Why do people don't like playing against Bubba?

Camping isn't fun and I don't see how it's suited to camping. His chainsaw is an AoE weapon. That should mean that a perk like Discordance and running directly into a group of survivors should be his thing. Not sitting next to a damn hook making the unlucky person he found first regret their life choices.

He's the best at camping and survivors don't like camping. Pretty simple. If he decides he doesn't want you off the hook, he can just stand around with his chainsaw revved.

Your supposed to get close before a chainsaw, that thing has no range. Also he has the weakest insta down in the game so idk why that's annoying. But yes camping leatherfaces are very frustrating to go against.

Isn't that a good thing? It means you can get further before the instant down can get you increasing your Survival odds.

You would think, but no. I have tried it, and it doesn't work. He gets that speed boost when he launches his attack. Negating any momentum I've built up.

Well, yeah. But I'm always near a rock or tree that he CONVENIENTLY ignores.

If I was on PC, and they were purple ranks, I'd be inclined to believe you.

However, this is generally Xbox at green and trust me. That chainsaw animation is clearly over that concrete barricade or in that tree. And that is for me, the absolute biggest problem.

Because people lose to Bubba and then feel bad about themselves for losing to an absolute bottom tier killer.

Bubba is just one of those killers that rubs you the wrong way.

Also, without warning he can choose to face camp a survivor and at that point there's zero chance of being rescued.

Guess Bubba is OP now, insta down is too OP and needs to be nerfed!1!1!!

WHY (some) PEOPLE DISLIKE PLAYING AS AND AGAINST BUBBA (the long story):

There's little room for mistakes when playing Bubba IF you are going against decent (not even elite) survivors because his whole concept is all about getting loads of instadowns throughout the game due to the fact he has NOTHING ELSE going for him (base). No tracking (i.e. Doctor), no stealth (i.e. Ghostface), no mobility (i.e. Hillbilly), no gen stall (i.e. Pig), no (actual) anti-loop (i.e. Spirit) etc.

Now here's the thing. His base range is a lousy 15 meters that you cover with a combination of a speed DEFICIT of 86.25% and a slightly above average speed of 126% (end animation). This means -combined with his base charge time of just over 8 meters of survivor running distance- that many people who pick him up will struggle to get instadowns throughout the game during a chase especially without decent addons IF survivors manage to route between pallets and windows efficiently.

As a result Bubba may quickly turn into a killer with no power. In some aspects his power can even cause chases to take longer than they should.

A common mistake is bumping into objects resulting in his relatively long tantrum-stun AND revving up the chainsaw whilst moving towards a pallet. Experienced survivors will just keep running causing the Bubba player to lose distance due to the speed deficit of 86.25% that kicks in while revving the chainsaw resulting in longer pallet looping.

This causes frustration on the Bubba player's end and makes them eventually just camp everyone they catch.

Good chainsaw control (using it at high distances and successfully steering through doors or other narrow spots while keeping only inches of distance to walls and objects without actually bumping into stuff) should be rewarded imo but since that's not the case everyone will just have to live with the fact that there's only 3 kinds of Bubbas:

1) the frustrated facecamper

2) that guy who took his time to master the chainsaw for whatever reason

3) the meme Bubba who will defend his chest with his life.

He's ability is a crutch. You don't have a pallet or window near you and your on the hook

*slaps knee*

Ahahahahahah!

Tell me another!

Most Bubba's I run into a cute little tunnelers and campers, In most of my games as survivor I usually take the responsibility of running him mostly because I don't care to die, and I know I can last longer than my randoms.

99% of Bubbas hold the game hostage for that one survivor they managed to hook. A lot of them run Iron Grasp and try to take you to the basement, and the ones that don't bring an ebony and crab walk from one area to another while staring you down at the hook.

Insidious.

thats why

He's suited for camping because survivors can't get an unhook against him using brute force. He HAS to leave the hook if you want to get a successful unhook.

You can get an unhook against most other killers if your whole team swarms the hook, because they have a cooldown between hits. But Leatherface's power doesn't have a cooldown between hits, so it doesn't matter how many survivors try to swarm the hook, they're all going to get downed.

Meh, spirit fury just shows he doesnt know how to get those hits in. Just because he has spirit fury and enduring as 2 of his perks, doesnt mean one of his other 2 isnt insidious, lol.

I know this is an old post but I have a number of issues with it. Nothing personal, sorry.

1: Without speed boosts from perks or add-ons, Bubba's chainsaw is very cumbersome to use. Getting up close and personal is the right call most of the time.

2: Ditto for it being brainlessly easy to use, that's just not the case. It might not require a PhD in Chainsaw Physics like Hillbilly, but he still slows down on the rev and the speed doesn't come back until near the end of the attack's channel. It's very easy for Bubba to loop himself by revving at the wrong time vs a good survivor.

3: That squealing is one of Bubba's trademarks, it was minted on the big screen in 1974. It's been around longer than most of this forum's posters have been alive. Like the name of his flick implies, he is a mentally challenged Southerner from an inbred family of cannibals. Leatherface isn't just drawing on a stereotype, he's part of the reason it exists.

All that said, yeah. I imagine most people dislike Bubba because he's designed to camp. His instant down isn't actually all that great in a chase vs experienced survivors and hook rescues are pretty much the only time when you can take advantage of the chainsaw's AoE.

Bubba is both rewarded for camping by having a power that's good at it and punished for not camping by having a power that sucks at everything else.

I get the whole inbread Southerners stereotype kinda started with him, but it's just the frequency I hear it.

I also had a thread how I said that I'm fine with Hillbilly and Leatherface having a chainsaw and their overall ability, except for the instant down. If they didn't just instant down you, I'd be fine with his camping style kit.

I have found spirit fury good for only one or two hits in the match but if a Bubba is running it, he feels comfortable with just those extra one or two hits. Maybe he won't be tryhard face camping maybe he will. All I know is the insidious, moonshrine? agitation, iron grasp build isn't the most dreaded version. The most boring perhaps but DC worthy?

I can't count how many times I've hung defeated on the hook wanting death against a ghost face who is proxy camping me, who only "got" me because he was proxy camping the previous guy. I feel like there are less blatant versions but all the more effective.