Devs, Can we leave Spirit's collision untouched?

The collision only gave The Spirit free hits on survivors unlucky enough to bump into her while she was invisible. This will only increase her skillceiling (even if it isn't by much).

I dont mind. When i run into someone during a phase it always messes me up, otherwise the sounds do more for me to locate people than any collision can. The only time collision was a positive was gen grab build which these changes gutted.

Biggest nerf was the post phase lunge. Also RIP Yakuyoke Amulet, no one is using that thing now.

Precisely my thoughts.

That'll remain to be seen. It might be similar to when myers stalks where he loses collision but can still be stunned.

They won't have a problem, plenty of killers already turn off collision, when Michael or ghostface stalk they have no collision, and when a killer hits a survivor, so you can stand inside a stalking Michael and if he stops, you still stand in him, and if either of you move, there is no collision until you are fully seperate.

Not at all.

Collision gave people free hits for no reason. You just bumped into someone who you didn't know was there, or you would've already unphased to hit them.

Getting a gen grab and removing 1/3 of a survivor's game with 0 chance to react isn't "a sweet jump scare," it's an utterly unfair and frustrating event that removes all chance for survivors to actually show any skill at the game. (And no, bringing a mandatory perk to play fairly against a killer is not an acceptable balancing-point.)

At the very least now, you still have a chance to guess the correct side of the gen, and if not it's still a scare to have her appear directly on top of you whether it's a grab or not.

Well, speaking as someone who can confidently call themselves a Spirit main now, collision would often give me a hit on a survivor I didn't deserve because I randomly bumped into them while not even knowing they were there, or I would bump into someone right before I was already going to end my phasing, which is a bit silly honestly.

On the flip side, collision has kind of annoyed me when I phase through a pallet and someone is camping it, you end your phasing, and then before you can M1 them you get pallet stunned.

Now imagine that scenario without collision.

I can now walk through the survivor and hit them outside of the pallet so they can't stun me.

Even better, I now don't have to walk around debris to make a guess on which side of the pallet they're going to drop it on. I can literally, with a snap of my fingers, make a quick guess with no collision by simply walking through them and choosing a side.

But wait, why even guess? No collision means the survivor has zero feedback on when to drop the pallet.

Collision means from the survivor's perspective, the moment they feel collision, they drop the pallet and Spirit gets stunned. No collision doesn't give them that opportunity and now it becomes a guessing game for them of when to drop the pallet on top of which side to drop it on.

I feel like many aren't seeing how powerful that is in a chase, though. Too much focus on free hits via collision while ignoring how much more power goes to the Spirit player in certain chase scenarios.

You should still be able to get gen grabs even with this change. If you hear people working on a gen and they're not stopping, appear and you can see where they are and get a grab in time.

Bumping into survivors by accident and being unable to retrace your steps vs Spirit is not good gameplay.