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When a hag puts traps down but face camps

Michiko
Michiko Member Posts: 623
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  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    Well is she supposed to just camp withotu setting up traps? That would be stupid^^

  • brokedownpalace
    brokedownpalace Member Posts: 8,804
    When a Hag uses an ebony mori and Insidious camps the basement but the survivor has Kindred 3.
  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    Were any Survivors chasing her to the hook or otherwise presenting themselves as targets?

  • ChesterTheMolester
    ChesterTheMolester Member Posts: 2,771
    Master said:

    Well is she supposed to just camp withotu setting up traps? That would be stupid^^

    No the point is that the traps serve no purpose if the Hag doesn't move away and in fact closer to the hook then her traps are.
  • Eninya
    Eninya Member Posts: 1,256

    When Hag has Make Your Choice and Mint Rag, so you just sandbag for points because you're not getting out alive.

  • brokedownpalace
    brokedownpalace Member Posts: 8,804
    Here come the diehard killer mains searching for reasons to defend stupid game play.

    "Well, was there another survivor still alive on the map?!"
  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @brokedownpalace said:
    Here come the diehard killer mains searching for reasons to defend stupid game play.

    "Well, was there another survivor still alive on the map?!"

    It's only stupid if there weren't other Survivors around and the gates weren't close to being powered. I don't expect you to understand that, however.

  • Baphomett
    Baphomett Member Posts: 394
    I think the point was that trapping and then hard camping is redundant and silly.
  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @Baphomett said:
    I think the point was that trapping and then hard camping is redundant and silly.

    I've tried trapping and then leaving, but a Survivor with a flashlight followed me to the hook and destroyed the traps before I'd even left.

  • Michiko
    Michiko Member Posts: 623
    Orion said:

    Were any Survivors chasing her to the hook or otherwise presenting themselves as targets?


    No. 
  • Mesme
    Mesme Member Posts: 177

    Now I normally play killer but when I'm survivor against a Hag I just know 100% what they are gonna do because it's so predictable. Traps on Gen check, Traps in loop areas check (sometimes not really most of the time its random areas) and finally traps all around any hooked survivor and guess what? THEY GONNA CAMP TOO!! Swear I hate playing against a Hag because how boring and predictable they are and the funniest thing about them too is they run some pretty meta perks that promote non-camp styles but whatever...

    Like a few minutes ago I went against a camping Hag who had Nurses Calling, BBQ n Chili, Ruin, and Franklins. Now this Hag hooked one guy and instead of going anywhere else or patrolling... camped just trapped them up and camped.

  • brokedownpalace
    brokedownpalace Member Posts: 8,804

    Orion said:

    @brokedownpalace said:
    Here come the diehard killer mains searching for reasons to defend stupid game play.

    "Well, was there another survivor still alive on the map?!"

    It's only stupid if there weren't other Survivors around and the gates weren't close to being powered. I don't expect you to understand that, however.

    Lolk.
  • Esheon
    Esheon Member Posts: 568
    Mesme said:

    Now I normally play killer but when I'm survivor against a Hag I just know 100% what they are gonna do because it's so predictable. Traps on Gen check, Traps in loop areas check (sometimes not really most of the time its random areas) and finally traps all around any hooked survivor and guess what? THEY GONNA CAMP TOO!! Swear I hate playing against a Hag because how boring and predictable they are and the funniest thing about them too is they run some pretty meta perks that promote non-camp styles but whatever...

    Like a few minutes ago I went against a camping Hag who had Nurses Calling, BBQ n Chili, Ruin, and Franklins. Now this Hag hooked one guy and instead of going anywhere else or patrolling... camped just trapped them up and camped.

    Those are just bad Hags.

    One trap at the hook, maybe. No traps at gens. Every single safe loop on at least half of the map? You better believe it's trapped.

    Make Your Choice, Monitor & Abuse, Nurse's, and one match-slowing perk of your choice. For the last one, I prefer Knock Out against solo queue or Sloppy Butcher against SWF. Some people like Ruin instead. For addons, an insect and an egg (range and duration).

