New Solo Survivor concept (looking for feedback)

Thank you. : D

Bloodthirsty: I was thinking standing like 10m or less to a bloodstain will activate it. And yes, you'd have to follow the blood trail to continuously track them. The duration of the aura lasts as long as you're "tracking" the trail. (fits with the ex-killer theme).

Communion: The animation would probably be around 2-3 seconds. It'll be quick.

Unbridled Rage: I originally had the tiers at 30/45/60 seconds, but I realized that was too long and would just be a major detriment to the killer... so I changed it back. I was also thinking of giving a visual cue for it as well, like having arms outstretched or something... It stuns only for the length of the animation, as you get a health state back as well as buying time.

I was going to update it right now because the image needed an update, but I'll add these in there as well.

I would also like to say that Unbridled Rage is a counter to Spirit Fury/Enduring combo as well, since it'll be easier to get the attack off.

I will disagree with you because of this point: just because the entity hasn't done this kind of thing yet doesn't mean it isn't a possibility. This is a concept for a reason. I am looking for genuine feedback, not just a generalization of your opinion.

Bloodthirsty: It helps find injured survivors in a different way to empathy (which is overall better than this perk, but that's another thing). It makes injured survivors more cautious when being "hunted" because they don't know if it's the killer or not until they see who it is. My thought process has always been that survivors shouldn't always be helpful to each other because that makes games unfun for killers... but since disguise killers are confirmed to not be added into the game, this is another method.

Communion: It's never toxic against other survivors, survivors are toxic to killers. Plus it fits with the theme of the character.

Unbridled rage: It's really a punishment for Spirit Fury/Enduring more than anything else, but it has a downside. That being, it's time period is really short, and if the killer is expecting it, then they'll play to that. True, it wastes killer's time with two stuns, the timing has to be just right.

At least I am trying to come up with concepts instead of just complaining.

No you can't. You cannot tell how the entity would act. I would never presume to fathom a lovecraftian entity's thought process, just because there is no way to tell. In this concept, sure, it's intentions are easy to read, but when you think about it, survivors wouldn't know about this.

Bloodthirsty: It does not benefit the killer in any way because the killer can't see the Red Stain or hear the TR (it's in the perk description). It only causes momentary confusion for the injured survivor. That's it.

Communion also works on dead bodies, being a shadownerf to Moris in general, yet nobody mentions this.

That being said, I can understand where you're coming from. That perk is designed to be a solo survivor perk, not an SWF one. Maybe I should buff the broken timer to compensate.

Unbridled Rage: Well, most killers run Enduring/Spirit fury which this perk counters. The easiest way to avoid this is just: don't get stunned by a pallet. That simple.

It also doesn't quite work against instadowns killers or perks either, since you must be injured first. It also wouldn't work on Nurse because Nurses' won't get pallet stunned that often. So it's not as broken as you think it is.

That being said, making it an exhaustion perk might make it more balanced.

They said that... then release DS and Head On. Their words, and their actions are clearly different.

Again, at least I am trying to make something. I have yet to see some kind of beneficial feedback from you instead of just saying it's bad and moving on. If you see a problem, propose a solution, but one that isn't just: Delete this.

Thank you for your support. : )

Do you have any opinions on the concept itself?

Thank you for your questions.

Communion is purely a more selfish perk by design, so yes, she can force them. However, a survivor with Communion must be injured to be able to use it. So a survivor can't just troll and do that to their fellow survivors all the time. It's risk/reward scenario. Either you let them heal you, or you take your chances that they won't be found and bite them. Perhaps having a cooldown would make sense though, since spamming isn't supposed to be what it's for.

No, they can't down a survivor into the dying state with that perk.

On further reflection, I believe Unbridled rage should be an exhaustion perk, since it extends chases, even giving you a health state back.

Well, survivors should be more human like than killers, since that keeps them relatable, but I would be interested in seeing aliens or something like that in the future for possible survivors (they'd be more human like than beings like Demo, though). There are only so many humans you can make for either side in the long run.

