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General Discussions
#DONTTOUCHSPIRIT
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And how would you know that?
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The devs have stated trapper, freddy, and hag are currently the killers with the highest kill ratings..so her kill rate isnt the issue..we all know what the real reason is
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I have to assume the difference is kill rating vs escape rating. a killer can get a 4k with no dc because the survivors deem the killer fair/balanced. A killer can also get 1k and no escapes because the survivors don't feel the match is fair.
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I'll be blunt..its very obvious it was her dc rating that set this in motion..and the three killer hit hardest by changes up to know also had high DC rates..its not a coincidence
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Do you have a source for this? I am intrigued as they said that the Spirit was overperforming compared to other killers on the same stream where they confirmed changes for her.
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As much as I dislike Spirit, part of me wants her left alone after what the devs did to Nurse.
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That same stream they confirmed freddy has the highest kill rating..and I cant remember where but they did say trapper has the highest red rank ps4 kills..its actually quite a shock despite his weaker status..and their last stat reveal showed hag up there too
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Spirit has so many counters, but people just want more Legions and Trappers they can mindlessly loop for 5 gens
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The thing is though, we find ourselves at a yet another Nurse situation (I'm not saying Spirit's base power is alike to the Nurse's) where we have a killer whose (in all actuality) one add on is the main source of the "Problem" that people have with the Spirit.
I mean, let's be honest here Prayer Beads is the only real add on that feels like aids to play against on the Spirit, her other other add ons do exactly as in intended, i.e. Enhancement of her base power (common - rare) while her Very Rare - Ultra Rare are mean't to spice things up for the player.
Let's also keep in mind too that the creation of the Spirit was (more than likely) a response to the literal fact that killers sucked to play back then.
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Ok, calling the argument "nonsense" isn't exactly compelling. The argument against spirit makes a lot of sense, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't true.
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With all the nerfs to perks in the last year for survivors, I'd say killers have been winning for a while now. Unlike killers survivors have nothing that makes them unique except perks. Ironically, you will only ever see the same 4 meta perks. Making survivors all the same. These are the major ones I can think of (waiting though for the eventual buff to my girl piggy.)
Decisive nerf
Instaheals
Palletvacuum (thank god)
Windowvault nerf
Flashlight nerf
Medkit change
Mettle of man nerf
Killers mainly lost
Nurse S++ Tier to A teir at best
Legion nerf
Enduring nerf
Can someone confirm if the pigs traps used to go off in general when you went out exits? I feel like they did even if they were not activated. Or maybe i was wrong...
These are major ones I can think of off the top of my head. There is probably more. So feel free to throw some up there.
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Your right..the fact that its incorrect makes it not true
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Lovin' the involvement.
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Yeah let me just summon a team to play 100 consecutive matches and let me just immediately join a tournament I know nothing about. You got me bro! #outed #scandal #areyoufuckingserious
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Hey Scott do you think they should look at Huntress? I feel like she's balanced, but requires nurse level mechanics and prediction. I feel like she has such a sharp learning curve that could be ironed out with more drawn out add-ons. I think the last update with her was turning her brick hitboxes into orb hitboxes. They haven't updated or buffed any of her jankey perks so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯?
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I think she's fine since the directional audio buff. She is definitely hard to learn, though.
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Since when was being factually correct considered close minded?
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How about No. Spirit should absolutely be adjusted, she's f'in broken right now
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So hard to ask 4 friends to do that? You could read up on the tournament, don't act like I ask you to climb on top of the k2. Also what do you need to know, spirit op, you win infinite matches remember?
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You mean like this?
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Take away her beads and I'm good.
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Two killers that have survivors change their palystyle from pallet looping spirit and nurse. The two killers getting changed spirit and nurse. Hmm makes me wonder if people actually are just upset they cant bully the killer so easily...
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I don’t completely disagree.
I’m more so asking because I want to know why constructive posts that can really generate some discussion are banished to “Feedback and Suggestions”.
Meanwhile there are several pages of “General Discussion” with posts just like this. Especially on the same topic, which often have less discussion and more fighting between users on each post.
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Only one I see crying is you now buddy with your stupid post, if you are one of Spirit Players then who's crying? Only thing I can say is that you are another killer who is missing the point of the game, "THE CHASE" spirit has no chase, Stridor, Pop, BBQ and Ruin .. Phase, Hit, Phase Hit, no chase no fun! I dont like Spirit, and I see most survivors are disconnecting against her cause most players who plays it doesnt know how to break a loop without an OP killer
so stop crying and play another killer and learn how to break loops
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"your right" mmkay, thanks. All I need to read lol.
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No, she must be nerf.
A nurse can be powerful but requires a lot of skill, many days/weeks of play.
A spirit in one day you learn to destroy survivors, does not require skill.
