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Devs can we talk about this
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So this is the 4th tome now i know the devs have said they dont comment on leaks so lets go a different route with this you guys showed us this on the ptb so is it really a leak?
Now to the point in what world are some of these challenges even possible
Examples
Kill 3 survivors with noed during end game
Blind the killer while hes carrying a survivor
Unhook 3 survivors during the end game collapse
Come on seriously I get the idea of wanting things to become harder as you go through fair enough but i just honestly think this ones out of the realm of possible unless you are at rank 20 i mean the flashlight the killer while they are carrying a survivor one kinda proves my point.
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Blind the killer while carrying a survivor isn't exactly hard to do. the others well good luck. From my experience with the challenges the killer ones tend to be easier while the survivor ones can get extremely annoying as people are trying to do the same thing and fighting for the unhooks.
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Thats incorrect a killer can simply look down to avoid the blind its literally impossible towards high ranks as killers know they can just look down to avoid the beam.
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blind them during the pickup at the right time and they have no way to react.
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That does not count as when they are carrying a survivor the pick up animation does not count the way its worded is "Blind a killer while they are carrying a survivor" not during the pickup animation.
Also you are aware killers can just look at walls correct? I mean i have not been blinded in a long time.
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I would prefer if they were challenges that took so many games to complete over challenges that need to be completed in one game and make you wanna #########
for example repair 20 gens heal 25 survivors or using a specific perk are much better than those we have at tome 4
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Another tome 4 post #ohjoy
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i would prefer the "master" challenges to take a few games instead of doing whatever in a single game.
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I mean people have the right to give feedback its not like im being rude to the devs im simply giving my opinion but #ohjoy another comment not on topic ;)
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FL saves are completely depended on the killer being to greedy and just picking up a survivor without thinking. This might happen in brown and yellow ranks but definelty not in red ranks. Especially not TWICE in the same match.
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Pretty sure Peanits already replied on one of the other million threads on the 4th tome that these challenges are subject to change.
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Only time you're able to blind a killer (to the effect of saving) is when they're carrying the survivor. Blinding at the end of the pickup animation will work.
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Why make a new thread?
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The thing I dislike about these challenges are they are not representative of skill and more about luck.
Most of them mean relying on others to either play well or do nothing. Also for killer it means survivors playing into strats we have all been advising should not be rewarded.
Once the egc starts if NOED is active at least one survivor normally leaves the game. Swf is what you will need for that challenge to get done and expect them not to have someone trying to destroy the totem and to also not kill anyone before the egc for the best chance. Insidious eill help but there is the fact as a solo player if I am hooked and see the killer is staying close in that scenario I will kill myself on the hook if the others are far away so they aren't rewarded with more kills.
That's not even bringing into how many dc.
The seem more frustrating to do than something which challenges you to play better.
I've stated it before with deathgarden. Those challenges were mind numbingly boring and didn't add anything to the game. They never felt challenging just tedious and you were better off not actively playing to get them done faster with most of them which hurt the others you were matched with.
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skadoosh
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Point is, it's not about them being hard. They not hard. It's just way too many conditions should be fulfilled for you to complete them. And you can't fulfill these conditions by yourself only.
I mean, if it said "run from killer for amount 2 mins in one trial" - it would be hard.
But it says some [BAD WORD] like "unhook 3 survs in endgame in one trial" - its requred:
1) You to be alive at this point, which is challenge itself.
2) Atleast 2 other survs to be alive at this point, since you can unhook every surv twice.
3) They also shouldn't be dead on hooks.
4) If killer was nearby, you also need to lose the killer (quick reminder - you still in EGC), but without escaping to the gates, because you need more unhooks (dependand of how many unhooks you did already).
5) Other survs shouldn't escape from trial right away, they should be hooked for you to get to it. Count how many times after someone opened the gate they didn't escape right away? Or, atleast didn't stay at the gate? Like, think about it: they should be really good to stay alive at the end, but bad enough to be downed during EGC. That's mutually exclusive.
6) You need to do every unhook safely. Which most likely requres BT, since killer will camp, cuz gates are open.
7) You need to dodge NOED and Blood warden.
8) Killer need to be able to make hooks in EGC. Which is pretty hard for killer.
8.1) If killer skilled enough, or uses one-shots/other cool stuff, you need to avoid being hooked, btw.
9) You also need to be one who got unhook. Your unhook shoudn't be stolen.
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I'm just hoping the mass amount of backlash over this BS will make the devs reconsider some of these requirments.
there's difficult, and then there's ridiculous... just seems like a way to 'coax' players into forking over more cash... like paying for the game and its dlc isn't enough.
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Jesus could some of you at least pretend to have above a 4th grade mastery of the English language?
Anyway these challenges are not hard, just situational. BHVR, please don't make challenges braindead.
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If you think that those are possible you are not above rank 20 most them them at higher ranks will never happen period.
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Your use of language is uninspired and lazy... maybe you should find better ways to criticize people beyond their grammar. It makes you look childish.
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Huh... in the mid ranks when being torched I've been turning slightly, sorta crab walking a couple steps then swinging around as I hit the attack button, I'd say I get the hit about 70ish% of the time.. I can't believe I didn't think to just look down.
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Are you talking about me? Iam not native speaker...
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The challenges are not that hard
It will take a couple of days for the 4th te and that's it.
I finished first tome in one evening. Sometimes I see harder dailies then the whole tome.
I'm glad some people will at least try to learn something new.
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"Kill 3 survivors with Noed during Endgame"
Its a 3 hour movie its not that difficult.
All joking aside this rift is basically saying "do nothing for the whole game and give the survivors the best chance at escaping, only trying to kill them at the very end once a gate is opened. OH! Also don't forget to dodge the DCs!"
I fail to see where this is fun.
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