    If the hook trap goes off I may teleport, or I may not. Did MYC proc? Is the person I'm chasing about to go down? Do i have someone downed already? Is it more important to knock those other two survivors off that gen? Which way is the phantasm looking? Can I cut them off without teleporting and herd them into a trap I can ITH from?
  • Mesme
    Mesme Member Posts: 177

    @Esheon said:
    Mesme said:

    Now I normally play killer but when I'm survivor against a Hag I just know 100% what they are gonna do because it's so predictable. Traps on Gen check, Traps in loop areas check (sometimes not really most of the time its random areas) and finally traps all around any hooked survivor and guess what? THEY GONNA CAMP TOO!! Swear I hate playing against a Hag because how boring and predictable they are and the funniest thing about them too is they run some pretty meta perks that promote non-camp styles but whatever...

    Like a few minutes ago I went against a camping Hag who had Nurses Calling, BBQ n Chili, Ruin, and Franklins. Now this Hag hooked one guy and instead of going anywhere else or patrolling... camped just trapped them up and camped.

    Those are just bad Hags.

    One trap at the hook, maybe. No traps at gens. Every single safe loop on at least half of the map? You better believe it's trapped.

    Make Your Choice, Monitor & Abuse, Nurse's, and one match-slowing perk of your choice. For the last one, I prefer Knock Out against solo queue or Sloppy Butcher against SWF. Some people like Ruin instead. For addons, an insect and an egg (range and duration).

    If the hook trap goes off I may teleport, or I may not. Did MYC proc? Is the person I'm chasing about to go down? Do i have someone downed already? Is it more important to knock those other two survivors off that gen? Which way is the phantasm looking? Can I cut them off without teleporting and herd them into a trap I can ITH from?

    Pretty good strats but yeah guess the majority of players that I've faced don't know how to play Hag or are just bad Hags all around.

  • Eninya
    Eninya Member Posts: 1,256

    I don't trap gens or hooks. I trap pathways to funnel survivors where I want, such as easily countered loops or windows.

    Trapping gens is pointless. Most survivors will crouch at gens with a Hag, and almost never run by them during chases, and that's most often where you'll find people while hunting.

    Trapping hooks is also pointless--you want to trap paths, so that their only safe running option narrows it down to catch people for Make Your Choice, or just in general. EG: You see an injured survivor running, you know the other survivor is still very close by, etc. And then you have your pick of who to get.

    The more your traps are spread, the more they will surprise survivors when they're not always where they expect.

  • brokedownpalace
    brokedownpalace Member Posts: 8,804
    Hags require more thinking and strategy. If they make a mistake it can be more costly because of the lower speed and poorer line of sight (than a Hillbilly who can correct that same mistake in like 3 seconds, for instance). I think the bad Hags are just testing her out, working on an achievement or doing a daily ritual. I can't imagine somebody who can't figure her out using her for more than a few games.
  • Esheon
    Esheon Member Posts: 568
    Hags require more thinking and strategy. If they make a mistake it can be more costly because of the lower speed and poorer line of sight (than a Hillbilly who can correct that same mistake in like 3 seconds, for instance). I think the bad Hags are just testing her out, working on an achievement or doing a daily ritual. I can't imagine somebody who can't figure her out using her for more than a few games.
    Well, the poor play is often rewarded by overly-altruistic survivors dive-bombing the hook. Many survivors have failed to learn that they need to teach killers to not camp, rather than rewarding them for it.
  • Envees
    Envees Member Posts: 370

    Am i wrong in saying that some of hags traps have collision? I seemed to rem reading about one of her addons that stated the phantasm will have collision box.

    If so then they could be attempting to body block the hook with the traps and staying to make sure they die. They dont have to leave the hook you know. Its only the survs who say we have to.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @Michiko said:
    No. 

    Yeah, that was a bad move, tactically speaking.

  • switch
    switch Member Posts: 489

    ez 4 gens