DELETE MF INSIDIOUS...
Delete Bubba too while you are at it. I havent seen one Leatherface who didnt insidious camp.
Edit1: I had spinechill. It's not about me not knowing that he is there camping. It's about the fact that every single person in that match will most likely depip and nobody absolutely nobody will have any fun. Except bubba whose sole purpose in that match was to get revenge for god knows what. I hope that clears everything up.
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Or...Or..hear me out...
Just assume Leatherface is nearby and don't blindly run in for a save? I mean..just use your eyes and brain and think ahead. Free food = trap.
Or yell for nerfs/deletes. That works too..
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It doesnt change the fact that i dont enjoy playing gen simulator
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The new Kindred will help, it won't counter anything but you'll know not to go for the save.
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Wait... People are still falling for Insidious hook camping Bubba? It's almost 2020.
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Yeah but Insidious now grants Undetectable, making you immune to aura reading.
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Insidious will be changed in patch 3.4 to also have the undetectable status, you wont be able to see their aura, but you can probably use the above mentioned (brain) to figure out whats going on.
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I mean he only insidious camps if you insult his family, so you probably deserved it.
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But you sure enjoy the game if Dev decided to get killer a free kill if they get rushed, right?
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Its not about falling for it. Its there being no game. Everybody suicides vs that
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"yell for nerfs/deletes. that works to...." yep just look at spirit
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I dont want it nerfed it serves no purpose, but to camp... Delete it or rework it its that simple and if you think this perk is good and healthy for the game then i have no words for you kind sir.
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I wish that was the reason
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I was running DH, QQ, Head on and spine chill, Again its not about me falling for it... Its about there being no game because people suicide on hook which leads to very short and unpleasing game which no one likes
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I literally put a post about how to stop gen rushing by having 4th survivor die before last gen can be done... So you have nothing on me
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Again it doesnt matter if you can see him, if he is there... People will suicde on hook and the game is 3 minutes long with everybody depiping
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It sucks but campers will always find a way to camp anyways. If the devs actually removed Bubba and Insidious every dedicated camper would just switch to Hillbilly. The devs would literally have to make it so a killer gets teleported to the moon to stop a "determined hook camper" from camping. So I'm not sure what to tell you. Those matches suck but luckily it's a fairly rare thing.
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That explains why Kindred got a buff, I suppose. Will killers like Pig who are using just stealth to camp the hook still show up with Kindred? If not I don't even know why Kindred has the killer aura then, lol.
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I guess it depends on rank, really. If I see a Leatherface take someone in the basement I make sure to see if he's on anyone before making the save or try to spot him on the map.
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I am for it. After 5 seconds of insidious killer gets sent outside of the walls
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I think undetectable counters every aura perk so probably not
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Farming is even less enjoyable
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I love that you're not saying hook suicides need to be addressed. No. It's the Killer being mean for making them wuss out.
It's not a SURVIVORS fault for ragequitting. It's the KILLERS fault for making them unhappy.
That's the toxic Survivor-main mindset in a nutshell.
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In the given scenario you really are going to imply that insdiious camping is ok. Then procede with your propaganda about survivors suiciding on hooks...
Even if you wanted to fix suiciding on hook you cant. Even if you wanted to go as far as to ban people for it... How are you going to detect it? YOu cant program it so that everybody who stops struggling gets a ban, because sometimes you forget to press that button or your fingerslips or you are the last one on hook, etc...
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Don't forget lag spikes. Killed me pretty often during struggle phase. The screen freezes for a second and boom you're dead. 😒
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I just dont like to argue/ talk to people like him i make reasonable request and he turns it into how survivors need to be put responsible for leaving games like that by suicidng
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Honestly I am against camping, but when DBD makes a perk for it (promoting it basically) there's not much to be done about it. It's just really confusing because devs have said BBQ was made to stop camping killers, yet you still have a perk for camping. I still can't figure out if they want camping in their game or not, if not they should probably change the Insidious perk. lol
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I think Insidious is a bad perk because camping is a bad tactic in 90% of cases.
But I also think that people wussing out because someone is playing a map/killer/perk/perk combo/tactic need to grow TF up or stop playing PvP games. Not every match is going to go your way, and no, you don't deserve to dictate what people can use or how they can play. And no, your fun does not matter more than your 3 partners.
When you're a toddler, you're taught not to flip a boardgame just because you lose. DCing/Hook Suicide is just flipping the board for the internet age. People who do it need to grow up or stop playing multiplayer games.
And I can fix hook suicides:
1) Kobe-ing has a cooldown. You can no longer just spam it 3 times in 3 seconds & get to stage 2. You get hurt and stop moving for a bit when you try to Kobe & fail (injury being the reason why your struggle bar empties a bit, after all)
2) Make Phase 2 Struggling Automatic. No one likes mashing their spacebar/moving a joystick. From now on, struggling is automatic. Once the Hatch has appeared/the Exit Gates are powered, you can press & hold a button to give up. It takes 2 seconds of holding (to prevent accidental presses).
