i refuse to give any sympathy to killers who think the role is hard while blatant camping exists.

it's not really camping if the survivors try to hook rush Infront of your eye balls that's called the survivors being a dumbass

Most big killer content creators are at low ranks, do scummy tactics blatantly, or are just great at killer (Monto vs Otzdarva) Not to mention they aren't going to upload their terrible games. They won't post a bunch of boring loser games.

Playing killer (when the survivors are somewhat skilled+) is hard. You have to play optimally nearly the entire game while half the survivors time is spent getting on gens and not missing skill checks. Survivors take turns doing the hard part and killers simply can't. And if one survivor is good enough at looping time is wasted and the games over before it started.

I main Trapper and the vast majority of trials I take in 2 generator slow/regression perks cause I can never have enough time. The whole '5 gens can get done in 3 minutes' thing is exaggerated. That won't happen if your trying... But that doesn't negate my point at all. Realistically if you make a mistake as killer it could cost you a generator, which could cost another, which could cost the game. If you don't keep significant pressure up the game is over before it has even started.

All this being said is assuming your aren't at low ranks or playing blatantly scummy (which can still turn out with a terrible loss).

You can camp a hook and (possibly) secure a single kill. Even when you sit an inch from the hook, you can still lose the kill. If you feel the need to take to the forums to QQ, just don't play the game.

Killer is hard, survivor is hard too. The game is ranked and it will eventually get harder because you'll run into smarter players. These forums seem to be overrun by players that want to win more consistently, but don't want to take advantage of the current meta. Quit whining and do more gens/make more hooks.

Run borrowed time and DS if camping is such an issue for you. Just because you come across campers doesn’t mean the killer role isn’t more difficult.

Play some killers games and see for yourself.

@MightyDwight

Please list killers that have gone from viable to “non-viable”. Nurse and Upcoming Spirit are still viable.

Also that would suggest that the only way to play Wraith... a killer which I main (P3 with 2.9k hrs) is only viable if you camp with him which is simply not true.

You are forgetting that there is a huge skill gap in this game that either no one cares to admit or no one is talking about. So in that case yes someone with less skill will feel more inclined to camp, but that has nothing to do with the killer’s ability to perform.

Even the best killers in the game eventually complain or find something in the game they dislike, being bad isn't necessarily causation of complaining as everyone does it. Of course it makes sense that a content creator that plays the game for several hours a day is going to do way better than the average player because it's literally their job (in the case of streamers). They'll still have rough games though and they will even admit that there are some games where you simply cannot win even if those cases aren't exactly common.

That being said, while I do think camping is very unfun, you shouldn't base your opinion of all killers just because of the ones that camp the hook. Some killers actively make it their goal to play as nice as possible for as long as they can by leaving the hook immediately, not tunneling or camping and for the most part don't typically run extremely powerful addons and those are the killers who are in line for a rough game despite wanting to ensure a more enjoyable experience for all 5 players in the trial instead of just themselves.

Well depending on the survivors they either force the killer to camp or the killer is setting up for the incoming bum rush on the hook with information provided by BBQ or Whispers

Agree that camping is lazy and dont need any effort or skill but its a part of your own fault too if ppl die to camping. Just dont stay for years next to the hook and wait for a unhook, try to do a risky save infront of the killer with borrow or just do gens, not hard.

Doesn't always help if the killer really wants you dead.

Once played against a clown who ate BT, DS and BL and still tunned me to death even though there were other targets right infront of him, trying to block and gens got done. He tunneled me because I played Nea (I asked him why he did that).

These perks give a little more time but they don't necessarily rescue you. I don't encounter killers with a heavy tunnel vision like that often, but if a killer really really wants you dead, there's not much you can do.

I consistently got 0k's playing as Trapper, with 1-2 perks, no addons (trying him out). I had no qualms about it. They didn't teabag and were efficient. I gave all four props, and in every game for all the players that deserved it.

I've gotten 0k's playing as Shape, with a damn-good-slow-gen build and solid addons. Still gave props, still no teabags.

My eyes were dry the whole time because I'm not thinking on one dimension. Camping has existed in one form or another in literally every competitive activity, it's not going away.