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This is the perfect NON-event
3k extra BP for hooking a survivor on a special hook with pumpkins.
An offering that's required to do more than one.
Holiday event skins that won't be able to be earned until weeks after the holiday is over.
A challenge system that forces players to play roles or use tactics or perks that they may not want to.
Anyone else disappointed by the current chain of decisions leading up to the version of the game we have now?
I know people didn't like the juicy plants, but instead of removing the event entirely couldn't it have been adjusted using the feedback and events from last year?
Adjust the squishy noises.
Reward the vials gained during the match only if the survivor escapes or dies on their 2nd or 3rd hook to lessen rage-quits.
Allow both sides to contribute to the pool of event currency to avoid the lobby problem from last year.
Then take the vials out of the battlepass to be earned in the event to make it worthwhile and special.
How hard would that have been?
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If you're hoping feedback will be used don't get your hopes up.
We have all the evidence with the recent Nurse changes. SO MUCH DETAILED FEEDBACK, and yet literally nothing changed except making it WORSE.
Don't get your hopes up.
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I care about the Event as much as the Devs care about my feedback.
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So you wanted challenges that allowed you to play as you always played with the same loadout?
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I agree the petal system is kinda meh. You're essentially relying on the other survivors playing them too to even get a decent bonus. And killers are really screwed over since they're have to down a survivor near one of the blighted hooks to even get a look at the bonus bp. The challenges need some balancing. I was assuming masters were the level 4 challenges, but they're already on level 1 and I've already heard about people just DC'ing if they don't get their progress on the single trials ones. I'm questioning if it's even worth going for the master ones anymore because I did want to see all the lore, but it's feeling like that lore isn't coming for me anytime soon
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Probably the most underrated comment in 2019
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It's not that anything you suggested is "hard," it's that isn't the way they want to do it. They want the rift and the event cosmetics very connected so you spend more time on the rift. You'll be unlocking more tiers to get more cosmetics and by the time you're done you're more likely to say "Well, I might as well buy the premium pass, look at all this stuff I get immediately!"
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Surprised that every hook and gen weren't Halloween and petals gave a 3x bonus to bp
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Dude lol this would have been perfect! Make every hook an event hook and just use an offering to get the extra BP and of course up it to 5K.
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They had a problem with this last year or 2 years ago with the lunar gens and just changed it so every gen and hook got changed why not with this event
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@SpaceCoconut Yeah, I saw all that writing on the wall when they first talked about how the event was going to be done.
So, I've been playing the Dying Light Halloween stuff, Halloween Terror in Overwatch for the Sombra Demon Hunter skin this week (got the Baptiste skin from week two and Junkrat from week 1), and have simply been enjoying myself in State of Decay 2 which I just bought on its 50% off sale, and the Batman Arkham games that Epic gave away for free last month.
In other words, games that are not DbD.
I've seen your posts here and watched your videos since early September (when I first visited your channel). You are obviously unhappy with BHVR and the state of DbD. And I don't blame you. I agree with you. But have you considered just moving on? Or is your income, unfortunately, too married to this game?
And I mean none of that in a negative way. I've moved on, but I also made a conscious choice to never become a content creator for this game because I recognized the issues with BHVR's game design philosophy a couple years ago.
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My wife has said the same thing. It's more like I'm very passionate about this game and frustrated that the devs make questionable decisions in regards to balance. I mean, designing killers to be deliberately weak against stronger survivors doesn't sound like a good balance decision to me.
Prioritizing a battle pass instead of changing up the store to make that income and then refocusing the balance team on the long standing core issues of the game would sound like an investment in bolstering the playerbase through better gameplay rather than taking advantage of the playerbase they have with their predatory battlepass.
Honestly, I've been playing a bit of Destiny 2 and Outer Worlds recently, but it's easier to create videos with dead by daylight matches with the limited time I have available. I'd have to spend several hours playing the other games in hopes of finding interesting footage or going through questlines to highlight specific weapons or storylines.
It's honestly just more convenient to do a match or two and use that as background footage or to highlight a specific problem... which also says a lot about a problem if you only need one match to highlight it and can get that single match in one try.
I have a full time job so I don't make anything from my videos. Maybe someday if I find the right style or if people actively look for dbd discussion videos, but for now I'm just a casual player who doesn't just like dead by daylight...
And the devs consistently disappoint.
If I'm being honest, I'm just waiting for Cyberpunk 2077 and Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen at this point. I'm picky about what I spend my time on.
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Even worse I've had killers camp the event gens to prevent them from getting done, and so far played 3 games, 2 moris.
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Good luck "Killing all 4 survivors by your hand in same trial" without anyone DC
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Truth.
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Some of these challenges are just absolutely ridiculous. They should know at this point that some survivors will DC out of spite to deny someone their reward.
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I personally enjoy having goals other than the daily challenges.
I have no intention of purchasing the pass, but I can still earn bp and some cosmetics. I can try things I usually do not do. I am already thinking of how to sacrifice people in EGC and what perks I will bring to get it done.
It is obvious they put a lot of work into this, and I am enjoying it. The game needed something new.
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I spent a match running circles on Yamaoka Estate to disturb 25 crows along the outer edge of the map.
Why would there be crows within the map? It would make too much sense.
Definitely a challenge that improved the quality of the match for everyone...
How hard is it to design challenges that improve a match?
Also, forcing players to play other roles to complete it is going to lead people like me to basically ruin matches for others because honestly, I'll only be interested in completing the survivor challenges since I really dislike playing survivor.
gaaahhh there's so much wrong with this, but so many blind followers don't even see it and the devs are perfectly happy paying attention to them and ignoring everyone else.
