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Compromise
Every killer hates DS, and every survivor hates NOED. Why don't we just get rid of both of them completely. I actively run DS as part of my survivor build, and get blocked from ever getting a chance to use it. I got tunnelled and face camped roughly 17 matches in a row yesterday (not joking), and all I'm doing is trying to complete my tome challenges. As a killer I never run NOED it just rewards failure, a killer who would of got 0 kills could end up getting a 4k. All survivors hate it but most just don't cleanse totems. But still killer mains talk about momentum shifts, seriously NOED popping up on the left side of the screen is a big momentum shift. It makes survivors panic somewhat into making really quick stupid decisions.
Or people who don't play both evenly could shut up and stop complaining because the game isn't easy. Seriously it's a game my god grow up. Killers can have some really OP not fun to face perks, power add-ons, and offerings. Like the Ebony Mori which requires no skill. Survivors are the same with there OP items, add-ons and perks. But the biggest difference is the skill that 1 side will have over the other just practice and adapt, this game does get easier on you. Especially once you figure out that none of it really matters since it's JUST A GAME. :)
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That's not really a compromise if you get hit with noed its entirely your fault as a survivor but as killer if your too efficient you'll get hit with ds since you did too well they aren't comparable at all
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Whoooosh
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Yep
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So if we deleted these what perks would fill the gap?
And Noed is good against gen rushers but not against totem crashers.
DS is good against killers for 60 seconds so don’t tunnel them Duh or just down them and leave em.
I agree with the mori maybe make it after everyone is hooked once.
I also got wrecked with 8 moris and face campers/ tunnelers.
It feels bad but you have to learn that everything has counterplay.
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You must have missed the point.
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They seem to be all missing the point XD
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Both perks have counters.
I play both roles and don't see any problem with these perks.
Cleanse totems and don't tunnel or simply slug and you're completely fine. Or just eat the DS and procee with the game, it's not a big deal. Unless you get genrushed, but then you should probably slug a bit anyway I guess.
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Exactly ;)
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The problem I have with this is even though its just a game it's frustrating as a person who plays both sides because I get stressed out playing killer and I can relax as survivor
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I'm the exact opposite (meaning I can relax as killer), and I'm not saying it's not frustrating. I do get somewhat upset that I got tunnelled and face camped. But it still is just a game after all that doesn't matter. Just have fun as much as possible and move on.
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I can't say I really hate either. As the killer, I just try to pay attention to who was recently unhooked. As a survivor, I know that if I don't do totems, I'm risking NOED and play cautiously until I know the killer doesn't have it. They don't bother me so much because there's room for me to play around them.
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I wouldnt remove either as I pretty much rely on DS as a solo survivor. What I would do is actually make it to anti tunnel perk. Not 60 seconds of immunity what it currently is.
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I don't like DS because there is no real counterplay to it. I'm fine with the anti tunneling aspect of it, but when everyone bloody has it or they all pick the same looking survivor it's like you are just eating stun after stun after stun and it's frustrating.
It was way worse the way it used to be though; compared to that this one is fine.
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Yeah but you do have dhead killers who just want to target someone and then slug them because of DS to avoid it and kill the person at least with a 60 second timer it buys time for the other survivors to have a chance
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YEP thats the problem with ds, is anti momentum perk let the survivors reset when the killer is doing good.
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Noed is dead..detectives hunch kills every totem perk
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Don't tunnel. Slug them to buy some time. That's the DS counter.
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noed is your own fault if every survior did 1 totem it would not even activate (someone probably did 2)
ds is fine as it is just slug them like i do i have no problem with it
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DEAL!!!
JUST REMOVE THESE TWO PERKS!!
As a player who played bothside but like killer side more.
I can tell you that Ds is way way way more powerful than noed.
I mean "you can tunnel people" and "you can one shoot people in the end game" which side is more powerful for killer is really simple to anwser.
So yes!
Please!
Just make the deal plz.
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NOED is fine, just complete your secondary objective (ie. cleanse totems)
DS is in a better place than it was, but still somewhat troublesome for reasons that have been explained countless times before.
I wouldn't say they are comparable. I'd much rather get rid of Adrenaline.
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