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The Shape's add-ons piss me off
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You are aware that Perma Tier 3 only happens if your team allows him to get enough evil to begin with right? And the amount he needs to gain is huge
Also Judith's Tombstone makes him a slower killer.
Those addons are strong and they should remain as such. Stop asking for counterplay on things that literally already has counterplay or setbacks for the killer.
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You do realise you cant avoid looking at him forever right? I main killer it's not hard or insanely long to get to perma tier 3. Once in that there's no counter play besides running some god like loops and that's not counter play . Also nothing is worse then being randomly chosen to be the dead player because guess who got picked last for the little bit of stalk he needed.
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This is the bug reports section. @Rizzo90 @MandyTalk
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I mean, if I have Judith's Journal and Furtive Chase on, I can mori 2 or even people fairly easily, or get tier 3 in a very reasonable time frame with either addon. That said, I don't know if I'd consider it OP or not. It does negate the time frame for both a lot though.
That said, this isn't a bug report.
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I'm replying to this one instead of the one with the description since this one has replies.
Yes, infinite Tier 3 Mikey is difficult and that's why they made it hard to achieve, can he be countered? Well you implement the same strategies you would ever Killer, every Killer in this entire game, I say this because he has no real uniqueness to his that makes him differen't. For example he has no speed like Spirit or Billy, no long range weapons, he just walks up to you and smacks you, the only counter to him is exactly what you would do for Ghostface, Trapper, Pig, every Killer who just swings forward.
I personally hate how boring Mikey's add-ons are, also if you're a Killer main why are you complaining? Why are you asking how to counter yourself, in your other post you say everyone says Gen rush him but that sounds like someone playing Survivor would say. I understand if you care about Survivors but I ask again, why do you care?
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I used main killer and got tired of all the garbage you get put through. I dont think he needs a nerf, he just sucks to play as and play against. No fun. He needs to be reworked to be fun for both. Also By god I dont want killer nerfs we all know they suck already. I just want it to be fun for both survivor and killer
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it's not hard or insanely long to get to perma tier 3
Most of the times Myers gets tiers III when 2 gens remain, that's a lotta time.
Once in that there's no counter play
Looping maybe? Not camping the pallet and pre-puling it down? Also gen rushing is the counter, if you're playing with stupid team mates who give free stalk, then that's not an addon issue.
Also nothing is worse then being randomly chosen to be the dead player because guess who got picked last for the little bit of stalk he needed.
If you're smart enough you can easily tell when Myers got the infinte tier III (or the infinite+tombstone), so you should be more aware of what you're facing
@HatCreature if you're a Killer main why are you complaining?
Spoiler alert, he's not a killer main.
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Aw shucks I was trying to lead him on lol I was setting up my smart ass replies 😅
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I think you're missing what I'm saying. I'm not saying hes op or needs a nerf I'm saying it's not fun to play against or play as. You loop him like normal and when you play him you play M1 killer except stalk. Add-ons take that experience and make it ten times worse. My fault for the rant sounding like that. Also I did main killer till rank 6 just quit after I got tired of survivor #########. Literally never want any killer to be nerfed.
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I swear to god if survivor mains starting whinging about shape nerfs then there will be hell to raise. Just get good and stop whinging
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However it is a gimmick build
Hell it's pretty much the only build where furtive chase actually useful and it's not even because of the actual effects of the perk it's more of the side effects than anything else
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Why does it say M now?
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Lockers>tombstone
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Oh no! Please nobody share an opinion he disagrees with.
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Imagine thinking Furtive Chase does anything at all.
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Why don't you just try it and see? Just because you have a problem with the perk does not mean it has no uses.
It's probably the most effective Myers build for using Tombstone or Fragrant Tuft of Hair. You get 15% faster stalk rate from stalking your obsession than J. Myers Memorial, on everyone who unhooks your obsession. 99% your obsession, hook them, pop EW3 on the other person, kill them, if you manage to kill someone else, cool, if not, then let them unhook your obsession, 99% new obsession, repeat. That's with Tombstone. Funny thing is, you only need one, maybe one and a half obsessions to get 200% stalk with Judith's Journal, and both Tombstone and Fragrant Tuft of Hair increase stalk to 200%. you can get this quite easily if you want to. Stalk almost goes normal speed on your obsession.
As for Furtive Chase, we've seen multiple killers find good uses for it, and I enjoy using it for easy 4 stacks of Remember Me on Freddy, when I run Remember Me. The obsession changing is the best use of the perk imo. Unless you're using it on Dark Devotion Legion, but even then, the obsession changing helps keep DD in effect longer.
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Don't heal, do gens, hop in lockers if it's tombstone. This isn't hard to understand.
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But again that highlights a major problem with the Perk people aren't actually using it for it's intended use.
Mainly because for the most part its intended use is crippled by its restrictions.
1) Requiring you to be in a chase
2) Having a token limit of 4
3) Losing everything if your obsession dies
That's three restrictions for one benefit
It's the side effects of the perk that's actually making it relatively useful.
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Well before Freddy was reworked Monto managed to get 0 TR both inside and outside of a chase meaning he could see their auras from any distance. I'd imagine you could do close to the same with Myers, in tier 2 anyways.
As for the other thing. changing the obsession nearly guarantees the perk will not be gone until you've killed at least 2 people in most situations. I don't think that's too bad.
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But that's old Freddy whether the perk worked well with him is kind of irrelevant now.
Once again changing the obsession is still a side effect of the perk so the unnecessary restriction doesn't make the perk completely irrelevant. It's not meant to be the main effect of the perk.
Also considering remember me is not a hard perk to stack having the obsessive switch doesn't really do anything. The maximum stacks you can get it's for that is literally two chases.
If the obsession had time to heal you have practically guaranteed to have your four Stacks whilst they're on second hook. While with furtive chase you could potentially get your stacks quicker.
Stacks aren't relevant until endgame meaning even if you do get them quicker then they're just sitting there until the gates are powered.
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The reason I bring Furtive Chase is because it guarantees I find my obsession again. Sometimes you just don't find your obsession after hooking them and you only get 2 stacks. In addition sometimes they don't heal, making stacking Remember Me harder. If I want max stacks, Furtive Chase makes it where I get 4 stacks every game without fail. It's helped me a lot when I bring Remember Me. It also allows you to not be forced to tunnel your obsession into oblivion. I don't like playing like that.
As for the In Chase terror radius reduction, I think people don't respect it because you don't really get any feedback from it. You don't know if it's really doing anything for you or not.
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Fair.
In my opinion it's still a terrible perk but if you find value in it then at least that's something good
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You can find value in any perk if you look hard enough. =p
I like use Distressing for Spirit, so that they don't hear my whoosh as often, for example. You basically have Prayer Beads, and you get more BP for it, lol.
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Truer words have never been spoken
Perks like no mither helps my injured builds and play with your food is great on my Wraith
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Can't really take this post seriously. If he gets perma Tier 3, it's kind of your fault for feeding him.
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Hes actually one of the most popular killers in the game, both to play as and against.
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