Who the most overated killer?
For me it´s probably Ghostface, he basically a m1 killer with no terror radius.
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Basic plague. People think that just because everybody is broken she’s strong.
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No matter how bad YOU think a killer is...if someone can get it to work for them, it works. Freddy was my go-to pick long before his rework when the community as a whole agreed he was the worst killer on the list. If I wanted a chance at all though when playing at rank 1...I was picking Fredward.
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Billy, yes hes good but god they say hes the most balanced killer and thats not true... that goes to Freddy.
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Myers. Dudes just an M1 killer, but because of his power everyone wants too make him top 5.
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Hag, everyone just pops her traps when she is carrying someone
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Same
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Definately M1face. This joke of a killer is only praised because of Tru3talent, running a generic stall that any killer can benefit from.
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Definitely Spirirt, she’s annoying
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I don’t think Ghostface is top five like others do but he can still be good.
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Huntress. Unless you’re a 5,000 hour huntress main she’s not really the best killer and really gets hurt by lots of maps.
Everyone loves to put her very high on tier lists but against optimal teams and gens and a bad map she really, really struggles to snowball.
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Ghostface and Billy. I don’t see how Ghostface is anywhere remotely in the Top 5.
Billy is a top tier killer but he is on the lower end. I still believe Hag is better. Billy can get looped easily. Something Nurse, Spirit, and Hag are great at dealing with.
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Huntress. Bad map design and Dedicated Servers make her a living meme. People keep putting her in top 5 for some reason, but I doubt that she is even in top 10 anymore. It's very frustrating to play her most of the time.
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People put her up so high because of the potential. She has a really high skill ceiling, which makes it so it rarely feels like your being held back by the character, but rather by your own ability to land shots.
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Spirit,
she got nerfed because some people don't know how to play against her and simply REFUSE to learn ^^
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Same 2
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Freddy.
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Billy
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??? "Dudes just an M1 killer, but because of his power..." You do realize every killer is just an M1 killer until they consider their power right
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Post nerf, I'd say Nurse. Her map pressure took a huge hit as did her ability to patrol short areas. Yes, if you're a god Nurse, you'll do well. That goes for any killer in B or A tier. I say she's overrated based on observed pick rates. I sincerely doubt people are just choosing not to use the best killer in the game. From my own personal experience, they just made her too hard against good red rank survivors, and that's reflected in the fact that many people are wondering where all the Nurses have gone.
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Tru3talent only got praise for that ridiculous anti-heal build that definitely isn't original on a killer. Usually it's the power a killer has that makes them strong in the eyes of people. In this case, every killer is an m1 killer, but each have their own skills that are either difficult or not. Every stealth killer is basically an m1, but their lack of terror radius is the biggest part that differentiates them from 32m TR killers. Ghost Face I would say is probably one of the higher tier stealth killers if not the highest for how efficient his gameplay is stealth-wise compared to the likes of Pig or Wraith. No terror radius with 4.6m/s and instadown potential is pretty good for an m1 imo. Streamers shouldn't get praise for gameplay choices while the killers themselves were doing fine without them.
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You miss the point, the point is his power doesn't change anything, he's still an M1 killer at the end of the day even with his power. Most other killers have an ability that isn't just M1, like Freddy and Billy.
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For a good majority of the players who follow Tru3 I would agree. The few who can lean stalk and stealth stalk can instadown you faster then you know what's happening. Than again I see why some people are starting to refer to him as TruelyTalentless anymore. I just thought it was my own personal joke.
100% Agree and it seems others are starting to tell as well since he seems to be getting lower and lower on people's tier list.
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Ghostface and Myers.
A lot of people think Ghostface is godly because of the anti-heal build when that’s something any Killer can do.
For Myers, everyone just goes “OMG INSTADOWNS!!!!!!!!!” and thinks he’s godly but that’s all he has. If you can loop him for long enough, then he doesn’t get to use it. His instakill and perma tier 3 add-ons take a while to use and require a specific play style to work. They also aren’t super strong against Survivors who gen rush and constantly break LOS so they aren’t feeding Myers.