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I would certainly hope so
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Please enlight me in the "valid points" and pls don't say "no matter what you do..." like some people because she have a lot of counters.
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I always play alone...
Regarding the easy 4k, it is completely true, I will have about 15 hours of game spirit and in all my games I got 4k, now I can't even talk about the main spirits with hundreds of hours.
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How the fudge are you suppose to «break» loops. Thats the problem! Spirit «breaks» loops, But is the one killer out of TWO that can. So arguing she has no counter play then surely survivors against regular m1 killers have no counterplay.
The double standards in this community is infuriating!
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lol when you think petitions or one person threatening to not spend money do anything.
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pretty sure the stats do include that
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I'm just going to leave this here:
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Judging by past 'reworks', she's probably on the chopping block
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You are talking like threads in that section will never get seen.
Feedback and Suggestions is not a place outside time and space that no one can access, it's the best place to post feedback and/or suggestions about different topics and have them organized so the devs can see what the community thinks about a specific matter.
A rant is not feedback or a suggestion and just to be clear, it's easier to miss a thread in General Discussions for how fast and full that section is than losing it in Feedback.
On top of that, a lot of people navigate through the forum using Recent Discussions and not the specific section.
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Not say they never get seen, but that they are seen by significantly less people than in General Discussion. 6K posts vs 44K, there’s a lot less traffic. It is more likely to be passed by, but in my personal experience a lot more will potentially see it too.
I was asking because one of my discussions was moved suddenly. Presumably because the intention of the post was misunderstood (definitely my fault, should have worded the title differently).
However, the intent of my discussion wasn’t for a dev to see it as a suggestion from a singular post. That would have very little impact overall in their decision making.
It was to have a discussion with other people in the community. And to get a lot of people thinking about the ideas I shared, whether they agreed with them or not.
If my ideas are good, then others may talk about them, argue them, adjust them, or mention them again elsewhere if they really liked it. That will have a much longer and profound impact than a suggestion by a singular person that Behavior sees, considers, and then disregards.
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I would agree with every spirit treath bout not nerfing her if she wasnt THAT easy, she is pretty easy mate. they should change this:
no hitbox of her while in phase walk so she cant bump in people.
survivor sounds are omnidirectional, just like spirit phase is.
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I can literally give you between here and reddit saying how spirit was annoying (her base kit and addons)
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pretty cheap argument, a lot of people ask for buffs to them and maybe the target for a killer is: freddy or demogorgon.
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I was talking about nurse tho, not spirit.
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How! mind games buddy, you go this way and trick me by coming back again, moonwalking, there is a 100 ways to break loops! Yupe just like I said, another player who has no clue how to play the game so he takes the easy option "Phase and Hit" go learn how to play buddy
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I feel some of the Spirit should be nerfed.
Her collision should have not changed at all.
Wanna know why?
She can bump into the wall. But cant bump into a survivor? What collision does the wall have that the survivor doesn't lol. Doesn't make any sense. Shes a ghost after all... ;P remove all collision if you are going to remove collision.
Plus bumping into a Survivor is rare.
Because you know... if you see them most likely they see you... soo.
They are going to keep running or moving. (Especially with spine chill)
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Honestly her base kit is fine, all she needs nerf is the sprint addon when coming out of phase, ONLY THAT, not even prayer breads.
But you know, running in circles doesn't work=overperforming, meanwhile hillbilly is not overperforming 🤔
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It takes time to Master Billy, it takes time to Master Nurse, it takes time to Master how to break a loop
I Respect a good billy cause I know he is hard to play, I respect a good leatherface because he is easy to Loop, I respect a good Huntress cause it takes time to Master Hatchets and predict where to throw hatchets
Spirit on the other hand takes a Good Headphones to Master, Phase, Hit, Phase Hit
No game to her, the entire game is about the Chase, if you have a good headphones, you need nothing else, Just Phase and Hit
Her addons are just as annoying, she already move faster, no lets make her supersonic, she have a noise while phasing, no lets make it silent for easy grabs
Ruin, Pop, BBQ and you are good to go for a 4k
Spirit is an easy killer for noobs who doesnt know how to break a loop, as simple as that!
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Did you even read the Spirit changes? They're not even changing that much.
You can still stand still at a pallet and a survivor will have to guess what you're actually doing, cause "Muh mindgamez lul".
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But clown is OP man, those toxic bottles are extremely painful. That gas area is a no go. Clown just ain't it chief. (Complete sarcasm by the way)
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As far as spirit she never bothered me as a survivor. If she changes oh well and if not oh well.
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survivors dont like challenges they like to bully m1 killers so of course they are gonna hear them they never EVER listen to what killers have to say.,
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Insta heals, BNP, pallet vacuums, BL, DS, MoM, healing, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.
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