Thanks for the compliments!

Ok, first off, I wrote that she treats them like her family, since they all care for each other in their own way. Sure, in the lore, they don't interact often, however, in game they all work together really well. So it's a partial nod to that.

You think turning a killer into a survivor is mercy...? Ok. That's the highest form of delusion.

Being sacrificed literally shaves off a portion of your soul. It devours a part of you during that process. And it's extremely painful. Not to mention the various ways killers can injure/attack you. Getting downed by a chainsaw, hatchets, bear trap, deadly plague... it's one of the most painful things anyone can experience.

Bloodthirsty: I would like some competitor to Empathy. It's a really good perk on it's own, for helping locate survivors. If Bloodthirsty was just Bloodhound but for survivors, then it wouldn't be very good. You'd be surprised how many survivors are across the map after finding blood, especially with the prevalence of Sloppy Butcher.

Communion: True it would be faster. That's because this perk is supposed to mess with survivors, specifically teamwork and trust. They will rush everything, and this will throw a wrench in the gears. This perk's existence alone will make people more suspicious in Solo que, and cause chaos in SWF if they bring it. It's for the solo player to get the "Me above everyone else" mentality which is exemplified in the lore, but not in gameplay.

This perk has also received a change of a 60 second cooldown.

Unbridled Rage: I am a killer player at heart. I know how bad instaheals can be... however, Second wind does essentially the same thing. Besides, this perk wouldn't work against certain killers very well, nor would it work if the killer knows you have it.

This perk has also received a change of a 60 second exhaustion cooldown.

The only reason I bring up that you haven't provided anything is because you don't give any solutions, you don't give any bit of actual feedback. You just say this concept is a problem (I quote: "This concept sucks"). You can disagree with the lore, fine, that's the part that's interpreted by others... however, just dismissing it because of that is a bit much... to the point you give a personal attack... is not the right thing to do.

Your first post: Complaint about the concept and perks. No suggested changes or reworks.

Second post: No suggested changes/reworks. More complaints, with some evidence from Devs. I counter with DS and HO in defense of UR, which has actually become an exhaustion perk that has no cooldown reduction between tier. Communion similarly has received a 60 second cooldown since then.

Third Post: You bring evidence in the form of the questionnaire. They say that "Any killer who looks tortured probably was by the entity". That makes no sense when you consider the Hag. She was eaten alive, and willingly serves the entity. Trapper went mad and killed people... but there is no reference to him ever being tortured by the entity, nor is there any reference to him ever refusing the entity's orders. Doctor added his equipment to himself, Spirit was already like that and eager to get revenge... Almost none of the playable killers have been tortured even though they say they have been. Leatherface is the only one that comes to mind, but even then it seems like it was enough as is.

While it might make sense to just chuck Charlotte into the void instead of making her a survivor... think about it. If a killer had a bond with survivors, how would you best break that bond? Chucking them into the void would be easy, sure, but how about making them see what it's like from their end, so watch as others die, to be unable to help them, to be killed yourself, to see survivors you though you could trust abandon you... wouldn't that be a more fitting way to break a person into what you want?

Sorry, but an artist and author will always create art, no matter what people say. It's our way of contributing to what we enjoy. I'm sorry if my contribution was lost to you.

Besides, if you consider fan chapters a waste of time, then why did you even open this thread?

Thank you!

The devs say that, then add DS and Head On. Words and actions don't line up...

Let me guess... is it with the werewolf one you came up with...? Or is it a new one?

I can help with addons if you want it. But I'm not sure about having Charlotte as the survivor until I know what the killer is...

I was also thinking of making her future self (as killer) to round out the chapter... but if your chapter has potential, maybe I won't.

Thank you. Communion was supposed to have some counterplay with Mori'd bodies. Make Moris have some downside for killers. : P

Ask me again when you have the killer done.

She's designed disrupt survivor teams with selfish perks and general confusion.

Thank you. : )