Which killer should I play if I were against a coordinated SWF
Im talking about a good and highly coordinated SWF; IW, DH, DS, BL, SB, Toolboxes and flashlights. What killer would do great against that? it used to be nurse, but with the recent nerf plus a lot of deadzones (specially around trees) it makes her almost impossible to perform better than average.
Spirit would be the second option, but if they run IW you probably wont win most chases.
Other good killers like Huntress and Billy are highly map dependant, facing them on a Lery's or The Game and everything would be on survivors favour.
And I won't even name stealth killers because they have a negative chance against that.
On another topic: do you think its ok that if all 5 players of the match play the best they can, the survivors will always win? I get it that the way its intended to be is that survivors have to work together to escape, but I personally think that a 4man swf should not be able to stomp all killers like they were a mannequin with a pointy stick. Like I said before, that was the only reason some people played nurse against those kind of people. Of all the killer roster only a couple stand a chance.And now they're going to """"rework"""" Spirit because is not easily as looped as literally all other killers
If im seeing this correctly, on the not so far future people playing coordinated with their team on discord calls won't have nothing to worry about or try harder than average tto win a match because killers like Nurse and Spirit won't be as good as they were before.
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Billy or Freddy. Nurse is useable but she's wholly add-on dependent now.
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I have beaten SWF with Clown. It is possible with any killer as long as they make mistakes and you play to your perks.
Maps obviously factor in, but I really am tired of people saying only 1 or 2 killers are "viable" when all are capable of achieving victory.
We are not supposed to win every match, and none of the killer cast is capable of that.
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I was literally going to say the same thing. Play any killer.
I've beaten SWF's with Trapper and Wraith and I've lost to them while using Spirit and Huntress. Each team is a different team with different skill levels and you can pressure people into making mistakes.
Just get better at whatever killer you want to use
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If were Killers were strong enough to constantly 4K the most skilled and coordinated SWF groups the world has to offer.... this game would quickly die as the other 99% of the community would never survive a match.
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I am aware of "you're not supposed to win every match!!" but a coordinated SWF will win 9 out of 10 matches, specially if they de rank on purpose
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Spirit, Billy, Huntress, and Freddy are good choices. You can put on some good addons if you need them. If you're worried about map, throw one in yourself. Killer has a higher probability of getting their map choice than a survivor offering-- unless multiple survivors pick the same map.
Against a GOOD SWF then you will probably lose unless you bring strong addons like instasaw, saya/amulet, iri-head, etc. Even then, you may get <2 kills if their skill as a team is greater than yours.. in which case, move on. This said, if I want certain survivors dead, it will happen, even if I sacrifice a pip with a mori. So, it's up to you.
As far as who would win- best survivors or best killer. Best survivors, hands down. However, getting the best survivor SWF are very far and few between. For every really good survivor, there's probably 2 average and a gen-jockey derp, and this is at red ranks. Maybe you'll find that derp first.
There are a lot of variables and RNG that helps one side more than another and so the same team that escapes you in one map, you may decimate in the very next game on the same map because of who you find first, tile layout & pallet distribution, etc.
If you lose, don't take it too hard, this game isn't balanced like a traditional game and you'll find this out the more you play.
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Clown so you can please the entity with a jig.
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The killer you are best with. No point in picking Nurse or Spirit if you're not very good with them. You want to pick your strongest killer, and your strongest build.
You also need to play excessively dirty to win. Camp, tunnel, slug, whatever you need to do to win because you have to. The survivors will probably hate you for it, but sometimes it's the only way.
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Iron will doesn't counter Spirit. Just throwing that out there.
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@beatddb I agree a good SWF is the strongest thing in the game.
Best advice I can offer you is switch targets often, wound them all, and wait for them to make a mistake when they try to complete gens wounded as many of them do.
At worst you will have lots of points.
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Bring Huntress with one shot hatchets and an ebony mori.
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You can choose not to play with swf... no killer is strong enough to stand a chance against swf
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Throw stridor on spirit permanently and you got yourself the strongest killer in the game.
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Legitimately, billy is one of the strongest against swf groups and you can get the hang of him fairly quickly, he takes nowhere near the time it takes to learn nurse. If the team is too altruistic. It can result in an easy 4k
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Spirit with "Stridor" probably. You have tp be a mind reader to play nurse these days.
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You want time, so dying light, thanatophobia, ruin
You want some kind of power and with dying light active may aswell get STBFL
Now if you want extra power, ghost face, shape, hill Billy, cannibal
If you want even more time, pig, legion, Freddy
I advice the time, cause gens are too quick to do, and pig and legion would be best for a bit of power, pig gives stealth and can slightly give time and with 2 add ons give either extra time if you want or make ambush very very very deadly with practice, legion can detect and force some extra time if done right and with certain perks make detection stronger, Freddy can teleport and place traps that slow down people making chases quicker with add ons make gens a nightmare to do, even to awake ones
If you rather power, well, you want to keep as much pressure as possible, ghost face can do this through isolation if done right, perks to make exposed either last longer or build up quicker, shape you want to make power last as long as possible, and have it activate mid chase at the right point, the tip of evil 3 you build then finish close up, maybe force deadhard, hillbilly there's a green thing that does everything overall for chainsaw (cannibal too) and a thing that helps him turn during rush even better, cannibal add the extra range, never underestimate it, it has made many a chase just end like that
That's all based on my time destroying salty as hell SFW so I strongly think these are reliable, I personally go between Freddy, hill Billy, ghost face
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Whatever killer you're most comfortable with. I've seen really good gameplay from "low tier" killers by players that main them.
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Billy. There are other good killers, but having a one show down takes out several tools and tricks SWF. I love it when healthy people come to bodyblock for their injured friends because I just mow them down instead.
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Nothing beats Dr. Three Gen
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Spirit is still great against IW you just have to learn how to deal with it. All the tells are in the grass movement and vault animations.
Honestly a few good killers are Pig, Trapper, Hag, Freddy, Huntress, Billy, and finally Myers. Provided you know how to use them. Huntress and Billy are map dependent, but incredibly strong.
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