnected and I've black piped because of this then I'd have over 100 discussions.
I stand by what I said, survivors are punished more than killer when a survivor disconnects. You should think more before you speak lad.
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Jeez i leave the discussing for one day and come back to everyone trash talking eachother bout dcs, now let me sum it up with what i ment:
As a killer with emblems, it's harder to even pip so to say when it comes down to red ranks in terms of survivors dcing, I.E you hooked everyone 3 times, But the dced, but since the guy dced, you're not even gunna get any emblem score at all. Even though you hooked everyone else 3 times.. but you could still get better scoring with the other emblems of course but, it would still barely blackpip you or even derank you because of One dc, that changes how it would affect you ranking up (Not that rank matters but still) And sure, Survivors get punished harder for it...But most likely won't depip because of it, whereas killer..he would depip / blackpip reguardless of what happened,
TL:DR Survivors do need to compensate for when others dc, but they needa somehow fix it so it can favor both sides, not just "Oh...we're screwed"
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Sucks on both sides.
Survivors lose everything when killer "unplugs"
Killer loses mostly everything when survivors DC.
All BHVR has to do is reverse engineer the DNA mutation that has these kiddies feeling the need to DC and re-inject the proper DNA back into them so that they may evolve into functioning adults later in life.
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exactly what i was gonna say when i read post. it's very bad for both killers and survivors.
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yes in most cases but sometimes survivors do it for know reason, one after the other.
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i have seen it where killers still get more bp than survivors, some cases can hurt the survivors more.
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i went through a phase where i always got found first, hours of play a day for months. never changed game play before or after, yes it was annoying but i never dc.
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when a survivor dc in the beginning, then once a killer gets somebody else on hook, more than likely killer will get the upper hand.
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I just stop playing if its a 3v1, its not fun for anyone and its not really fun just to steamroll 3 survivors who won't be able to do gens.
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Because without dedicated servers they have no way to effectively grant the killer the full bonus effects of a survivor disconnecting.
Wait...
I don't really care about pips in a game where I end up at red ranks pretty quickly anyway, so it makes no difference to me other than the fact I don't get a lot of BP. But then neither will the survivors I suppose.
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