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Ok BHVR.
Can't wait to do these ones against competent killers.
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they really need to remove the in a single trial one this one seems like you can do it over multiple games
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What do you expect, free stuff?
They don't want you to finish the battle pass
They don't want you to get 30 vials for hween cosmetics
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Pretty much half of the Survivor challenges for chapter 4 are nearly impossible to do. Some of the killer ones are BS too.
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First and Second is perfectly fine.Unless the first challenge means unhook 3 survivors at the same match then that's impossible.
Third one is pretty BS. You have to actively be toxic and getting a flashlight save is very, very rare and your best bet is bullying noob killers
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Yeah a lot of the "leaked" challenges are total garbage.
Most of them are either heavily RNG-based or something you will never be able to pull off against competent opponents, or both.
They better change them.
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Yes, the first one does mean in a single match. "Complete this challenge in a single trial".
As for the second one, "Completley Repair 4 generators with Dark Sense in a single trial" is basically impossible unless the other Survivors are doing nothing for the whole match.
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Eh. They aren’t that bad IMO.
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Every challenge on this post all has to be done in the same trial.
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If you think fully repairing 4 gens in a single game isn't that bad then idk what to tell ya lol.
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Step 1 Team up in a SWF match.
Step 2 Tell them what you plan on doing.
Step 3 repair 4 gens and leave them at 99%.
Step 4 tap each one and you got your 4.
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@Johnny_XMan I assume "completely repair" means completely repair and not top off.
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I think you missed the part where it says "completely." If you are going stand up for this absurdity, at least read through it.
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Oh then that's completely junk.
Seems like the Rift would just inspires toxic behavior more and more. We're already seeing blatant hook farming with just the early stage.
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@ProfessorDunwich Oh I’m sorry that I am human capable of making mistakes.
Then don’t 99% and just have your team work with you and do them one by one.
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Pretty much. Every tier you don't complete and ever vial you miss out on is the potential for you to spend money. Maybe you will accept you won't get it, but plenty of others will shell out of the complete the set. That is the point of battle passes, they want you to pay for the tiers.
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It's absolutely absurd anyone would try to justify this. One person doing gens while everyone else does nothing but tries to get the killer's attention. And if you are solo? The challenge is quite literally impossible.
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That's no excuse to lock LORE behind these ridiculous challenges. I can understand if they don't want casuals to complete the Rift but Lore should be something they should be able to unlock without too much hassle.
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If anything its more reasonable to tie the lore to than the rift imo...
The challenges/lore stay forever the rift doesn't. We could try these challenges for years if we want but forcing it into 70 days is the problem.
(Way less than 70 for the hard ones)
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@ProfessorDunwich I mean, I’ve been able to complete 3 gens before without a problem. This was when I wasn’t trying to be coordinated with my teammates. So for me while it is challenging it’s not impossible.
Especially when you got killers camping nowadays. The challenge is really dependent on who the killer is and how much they proxy gens.
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I predict many people will derank just to pull these challenges off and I don’t blame them to be honest. I don’t think the devs thought these challenges through as much.
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I wonder who design these challenges
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People who don't play the game. AKA The Devs.
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You obviously don't play this game.
When have you ever completed 4 gens in a single game, where the killer wasn't farming with you and everyone else was dead (everyone else has to be dead or complicit because you are competing with them for the gens)? This sort of thing does not happen in a normal game. Period.
Unhooking thrice during EGC is also impossible without the killer complicit and farming.
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This is called BaLaNcEd gameplay.
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These are NOT meant to be challenges you can get if you try really hard for one game to get them. They are MEANT to take awhile, and they should, it is the fourth tier of the Time after all. These are *hard*, as they *should be*. For too long all challenges have just been considered easy things that pretty much happen anyways during a game passively. These are harder and actually have to be focused on, which is a welcome change for the last time, which I will remind you, you have infinite time to complete.
You don't need to finish every challenge to get to the end of the Rift. Making challenges hard =/= they want you to pay.
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Something being hard doesn't mean it suddenly isn't going to be consumer friendly. As a whole, the Archives still are casual friendly. Almost all of the challenges you can do passively through games with little or no thought put into them (albeit it will take a few games to do) and you can get all the way to the end of the rift as well.
If you want to complete every challenge, you are NOT playing casually. You are no longer in the same boat, and challenges SHOULD be harder.
They were not lying, I would still say what they said is true.
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You have absolutely no way of knowing what you are claiming to. The rift has been open for one full day (out of 70) and you are already claiming it would take the same time as a full time job.
Additionally, you are mixing up a lot of things. Someone who wants every reward in game without paying at all and without having to work for it is not a casual player, they are just greedy. If someone wants to unlock everything, that is completely fine. I even want to do that. However, that no longer makes you a casual player. It is going to be harder to complete.
Your expectations are sort of all over. You're saying it's manipulative to have a limited time event?? Every major game does this, it's a really good way of encouraging people to play more. Additionally, you don't even have to get rewards through the rift. Many of them will become available for purchase later.
You can't expect them to just give everything out for free with no challenge whenever it's convenient for you.
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Im gonna laugh my ass off if these arnt the real challenges at all, but rather placeholders the devs put in place to troll dataminers.