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He's not that difficult to deal and I found him very annoying to play
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Yes., She's not that good. I mean, she has some qualities but very map dependent. Have you tried Huntress in Hawkins? It's a nightmare.
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how can HAG deal with looping? Not only does she have reduced speed, Her power is basically useless against loops unless you trap every loop, and even then it might not even be that useful.
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Why do an “anti-heal” build on Ghostface when you can do one on Spirit or Nurse who have better map pressure and chase potential? Ghostface is so overrated as killer. I really don’t see the hype. Sure he’s probably the best “stealth killer” (although I believe Myers is just as good) but other killers are just better. Plus he is the only killer whose power can he taken away from them.
I think Billy is top tier but he’s at the bottom of top tier. Nurse, Spirit, and Hag are much better IMO. He could even get pushed out of top tier if Oni stays the same because in his current state, Oni is definitely better than Billy.
Billy can get looped easily and if he gets an indoor map then good luck. Still don’t see why people want him nerfed. Just find a strong structure and proceed to waste his time. This is exactly why is isn’t as strong as Nurse, Spirit, or Hag. They won’t be getting looped for a long period of time like Billy.
All that map pressure means nothing if the survivors make his chainsaw worthless and turn him into M1Billy.
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How do you deal with loops as Hag? I don't play her much so... because wouldn't setting a trap just push them to the next loop? Or do you do a fake out like with trapper?
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Hag. For sure. Majority of Hags that I face just use their traps to camp people on hooks. They don't use them for any actual map pressure.
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People thinking Ghost Face was only good because of the anti-heal build is another reason why I despise player mentality changing and conditioning. He is really good without it. If someone tells you a killer is bad in a certain way, given Ghost face's stalk ability in particular, that can easily mean they're simply bad at it lol.
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Trapper. You rely on rng for traps to spawn in the right places, you have to stop to set them up which basically requires Ruin, you can't hold more then one trap without add ons, they're clearly visible in spots that aren't easy to avoid, and they can be disabled in one second or even sabotaged. And even if the survivor does go near your traps, they can just run around them or even right past them because their hitboxes are tiny. And because of how big Trapper is, he's more hindered by them them then the survivors are! They can even trick you into stepping into your own trap to free themselves! And if the stars align and that survivor is a total idiot and does step in your trap, they can struggle out without help. With good rng, they can get out on the first try. So survivors stepping on your traps when you are far away is actually bad, because they won't even be set anymore. He's also the killer with the most abilities that counter him - maps, tool boxes, slippery meat, small game, dead hard all bypass traps. On top of that, he has no map travel ability or stealth. By far, he's the worst killer. Just play hillbilly, you knock them down much faster. Or play Hag, aka high tier trapper.
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The reason Nurses is good on GF is solely because it makes him more versatile not more viable. Sadly you dont need the rest of the Talentless Build for him to be good. A good player wouldn't need it anyways.
The reason Spirit and Nurse dont use this build is simply because its a gimmick build worthy of Monto. I would say in terms of stealth Killers I would say Ghostface, Pig, Wraith. I dont see Myers as a stealth killer. Even then I think Myers is worse then both Ghostface and Pig.
I still think Huntress is stronger than Billy. Huntress has some bad Maps like Billy, but she can still use her kit even in those maps. Huntress maybe a 110, but at least she can do melee hatchets to be a near instantaneous Killer.
Billy on some maps has little to no use for his Ability. At that point Leatherface would be better. I compare Huntress and Hag a lot and depending on the day I view one stronger then the other.
At this point in DBD though my idea of a tier list has changed tho. I believe a tier list is based on viable killers who have the ability to excel, but I've seen some people who use low tier killers excel against some of the same SWF that a high tier killer had trouble against. I'm starting to personally believe that fun and enjoyment factors into the skill.
In anything competitive I have played with RNG elements. I have noticed that usually the person who has high end or upper tier stuff usually has a easier time from the start, but the person who fine tunes and gets skilled with a weaker part usually wins overall because they enjoyed it more.