Bam! No more speeding to Phase 2 & dying. Even if you speed to Phase 2, you're character is forced to struggle unless there's a REASON to suicide (hatch being visible, gates being powered)
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The problem is they dont know what to change it too. Thats it
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Insidous camping is literally flipping the boardgame...
Struggling should have been automatic since the begining.
How would making it pause inbetween trying to kobe help?
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Literally this. If it's a Leatherface who took someone too the basement, and you haven't seen/heard him since, don't run into the basement blindly. Just look around before entering,
Honestly if you fall for Insidious Leatherface you brought it on yourself. He's a giant with a yellow apron, you can't miss him.
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If you go for unhooker and arent one shotting them? Sure, but as it stands nobody besides you is doing it. It should be removed from bubba tho, because the only people who run it on him are camping and tunneling
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The reason hook suiciders kobe is to force Phase 2 so they can give up & die as fast as possible.
By forcing a cooldown on Kobe attempts, you're forcing them to wait longer to hit Phase 2.
Couple that with the inability to give up if you're the first one on the hook (hence hatch needing to be visible to give up) unless first hook is in end game (hence gates needing to be powered instead to give up) and people who wuss out have to take so long to do it that they may as well NOT wuss out.
And no, Insidious camping is not getting upset and leaving the game. It's literally not.
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I feel like i said it 5 times already. It doesnt matter if i fall for it or not. Even if he person on hook doesnt sucide and we do all the gens in the mean time nobody will even safety pip... Pointless match...
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Different things mate. Spirit did need nerfs too her addons. You could argue the devs took it too far (shocker) but she needed nerfs/changes.
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I dont have problem with any of it. I dont want to play vs campers thats it
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You should easily be able too get a safety if you do 5 gens. And even if you somehow don't safety off of gens alone, doing totems grants rank points, so you should be fine. Calling for a nerf/removal of a perk because it's boring/annoying is silly.
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The problem with spirit is that the nerf did absolutely nothing. Stridor on her is godlike. You cant really play around it that much.
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Guess what? I don't want to play against 4-man tryhard SWF groups with 4 meta loadouts plus a mix of toolkits & medkits.
..But I do. And I don't quit the match like a wuss just because I don't have fun for one match or people used perks I don't like.
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I created a similar post last year mate lol trust me venting your frustrations on the forums never help.
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Not everyone. Sometimes I run Insidious to protect generators.
In this video you can even see someone was hooked yet I used Insidious to hide next to the 90% generator instead to jumpscare the survivor who was about to finish it.
Most people -especially Bubbas- use it to hook-camp, though which is unfortunate since it can be such a good jumpscare perk.
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Then play a different game.
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They want camping to be an option, but they want it to be a very high risk versus a medium reward.
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you can never fill survival or boldness to 8k.
On top of it you wont fill main objective if you wont do 2,5 gens with someone. So most of the time you wont safety pip
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Dont get me wrong camping should be allowed but there is no point to camp with 5 gens remaining and ruin up
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I prefer 4 swf with full meta and old syriange over camping bubba
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The problem is 99% who play bubba is to punish survivors with insidious camping because they lost last game.
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I've never once been scared from a Insidious camper, mainly because they make it obvious (no survivor being chased or hurt while someone is hooked) what I love about the game is being jump scared from killers like Pig, Myers, GF coming up outta nowhere hitting me or pulling me off gens, popping Hag traps in accident, running into killers in accident (etc) stuff like that. I just this Insidious is lame and and not scary at all. I'd rather the killer come to me chasing me rather than going to the killer knowing they are in one spot camping, that's not what horror is to me and is such a big reason I dislike Insidious, not just because the person being camped is just having to do nothing but hang on a hook, but also it just ruins the game experience. Whenever I thought of camping I always thought of shooting games, but now it's something in a asymmetrical horror game. lol
I mean no disrespect and respect your opinion, I just figured I'd also give my own.
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I know. I got facecamped with the chainsaw in my face a million times myself for literally no reason. But those guys usually are about to quit the game anyways. Nobody camps at the start of the match for fun (I think). They typically do it because they're frustrated so a few camping matches later they're often gone and never seen again anyways. I usually just struggle as long as possible and move on without saying a word because I know the person must be frustrated. Also most of the time there's like 2 gens left by the time I'm dead so all that camping isn't even paying off sometimes which made me feel kinda well despite getting facecamped haha.
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I just wish they'd rework insidious so it's actually good instead of a camping tool.
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Make BT work in killer's radius not just tr. Ez insidious nerf
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