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Genrush & Toxic Play Is Ruining The Game
Seriously. I can't play fun Killers anymore, because they are too slow or lack map pressure. Or crybaby Survivors wuss out.
Trapper? Too much time spent placing traps. ...Which have 2 perks that counter them AND maps can track them. (Where is this guys tweaks, damnit?)
Wraith? Takes too long to decloak. Suffers from 'Old Freddy Syndrome' where the power allows Survivors to run away before he can actually attack. Genrush is his counter.
Myers? I get people who wuss out if I T3 them. I tried Mirror Myers, but got a huge, open map with about 5000 pallets in a 3 inch area. I could not catch anyone before they found a new pallet.
Doctor? Players disconnect the first time their character screams.
Huntress? We all know her hatchets are broken. I've seen hatchets miss me and still hit, and I've seen hatches go through players and miss. Bring iri & hit 2 people; people will DC.
Pig? Walks too slow when crouched, which is the only way to sneak up on people. Can't be slow when the genrus meta is 3 minute matches. Beartraps are sadly limited, and the Box is always the right box. IE: Trap someone twice? They don't need to look again; the box was set to them at the start of the match & does not change. Also, she has 0 endgame power. Once the gates are powered, her RBT are useless trash.
(They SHOULD auto arm in the endgame, but heaven forbid Survivors have something work against them! They might get mad! 🙄)
Freddy? Yeah, he's fun, but he lacks real map pressure. Sure, he can teleport, but it takes 3 years so Survivors just walk away. Not run; walk. If you bring in ANY of the game-slowing addons, people DC.
You basically HAVE to be Spirit, Nurse (less so since her skill ceiling dropped so hard, the house caved in), Billy, or Bubba.
And yeah; there's other Killers, but they are not fun or powerful; They are jokes that you play to let the Survivors win easier.
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When I play survivor and gens are being rushed the fun begins when you are trying to get everyone out and escape together, specially when the killer has noed, that makes the match more interesting and exciting than just pressing m1 and doing skill checks.
When I play killer and I'm being rushed it's just boring and frustrating, unless I have noed.
I had a recent match playing as trapper; all gens popped in about 6 minutes, but once noed activated I had one hooked, put two on the dying state and the last one stepped on a trap. Funny as hell. Look, I understand noed can be frustrating if you are trying to get out of there as fast as you can, but it's also frustrating how fast gens can pop. I didn't even commit to chaces, in fact I only chased three survivors through the whole game and when I realized I was screwed I just put a few traps in hopes they would fall for them and luckily they did.
Anyway, gen speed is now one of the main reasons why I always use noed or pgtw and bring a mori everytime I can, the other reason is ruin being very unreliable.
Now, seriously, something needs to be done about gen speed.
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You can't play unfun killers either, because bad Survivors scream to the high heavens until those Killers are "looked at" and "slightly tweaked."
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So much this. Would love to play pumpkin nurse tonight but I'm now genrushed by SWF because I can't use my power half the match.
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Funny, I'm able to play all killers perfectly fine, seems like a you problem bud.
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Ahh, the ol' 'I'm fine, so who cares about anyone else?' comments.
Since you 2 are fine, clearly no fixing needs be done. People just need to get on your level. Damn!
Stop all discussion on balance! These two people are fine playing the game! 20/10! Perfectly fine for these two people! Absolutely no one else matters!
I mean, this is the balance every PvP game strives for; being fine for these two people. BHVR has done it! Congrats, BHVR!
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Yeah it’s a you problem, bud. You can’t chase four survivors at the same time and hook them three times each in six minutes? Git gud.
/s
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I mean you can go to their post history and see they're simply survivor mains who want to pretend to act like killers on a forum in an attempt to make it seem like killers are here saying "Everything is fine" for any and every complaint.
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The problem lies with the devs themselves for not balancing the length of the game and how quickly gens currently go, which is amplified if the killer doesn't have Ruin. Ruin is a problem. The time it takes for gens to be completed if you go hard on them is a problem. The fact that the vast majority of killers, regardless of how well they play, cannot play aggressively in the sense of "Hook this person, chase another" mentality that top tier killers have. If you do, you will lose every single time. So you have to proxy a hook, or use them as bait. You can't go off on a hunt with BBQ, or do a lot of things. You can if you want to just have fun on a killer you enjoy, but you won't win or anything.
What's amazing to me is they've never even acknowledged that it's a problem.
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My theory is that DBD grew too fast.
The team tries, that much is clear, but it's also clear that it grew too popular, too fast.
Now, they need to add a new killer, and a new chapter, and a new survivor, and the perks need to be workable (and that's 3 or 6 perks, sometimes more, per DLC) and they need to ride the momentum, so they can't balance properly. And needing to crank out more and more and more means they can't polish it as much.
I don't want to see DBD fail. That would mean people's jobs. No way I want that. But I do wish another game would come along. Maybe another game in the genre would take some of the pressure off BHVR. Or maybe it'd allow them to announce Dead By Daylight 2; on a new engine and more polished than DBD.
I also wish someone would buy the Planetside IP. :P DBD and PS2 are 2 games that are VERY niche.
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I don't think they were saying that alot of killers don't need attention. They're saying you might just not have the skill to play those killers at the higher ranks. I don't say that to be mean. I'm a terrible killer. I agree with you that lower tier killers need help. I just don't think they're as unplayable as you make them out to be.
As a side note, Pigs traps should definitely not auto arm for egc. The timers too short for that to be remotely fair.
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Fair enough, and the EGC timer can slow while the trap is on the Survivor's head, like when a Survivor is downed/hooked.
The Pig needs SOMETHING. She has 0 end game power as she is and very weak map pressure because her traps are niche and limited.
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So what you’re saying is that because you’re not winning it’s not fun?
If you wanna talk about the core of the problem, go for it. I can tell you it’s not Mirror Myers in an open Map. There is a reason people specifically bring a map offering equipped when they play like this.
As someone who mains Myers, it really baffles me that you would even complain about killers being so slow but yet pick the slowest Michael build as evidence to your complaint.
Would be the same thing as survivors complaining that killers bring perks that slow down the game but have perks like Quick and Quiet and Urban Evasion because they want to remain immersed instead of attempting a gen or bringing tools that will help them.
If you want to be spoon fed kills this is not how the game works.
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Agreed. She's my main. So I'm biased in her favor.
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I play both sides 50/50. also I main Myers mainly when I do play killer. Trapper is a good third after clown, also plague. .. .. Wait and Doctor. and Freddy. I don't see these issues at red ranks or purple, are you in greens?
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