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As a solo survivor these challenges will be impossible to complete for me. I hope the developers reconsider some of these challenges and keep the solo players in mind. They wouldn't be too bad if they were NOT required to do in a single trial.
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There is no way anyone is getting 3 safe unhook in the End Game in a Single Trial. Won't ever happen unless the killer is in on it with you. What a joke. But, it's to be expected from the money hoarders.
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They do play the game.
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It is trolling more than data miners since I can see them in the actual game.
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It's already been stated adnauseam, these type of Challenges are more dependant on luck/RNG to align....which for other Challenges is ok....but the EGC save 3 Survivors in one match and the others similar to it...are def "Planets must align" type of BS....Im MOSTLY happy with thr Archives & Rift....but they can not have these and expect us to be content with them...I rather work towards MORE do X number of things across multiple Matches that take maybe 3-5 Matches generally to complete than BS Single Match stuff.
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Yeah, me no likey either.
Especially DCs are just going to induce rage like never before.
"Okay, i finally got fellow Survivors who mostly let me repair, now just 1 more Genera-" *Killer disconnects*
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Aren't super hard challenges kind of a tradition in gaming? Isn't the point to have bragging rights when you actually finish them? They aren't unobtainable. They are just really, REALLY hard.
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No worries, If you ask me there is no ######### way they're leaving them as they are, the negative feedback is already immense, can't imagine what would happen if they actually went through with this.
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Even for people (like me) who don't care about it that much and just want to play the game it's going to screw us over because everyone is going to be going for the challenges all the time. Not sure what the devs are thinking, maybe they aren't thinking at all
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Point is, it's not about them being hard. They not hard. It's just way too many conditions should be fulfilled for you to complete them. And you can't fulfill these conditions by yourself only.
I mean, if it said "run from killer for amount 2 mins in one trial" - it would be hard.
But it says some ######### like "unhook 3 survs in endgame in one trial" - its requred:
1) You to be alive at this point, which is challenge itself.
2) Atleast 2 other survs to be alive at this point, since you can unhook every surv twice.
3) They also shouldn't be dead on hooks.
4) If killer was nearby, you also need to lose the killer (quick reminder - you still in EGC), but without escaping to the gates, because you need more unhooks (dependand of how many unhooks you did already).
5) Other survs shouldn't escape from trial right away, they should be hooked for you to get to it. Count how many times after someone opened the gate they didn't escape right away? Or, atleast didn't stay at the gate? Like, think about it: they should be really good to stay alive at the end, but bad enough to be downed during EGC. That's mutually exclusive.
6) You need to do every unhook safely. Which most likely requres BT, since killer will camp, cuz gates are open.
7) You need to dodge NOED and Blood warden.
8) Killer need to be able to make hooks in EGC. Which is pretty hard for killer.
8.1) If killer skilled enough, or uses one-shots/other cool stuff, you need to avoid being hooked, btw.
9) You also need to be one who got unhook. Your unhook shoudn't be stolen.
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TL;DR It's really, REALLY hard!
(I'm just teasing you. Sorry, I couldn't resist!)
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Look, 4 gens with a perk useful only after the gen. That is overly hard friend. You have to game the system to do so, or your survivors and killer must suck very, very bad. Otherwise it won't be completed. Also notice the single trial its all or nothing each time. And someone tapping a gen twice can screw it, you would only get objective points and have to be a gen jockey. The flashlight one is annoying but do-able, that's a challenge. 8 times out of 10 the gen one is suicide, 2 others are very hard. Read and think before posting again and don't go off topic plz
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@Peanits should see these
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After checking them out I've decided to just ignore it...
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Or I didn't read the challenges and skimmed on it quickly?
Only been in this forum for recently and you've been a noticeable massive pain in the neck already, yikes.
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You're right, they didn't. They're hoping you'll fork over real money instead of taking the time to complete the bullshit challenges.
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That's not entirely true. You don't just randomly unlock them as you play (like steam achievements). You have to focus on one in particular. You have to have that goal in mind so it affects your gameplay decisions. Now if I could unlock them through play randomly, I'd be fine with that. Some of these are just... un-fun to even think of attempting.
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That's exactly my point. By focusing on them this much, you aren't a casual player. There's nothing wrong with that though. But by the 4th level in the tome, I should hope that the challenges would be this difficult. That way that take at least the rest of the time to complete, possibly longer. The current challenges many people were able to finish in a day, which while theres nothing wrong with that, I'd like to see the challenges pick up in difficulty.
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Imagine
"Unhook the same survivor 3 times in one trial."
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You’re evil D:
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This whole archives update is a big f***up. I would rather have all the cosmetics be sold in the store without having to complete the rift and remove the rift entirely. The tomes can stay for the lore with the challenges giving you something to spice up your gameplay and not forcing you to play scumy.
As it stands right now this update is a huge disappointment.
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Even on the first tome challenges, players have been depipping and deranking just to get ONE chest done, let alone three in the same trial using Plunderer's Instinct. (which I did by some fluke).
I would be interested in unlocking the Killer ones as I dont play Killer, so I can gather the lore items. Whats a fair item to pay to unlock the tome period?
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