Nurse is not top tier anymore
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u what?
as a surivor I play with my friends all players between 2-3k hrs on gameplay and nurse without addons only with BBQ 3 destroy us with ease
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i'm sorry, you don't know how to loop versus nurse. Tell me, how do you avoid getting hit by her?
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While she’s not op anymore on Pc, she’s now officially the weakest killer in game for all other platforms. I’m not sure how the devs feel about it but I think they should buff her on all platforms but buff her more on console because she was already kinda bad for anyone who wasn’t playing on Pc. I think I only see someone play her in red ranks like once or twice a month. After her nerf I played against her 3 times and everytime all 4 survivors escaped.
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stealth first, next usually doesn't work so i'm getting hit, ofc, next i try to break LOS running around big stucture like main build on swamp, trying mindgames her on stairs on swamp, haddonfield, try to run in corn, farm maps, against average nurse not even good or "god" this doesn't work so u know
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Weakest killer Lul she still blink though wall , still the same distance and only 4s cooldown but ok.
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If you do this, it's a guess. If you make the right guess, congratulations, you wasted around 10 seconds of her time. Every missed blink is around 10 seconds chase time. Even as a bad player without any looping skill at all you can use DH to make a chase 30 seconds long. Baseline. Every right guess by your side longers the chase. And constant chases one minute or longer let you loose the game.
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You tell me like I don't know, I have more hours on the nurse than on the survivor lul
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Forget it for him the nurse is dead.
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Noob
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(without cooldown addons) yes she is.
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typical nurse player who could only play with extra blinks or omega, pathetic, base nurse before was fine and now with addons she's better, than her base before, she's like rest killer's now, she need's addons to be more viable or still like I before said if u're master nurse lvl 9000 you can stomp SWF with no perks/addons still
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i played her without perks and addons for fun on r1 before, but ok
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me too even on 1 blink so?
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i tried one blink for fun, got around two people most times
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most ppl even on r1 are potato as f but I also try and play very well
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If you're one of the top 20 killers/Nurse's in the world, she's still the best, sure. Spoiler alert: Most Nurse's were just really good, and the nerfs make her overall, really bad and awkward. But, like any killer, you'll dumpster bad survivors like you can on any killer at red ranks with the pool of bad survivors.
Or if you're a survivor who hasn't played a Nurse game against good survivors or killer at higher ranks at all, or you've never played killer in your life, then sure, she's perfect, as you'd expect them to say
As a side note, this game has a habit of making killers that are bad without addons, and just barely good with them. That's not how you balance a game. Addons should make a strong killer stronger, not make a meh killer viable. A great example of this is how absolutely pathetic Doctor's shock range is without addons, and the green one is almost 100% necessary. The fact the devs haven't even BOTHERED to just give Doctor a basic buff to his shock range, instead of the tiny, useless range it has had this whole time speaks volumes.
You. Don't. Have. To. Do. Full. Reworks. To. Give. Bad. Killers. Small. Buffs. Why are you all so afraid to balance this game?
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No, you can't. They will just rush gens before you can do anything if you don't have stall perks.
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simple u're not good enough on her
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Nurse is playable by the top 0.3% of all nurse players now, if they are using her without the CD addons against good survivors. Is that good? I don't think so.
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It doesn't matter how good you are on her, when new Nurse lacks map pressure without add-ons, while 1 survivor can do a gen in 80 seconds without great skill checks, perks or Toolboxes. Even if she end chases very fast, if she doesn't have stall perks, survivors will just gonna smash gens and win simple as that. And without tracking perks, she's also gonna waste time trying to look for survivors.
Even before she wouldn't won agaisnt a good SWF team without perks/add-ons, but now definitely no.
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that's why perks and addon's exist you imagine playing without perks/addons and stomp everyone so how powerful you would be playing with it, she's has stuff in the game so use it
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Spirit lacks map pressure. Huntress sucks at map pressure with a much weaker chase. Yet both are toptier, you only need one or the other, not both.
Nurse mains are just spoiled from her previous godlike status. All you're describing are normal killer problems. Welcome to dbd
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Iv played few games of new nurse on console, its was horrible always watching/waiting for your power to recharge is terrible, map pressure is gone i cant blink around the map now because of fear i run into a survivor and not have any blinks ready its ridiculous, on top of that you still get fatigue, and now you got cooldown and still slowest killer, why all these negatives
I understand nurse needed addon rework but why the basekit nerf why ? The cooldown on her ability is unfun not only was cooldown added the devs still left her slowest moving killer and still kept her fatigue its mind boggling what devs do sometimes
Before someone says "oh but there addons that help" no addon depended killers are unfun. It would be like saying survivors could only vault windows if they have window vault addon lol (would be funny)
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This thread is astoundingly stupid. You have average players (the majority of Nurse players) complaining that the changes are too harsh, only to be met with reply A: "I have 1000s of hours on Nurse or literally play the game for a living, and I think she's fine. Git gud." Or reply B: "I'm a survivor that doesn't even really play Nurse outside of killer dailies, so I don't really understand how she functions in high rank play. 3.5 seconds isn't a big deal." It's cool if people want to actually have an honest discussion about what a cooldown really means, but at least approach the discussion with some intellectual honesty. I work on cars for a living, and I wouldn't expect the average hobbyist to change oil in under 10 minutes like I can. And I wouldn't tell a doctor that new regulations aren't a big deal because I visited a doctor's office throughout my life.