:/
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An easy fix would be to just make it so DCs count toward it. That'd get rid of that tactic real quick.
But I get your point. Some of them are ridiculous.
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Is that a temporary buff to Spies I hear?
Yeah, sounds like it's a joke...
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I play both sides so I am not too bothered by it, but I can already tell Survivor challenges will be 100x easier than killer challenges if they amp up the difficulty.
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Yeah I agree, they tied this event far too much into the archives and the rift and there's very little that actually feels like an event on its own.
It's sad how little there actually is in the rift that wouldn't have been regular content last year anyway.
They did not listen to YOUR feedback, that doesn't mean they didn't listen to other peoples' feedback that like the Nurse changes.
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Holiday event skins that won't be able to be earned until weeks after the holiday is over.
Unless you open up your wallet.
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In which case they were earnt weeks BEFORE the holiday.
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Oh right, they've been available for a few weeks already.
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Dc’s count as kills, someone dced when I was doing it.
They actually do count
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Really? Then i just need to bring out the most unfun killer to make all survivors DC to complete the challenge (just a joke)
I think that way is easier than mori all 4 survivors
Btw does slugging count?
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by any means
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Some of u cry too much. The changes are great
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Giving these devs feedback is not gonna change anything. We did for the Legion, Freddy and Nurse changes, but instead they removed everything fun about those killers
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Other non horror games that I've played have done Halloween events way better than this game. Which is pretty sad.
I was so angry about the delay and then so excited when it finally came out but now... I kinda don't want to play anymore.
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My real issue is that I have to play a lot of killer to do all the killer challenges. But at 10 minutes wait time just to get a lobby, that ain't happening.
The challenges aren't particularly hard, but the 10 minute wait is. Before I sometimes would line up for killer just to do some killer dailies, if like I was making a cup of coffee or a sandwich and I could leave it queing while I was preparing a snack. But to complete all the killer challenges I probably need to play around 20 killer matches at least. That's 200 minutes of my day wasted. That's 13% of my day gone twiddling my thumbs. Not happening.
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Even though it is disappointing for most I actually can’t wait to see the lore and to the video clips :)
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Really? I haven't played it yet since I've been busy, but I should be able to soon. Good to know. : )
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Why should they hear senseless ranting?
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The stupidest part about it in my opinion is locking the lore behind the challenges. Not speaking of the easy ones but the later ones (maybe harder for most of the people).
Those who are interested in it will have a hard time.
Also just doing the challenge stuff then getting killed when you are not interested in ranks is the most efficient way of doing the challenges. gg
People played like potatos before but now it got even worse!
EDIT: Let's not forget that we don't have all the meta perks on all characters unlocked because of the stupid grind because we didn't played the game only for the last three years or so. Makes higher ranks fun to play at.
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Yep, I mori’d one, slugged two and one dced.
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I actually like doing the plants last year, made games last longer and killer got confused looking from gens to plants trying to find my ninja meg build. It was great fun
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Absolutely not disappointed.
I actually liked the whole "Interact with squishy plant" thing, but this works way better.
I don't mind one bit that they take the more safe route.
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nice..
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What holiday event skins? I'm confused, is he talking about the halloween skins?
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They should've brought back the event from last year. I liked the Pustula Plants and getting the nectar from them.
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Yes.
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@SpaceCoconut You mentioned the Battlepass again. Interesting thought about that. At the Steam forums and Reddit for Deathgarden, when folks talk about the game needing to go F2P to get players into it since they're averaging 50 or so peak a day, I see people replying with how the Deathgarden Devs have come out and stated that F2P and a cash shop are not necessary, because profits from Dead by Daylight are funding Deathgarden and keeping it afloat right now.
So, we have all the issues here, and now a new form of monetization, and the Deathgarden Devs come out and openly state that DbD is funding their development?
I don't follow Deathgarden enough to have seen such a Dev claim with my own eyes, but it might be worth you researching for a video.
Yes, companies the size of BHVR (and bigger) do such a thing all the time. But given all the lingering and new issues in DbD, and the questionable move to put a Battlepass into it to monetize it further, it does paint this whole thing in a bad light to me when the Deathgarden Devs allegedly come out and claim that a game with a 50 peak player daily base is being funded with profits from this game, in the condition this game is in.
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I think they just want to break you out of your ritual. If you keep playing the game the same over and over you you're going to get sick of it. They are nudging you out of your comfort zone to try new things, things you would never do. You'd be surprised what you'll discover.
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I've played this game since 2016. I simply don't like being told what to do in a game I purchased for my own enjoyment. Revoking player agency never does well unless the game is designed that way. If I find a way I enjoy playing for that period of time, why force me to play in a way I simply don't want to in order to complete an addition to the game?
Very interesting, can you message me some links to the quotes?
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Personally I'm like doing the sacrifice at the end game its making me play scummy and my piggy is not about that life plus I'm getting people just unable to complete gens?! Wheres the gen rush when I want it I'm one confused piggy
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He did mentioned it in a video already. How they failed on the first iteration and created a new game while beeing funded by DbD.
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Uh this is a big deal, and really ######### upsetting
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Have you taken into consideration that the devs have been working on other larger things? Which may have prevented them from going all out on the event. Regardless if you like it or not the main focus have been dedicated servers, the archive and nurse changes.
On top of that I think the devs did take feedback into consideration from players. Majority of the players say they do events just for blood points . Now you have an offering that allowed you to get additional blood points when you complete the designated gen or hooks.
I personally enjoy that the event is tied with the archive. I have 70 days to get the event items, compared to 10days.
Only thing that lacks in the game is the maps decorations.
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