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A lot of Nerfs
Please Nerf survive with friends and Adrenaline.
All the problem with this game is with this two things.
Survive with friends: They can communicate, they can make all the killer perks USELESS, delete all the game difficult and makes this game a complete trash for who play killer. i am already hating it.
Adrenaline:The most powerful perk, it can be activated while you are exausted it is a bullshit cuz it makes a lot harder for the killer and makes USELESS use noed for example. Pleas nerf this 2 things to left this game better and balanced
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Adrenaline ill agree with
But you can't nerf people wanting to play with friends. There's ways you can turn a swf against themsleves ....I haven't figured that out yet but practice makes perfect
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Ok but the question is That ######### keeps unbalanced it must be nerf
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SWF, no
Adrenaline needs a slight QoL change
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Do you have any suggestions to nerf swf without hurting solo survivors too? Swf Isn’t something easily changed.
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in order to properly be able to nerf SWF, they'd need to buff solo survivors so much, that they are on the same communication level as SWFs.
for adrenaline, i think the 5 second sprint is too much tbh. imo the perk would be much better if it was eigther a heal or, if fully healed, the 5 second sprint.
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I can empathize with SWF being frustrating to face, but the devs are never going to make any changes to it because a lot of people would quit over it. Adrenaline is also frustrating, but fine as far as balance goes. It's just more encouragement to stop those gens from being done, and from the survivor side, it can let the guy who looped the killer all game actually have a chance to escape when the gates are powered. Nothing sucks worse than maxing out boldness/chase points but getting nothing else done and then getting one-hooked/face camped while your three teammates teabag their way out of the gates.
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AD needs to be three seconds sprintburst instead of five. And it only heals you if you are not exhausted at the moment of activation.
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It would be nice if people stopped with these kinds of discussions. If you don't have an idea for a change to something don't cry about nerfs just for sake of it.
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Agreed.
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Ok but you need to understand a thing. If survive with friends be Nerf some survivors will leave. But if its not be nerf Killers will leave. 2º thing ITS KEEPS UNBALANCED if they can keep making ALL THE KILLERS PERKS USELESS AND EASILY NERFED AND DISCOVERED. It need to be nerfed at least a bit
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You’d have to nerf it in a way that didn’t hurt solo survivors, like I said, it really isn’t an easy task to nerf swf.
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@rd_dex 100% agree.
Its boring and annoying when people post threads asking for nerfs without providing support for their position and not coming up with an idea of how to go about it.
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If you think it is boring so why are you here GodDamn_Angela?
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why should nerfing swf affect solo survivor? you can just add handicaps for prebuild groups. like 2 in a grp -10% action speed, 3 -25% and full swf -50%.(numbers are just a random example...)
or things like no hatch spawn for swf, 10% faster entity calling. so many things possible without touching solo
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i started to play this game in 2016. I bought it on the BETA and one thing that i can say is DO NOT CARE IF U R GOOD OR NOT HERE everything changes with the party. This is my problem with SWF cuz it makes impossible to the killer use his perks
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It really doesn’t make it impossible to use your perks. If swf can make the perk useless then most solo players can too.
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SWF just incresses the amount of useless perks. It can be ruined by a lot of ways like share a totem position (another thing that must be buff cuz its so broken see a totem on the middle of the map)
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Why does anyone think swf is fair?
It's just not and it never will be. Survivors weren't mean to be able to easily say "trapper put his trap there, and also he has [insert perk] and is heading [this direction]."
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I can do this as solo with bond.
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swf only make a few select perks useless, mainly blindness inflicting or information denying perks like Hex: Third Seal or Knock Out.
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Well, and the fact that it completely obliterates two killers' powers (Hag and Trapper). It sucks that while SWF does negatively impact gameplay, you can't really do anything to it without making a bunch of people quit.
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I wouldn't nerf SWF, but I would buff Solo Players to have the same amount of information (or at least some of the information).
Adrenaline needs some QoL changes, maybe make that speed duration from 5 to 3 seconds?
Edit: After buffing Solo Players then you can more easily balance Killers around that.
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Another thing that makes SWF POWERFUL. Their own perks. If anyone is using a perk to locate the killer it will make easier for they. Object of Obsession for example
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First Ruin will be broken probably faster in SWF just like i said before Communication
second Scout will be a lot easier
Third perks like knock out and third seal will be useless
Fourth some of Their perks keep most powerful in SWF
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this ^
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I swear, I have never seen a player base cry so much! Couple of weeks ago it was the insta heals, before that... Honestly I can't even remember all the complaints anymore.
Basically some want anything and everything taken away from survivors. Then and only then, when the game is a sure win, will people be happy.
I play survivor and killer. Never used insta heals, never used DS. I also never play SWF anymore. I find it annoying as all hell. And takes my mind set out of the game. As killer (which I love to play) I never used bbq, nurses calling any of the ones that let me see survivors constantly. Why? I want a fun challenging game. My thing is slowing the gens down, just a little bit.. Or a whole lot, the way I play.
You can escape without using certain things, just like a killer can get a 4k without certain things. But guess that all depends on how you play, how good you are. Learn, adapt and try different things. And for the love of all things entity! Can people stop wanting everything needed on both side. It's a damn game.
Pretty soon this game will be horrible on both sides and everyone will have to blame themselves.
I definitely agree with the person who said, "Just get better!" Your not supposed to win "ALL" the time. On either side. I watch many people who easily counter adrenaline. So my question is, what are you doing wrong?
How can either side feel good about a game won, if it wasn't won with challenge?
And ain't no one leaving the game because of SWF or stupid survivor perks.. Just like survivors ain't leaving because of the killers. They'll leave because they are babies, and can't manage to get better. And in my opinion, let those people leave. Those are usually the ones who DC and rage anyways(less one or the other are just being pure toxic, but that's debatable too! Because being toxic is using what the game gives you anyways!). Game is better off without the tater tots that can't adapt.
But, I am sure most won't even be able to read all this. I am sure that would be to difficult as well.
But either way, have a good night all. Back to my games now.
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