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All you gotta do is trap the loop and you teleport and smack them in the face. Hag will always face in the direction of the survivor who popped her trap. I always trap pallets and strong structures (Ironworks window, Rancid Abattoir window, Mother’s Dwelling shack).
Hag is 10X better than Trapper. She has map control, chase potential, and starts with all of her traps.
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Hillbilliam. Easily looped as long as you aren't too greedy.
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Myers worse than Pig? That is a STRETCH and a half. I think Pig is a little underrated but she’s got nothing going for her. Her dash is nice at short loops and her traps have the potential to slow down the game...ya know unless survivors get their trap off on the first box like usual. Myers at least has a faster vault, an instadown, and a small terror radius (even smaller with Dead Rabbit or M&A). I do classify Myers as a stealth killer because he has the potential to sneak up on survivors whether he is in Tier 1 or Tier 2.
I can agree Huntress has the potential to be stronger than Billy on certain maps but Billy is far less map dependent. Huntress is a bit less loopable but I can’t put her above Billy. Hag is easily above both of them though. She does great on any map in the game.
Any killer can be viable if played correctly but some killers just have better powers. A great Pig player is going to do better than a bad Spirit player. Spirit is still all round the better killer though.
If I had to make a tier list of killers that are viable to my playstyle then Spirit and Plague would be at the top and Nurse and Huntress would be way down at the bottom. I’m the worst Nurse player in existence.
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Have you ever played against a good hag?
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Still don’t see how hag’s traps could benefit you. If anything setting the trap would push a survivor away to a new loop, and survivors like to destroy traps A LOT. And even then those traps would be useless most of the time because of the reduced speed. You would still probably get a pallet dropped on you.
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the nerf to spirit will literally do nothing to good spirits
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probably billy, even if hes good i just really cant see how hes that fun to play (also prolly cause i suck at him tho.)
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To be fair it is already a rarity to see Hag in the first place. If I see a Hag then she is probably gonna set five traps at the hook. I’ve faced GOOD Hag players, they just aren’t common.
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How you even played against a good hag?
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Well I know Hag is barely played and most of the time people can't her right but it shouldn't bring down a killer potential
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Alot people haven't because most high rank killers play much easier killers like Spirit.
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Funny that you say that Billy has little to no use on his ability on some maps, when Huntress is arguably the worst killer in the game in certain maps.
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Hag.
She's a toy when dealing with survivors that know what she does. Her trap range/ teleport time doesn't let her hit survivors before they can get to a loop, meaning a survivor just needs to spam her traps with impunity at max range with a loop nearby to invalidate her. Also, she's one of those killers that flashlights completely neuter.
Have fun looping a godloop with a survivor with flashlight.
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I find more use out of Huntress on her bad maps then I do on Billy's bad maps. It's not like either of these killers can't play on bad maps. Just I find more use out of Huntress on those types of situations then I do Billy.
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I do agree with that. Huntress is limited on indoor maps because she can’t throw long range hatchets. All recent maps are not great for her due to all the line of sight blockers. She has to have a clear shot in order to have a chance.
Billy is also not very great on recent maps because of line of sight blockers. He’s just an M1 killer if the survivors are good at looping.
Huntress will usually always have some way to use her hatchets at close range. Billy can easily be turned into Whack-A-Billy.
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How ? She's a 110% speed killer which won't hit any hatchets if survivors know how to run tiles and gets looped for 2 minutes + if survivors find a building with a God window. I find her very useless in certain maps and she's not worth playing when other killers are easier and not as crippled by map design than her.
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Like the same exact thing won’t happen to Billy. His instadown doesn’t mean squat if he is getting his ankles broken in every tile.
If a survivor is running a good window (Asylum, Grim Pantry, Torment Creek) you should chase anyways ESPECIALLY with Huntress.
You really underestimate Huntress. Some maps cuck her but it’s still doable. She can be a hassle but she’s easily the most rewarding killer.
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