Useful Spirit Survey

Done. Hope you get the results you want.

Definitely. If Spirit must be nerfed, Survivors must be nerfed. Period. Spirit is the only Killer who can deal with elite red rank Survivor teams and their genrush + long looping. You don't get to keep your tools while the other team loses theirs, Survivors.

It's fairly obvious what we're gonna see. "SpIrIt HaS No CoUntErPlAY", "SPIRIT IS UNFUN".

Not gonna be surprised when the majority rule, 100% convinced it's right and unable to be reasoned with as a result, rears it's head, again,

Well enjoy my answer but i doubt my idea will spark any interest since most want her to be gutted legion style : /

My idea is just to increase the volume of footsteps from spirit. (They are already directional but very faint)

Thatway both sides must be good at tracking to prevail.

What you wrote or what would you wrote?

(Eitherway its by far the best idea and it dosen't gut spirit legion style!)

Now that I can finally post again...

Just wanted to bounce into this thread to make a few points.

1) As someone that did professional survey development your questions are honestly a tad biased, which can influence the results. You do use a sort-of-Likert scale, so I applaud you for that, but the wording has to be as neutral as possible. I'd like to give examples but I honestly cannot remember the EXACT wording of the questions (I did the survey yesterday during work) but I do remember thinking to myself "this question is biased". If you want more concrete results you need neutral questions.

2) Posting it to the forums and even to your own Youtube probably won't yield enough results to draw any meaningful conclusions. Furthermore, anyone that follows you on Youtube will likely either already agree with your position OR be influenced by your position, skewing the results. Not sure where else you posted this but you will need to run the survey for a long time and get it out to as many people as possible OUTSIDE of your followers to gain anything from it.

3) I don't agree with the idea that console players rate her better because of differences in controls. Having a mouse in this game is not really going to make a huge difference when playing killer, with the exception of Huntress and Nurse because they actually require aiming. The fact it's a melee attack means that your input method is somewhat moot. There is also the fact that you can turn plenty fast on 100 sensitivity, enough to spin your camera fast to avoid 360, check areas quickly, or perform red stain mind games. I also don't agree with this "difference in audio" you mention, as IIRC you said it was due to players using the TV audio. A lot of Xbox players have headsets, and I know for a fact that the top players in this game have good headsets. It's actually very rare for Xbox players that play online multiplayer games to use the TV audio in a lot of games. Maybe this is true for low ranks, but at high ranks it's definitely not. I personally use Astro a50's, and I know all my friends have Turtle Beach or something comparable. Really all you need is a stereo headset to do what you need to do as Spirit.

4) More than likely the reason console players rate her better is because she is WAY more common on console than PC, simply because the best killer (Nurse) is so difficult to play with a controller that the actual God tier Nurses are few and far between. In fact on Xbox I can count on 1 hand the number of Nurse's I consider to be at this level. Every other Nurse I come across will be mediocre at best. But Spirit is super common, at least at higher ranks on Xbox. This means console players are just more used to her. I think for PC she's less common and as such people weren't forced to practice against her as much, so they tend to have more trouble now that she is so much more common, which skews their perspective of her strength.

5) Just to point out, I took the survey. I play on Xbox, rank 1 both sides (though right now I'm rank 3 for both simply because I've been playing the game way less since Borderlands 3 came out). I rated her pretty high as being fun to play against (really would rate her even higher but I feel like a lot of Spirit players do super dirty things, less the killer and more the type of people that tend to play her is what makes it less fun), BUT I also rated her high as being difficult to counter. Like I completely disagree she has no counter play and it's just an auto-win for the killer, but I will agree she is DIFFICULT to counter. Difficult to counter and impossible to counter are two completely separate things. Like I find Hag difficult to counter sometimes, but I don't find her impossible and that difficulty doesn't make her less fun (though hardcore Hag campers are less fun but I digress). So again, you need to find a better way to ask these questions because the bias will lead you to the wrong conclusions.

6) I don't believe she needs to be changed outside of Prayer Beads, HOWEVER I will acknowledge that a lot of players DO NOT like her and that maybe some things should be done to mitigate that. I suggested to remove the ability to grab post phase walk when using Prayer Beads, as it would remove one of the lamest parts about that add-on being easy gen/totem grabs. Then increase the volume of footsteps within 6m when outside the husk's TR so that a survivor can know when she is really close to them so they know to do some squirrelly moves to dodge the attack. Finally add an slight audio echo to sounds for Spirit when phase walking, as this will just increase the skill gap a tad for the killer player. I disagree with almost every other idea I've seen to "fix" the Spirit because almost all of them will fundamentally change her kit. She's meant to be confusing. That's the whole point. You're not supposed to KNOW when she is or is not phase walking. It's part of the reason she was weak on PTB (also the directional woosh). Any suggestion that basically says "give a cue when she is phase walking" will gut her. This includes having her move grass, because corn maps would become absolute counters to her. And considering corn maps are a problem in general we don't need to make them any better for survivors. No the solutions to this problem have to either increase the skill gap for the killer or give the survivors something to react to when they need to be reacting (hence why I suggest increasing volume of footsteps because that's when you NEED to have something to react to, when she is about to attack). It just feels like all the players want a giant neon sign about her head that says "I AM PHASE WALKING". All this stuff would just destroy her, you are supposed to have to predict her.

Sorry if this thread was buried, but I wanted to get all this out and haven't been able to post in the past month until today. I do appreciate you @ScottJund for at least trying to see this from a different perspective and trying to get some hard data, but at the same time I see flaws in this process. If you want to continue with this I recommend revising your survey to be more neutral and finding ways to get it out to as many different types of players as possible.