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You said that she still can win against a good SWF team without perks or add-ons. And I said that you are wrong and she couldn't do that even before. I never said to not use perks or add-ons on her or on anybody else.
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if good SWF can beat her before or now this means they got more skill than nurse players, she's the power role in the game so if you can't kill with her, u shouldn't play her at all
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Sincerely, I highly doubt that Huntress is top tier anymore. Literally half of the maps have an infinite for her and with abandoning chases being the only "counter" to said infinites says everything about how "great" Huntress is.
Yes, Spirit lacks map pressure without add-ons, but I never brought her into discussion.
I already said that I still consider Nurse top tier. I only said that I don't see her or any other killer capable of winning agaisnt a good survivor team without perks or add-ons. So you clealry misunderstood me.
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This even isn't related to what we discussed before.
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the subject of this discussion is "Nurse is not top tier anymore" everyone know this is not true, so we can end this discussion here, there's nothing here to add
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I don't even know what you mean, git gud
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Ur ok, bud ?
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I just wanted to ask you the same boy
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Billy also has to abandon chase at infinites. Hag gets hardcountered by swf and flashlights. They have weaknesses, but their capabilities are still way superior. Huntress is really good, but more hit-or-miss. Apart from nurse and spirit, i think she's the 3rd strongest killer against the best teams.
Dont you think that it is just fair, that you should lose perkless, addonless against great survivor swfs? Every killer loses to good survivors genrushing. Why SHOULD nurse be the exception?
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I also said it could be the horrific servers plus the several bugs nurse got atm. I'll wait till the devs fixed it and then try her again. Legion will be enough for my poor ass.
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no this isn't true good spirit/nurse(still) can stomp with ease even best survivor so u know
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So you think the nurse will get a buff, right?
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She shouldn't be the exception, she should have been what all killers be like: dangerous. Not a plaything.
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Nurse is nowhere near as good as she used to be. She kinda sucks now since she needed the blink without cooldown to cross the map in time to have any chance vs gen rushing.
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I highly disagree with Huntress being 3rd best, she is very mediocre for the most part and I would take Freddy, Plague or Demogorgon over her against good teams, especially if I would know that I'm not gonna get Blood Lodge. On so many maps you can make her a 110% speed M1 killer or even make her DC, it's insane. And you're wrong, any other killer can catch up to survivors at these loops, but Huntress can't, that's why these are infinites only for her and not for anyone else.
Now please show me where I said that it's unfair for killers to lose perkless and addonless against good teams, I wait.
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Highly doubt they can do it consistently, if survivors tryhard too. Depip squad and perkless tournament gave mixed results. A 4 minute clock is only beatable with a lucky start. Get a lucky down, slug and hope survivors play their first chase badly. Else you're getting genrushed. That goes for every killer basically, but skipping chase mechanics is almost necessary against great survivors to get that quick first down when all the pallets are up.
Thats what nurse currently is, isn't she? A toptier killer, but a balanced toptier killer, not a godlike toptier killer. You still have to keep your heads down, you still cant toy with nurse. She's the most lethal, but she may lose the timerace now due to the lower threshold for errors. That can be an incentive to some to become a great nurse or a deterrant for those who dislike the challenge.
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Okay, then we're definetely not on the same boat. Do you play on PC or console?
Plague is literally a wannabe Huntress, that gets her huntress status denied.
Demogorgon is a worse Billy and Freddy is a good basic killer, but basic nonetheless.
They dont have huntress ranged attack, she plays a different game and that game can break the best survivors. Thats why i consider her toptier. Although she is harder overall than Spirit and Nurse, she is not in the same league as the other killers.
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That’s the problem though: “normal killer problems” aren’t fair. It is literally impossible to control the match if survivors just choose to slam gens. This is not how the game should be balanced.
This adds nothing to the discussion. What’s funny is that everyone questioning the Nurse nerfs has legitimate talking points. People saying the nerfs were justified have no rebuttal or anything beyond “get gud” or, my least favorite, “NUrSe bReAks dA GAME”. Come back when you have an actual argument.
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Its not fair too, that a killer was so good, she can even beat that other overpowered thing. Balance means balancing everything, even your own side. Or else we would still facecamp and infinite and point at each other. Cant remove infinites if facecamping stays. Cant remove facecamping if infinites stay. Then we dont remove either of those and nobody is happy. One step at a time. Genrush is long overdue for a look though, agree on that.
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The challenges added a new kind of "objective" though. Maybe a try of the devs to stop genrush.
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Annoying af what they did to her
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Both the nurse basekit nerf and how badly the dedicated servers are just show how bad the people working at BHVR are at both balance and the technical side. Its pretty sad.
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lol these threads
I can still regularly 4k as new Nurse. She's fine.
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Top notch logic right there 🤣
Following this logic i would have infinite waiting times with my swf.
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I'm around 300h or so on nurse, maybe more as I have played on friends accounts before I bought the game.
Yes, the sweaty groups dominating every game they're in is a huge problem. Doesn't matter if they're rare or not it's the exact same problem people had with nurse when they get 4kd "every single game"
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Rick Roll? What do you think this is, 2009? 😂
All jokes aside if you played her on console you’d know how bad she is on there.
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