Who the most overated killer?
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Listen, I'm not saying that the other killers don't get hurt by map design. But at least the other killers can catch up to the survivors eventually or maybe even use their powers to counter these loops. Huntress simply can't do that. She just CAN'T. No matter your skill, you are just a toy if survivors just abuse these God loops. Abandoning chases won't do anything if survivors are aware of them and keep abusing them everytime you chase them. Even a Huntress main with 2000 hours on her can easily be made into a powerless 110% speed killer on indoor maps, Coldwind Farm maps, Family Residence, Mount Ormond, etc. She is useless outside of her hatchets, so if you make them useless, you pretty much won against her.
Rewarding ? IMAO, she's not. Like, at all. I and even the Huntress mains always said : she doesn't reward you as much as she should for the skill you put in her. Old Nurse without add-ons was a rewarding killer, Huntress is a high risk - pretty low reward killer. Even Scott and Umbra consider her a stresfull and frustrating killer to play, they barely feel any rewarded after 2000 hours put into her.
Sorry, but the reality is, Huntress is just a slow killer, without mobility, with an outdated ability that gets hindered massively by map design. If she's a top 5 killer material for you, then our standards must be at a really low point.
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Doctor
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Hag, without add ons she’s mediocre
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Huntress is a bad killer.
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I played Hag without add-ons plenty of times and I still think she really good killers who doesn't RELIE on Add-ons (I'm looking at you Legion)
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I guess i'd have to say Shape.
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If anything, Myers would be the exception of this due to his increased base stats.
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As for Hag and Huntress it just depends on too many variables. I'm better with Hag, but I think it's mostly a day to day on who I think is better overall.
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Because those same crippling map design affect Billy. Huntress unlike Billy wont be turned straight into a M1 killer though even if the survivors know what they are doing. Being a 115 can carry a bad killer, but regardless a 110 can do the same thing if they can play properly.
I respect Umbra way more then Scott Jund. His skills are good, but his mentality is a joke anymore.
Also I dont rank Billy in top 5 anymore he was replaced by the GF who know how to stalk and be stealthy. Billy is only good against mediocre survivors and when your out in the open. Least Huntress had better potential overall. Billy has some curving that is easy enough to juke along with snowball potential due to his instadown and map pressure.
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Actually, she can be turned into a M1 killer more easily then Billy. She did a wrong prediction at a loop with high wall ? Too bad, get looped 3 more times. The God window from Groaning Storehouse main building is open ? RIP Huntress.
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well she is one of the strongest killers in the gameso what you on about
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Hillbilly. If he gets nerfed, I can't see myself using him anymore. He's just not as good as people say.
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You can actually throw over more loops than you think. A lot of short loops you can throw over. Huntress has the opportunity to throw over some loops. Billy has no opportunity to use his chainsaw on most pallet loops. Both are limited on most maps though.
Why would you chase that window anyways? Even a 115% MS killer is going to have trouble. Unless you’re Spirit, Hag, or Nurse there is no point of chasing most of the strong structures.
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The thing is, 115% speed killers are still able to catch up or have a power to at least hinder or shorten these loops ( like Freddy Snares or Doctor Shock with add-ons ). Huntress simply can't catch up, making her the weakest killer in the game against these loops.
Yeah, she can throw over 20% of the loops in the game, but she can't do that against the other 80% of the loops.
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Lol right man you can keep defending him all you want he's just not nearly as good when compaired directly Huntress. Both killers have there upsides and downsides. Overall Huntress comes out on top its not by a large margin, but it's enough to matter. You seem to think Billy is immune to this situations from the way your putting Huntress down with specific scenarios which Billy would flunk in the same situations if not worse. I've had less problems with highly skilled SWF groups with Huntress than I have had with Billy on PC in console I can't play him at all.
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yea because she wont have traps set before hand, dude her power always gets you a hit at loops if you placed the trap correctly. also chasing survivors to a non trapped part of the map is not how you play her sometimes you just have to let survivors go and get them later when they are healing.
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that doesn't mean shes overrated that just means no one you have faced has been playing hag properly.
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1 Where I defended Billy ? I don't even like him.
2 I never said that Billy is immune, but the thing is, I didn't heard Billy mains complaining as much about maps and "infinites" as Huntress mains. Seriously, everytime I watch a Huntress main, they only rant about how bad this map is or how unfair this building is. Plus, Billy is truly better at these loops/buldings than Huntress.
Sorry, but for me, Huntress is just a mediocre killer and nothing more. If not for map design, I would consider her a very good killer, but now, I think she's not even top 10.
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if its a loop most people run to than set a trap and leave the survivor you're chasing, it sounds counter productive but as long as you have a web of traps around 3-4 gens that are close together and protect them survivors will have to come to you and they will trigger the traps as you chase them.
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Clown. A terrible killer in design and execution.
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You think DOCTOR is better at dealing with loops than Huntress? Sure you can shock you but unless the survivor is a complete potato it won’t work. Doctor is 110% in treatment mode and he then has to switch to punishment after the shock and he loses any bloodlust he had. Doctor is only good at dealing with loops if he is against green ranks and below. Good survivors are going to keep running the loop.
It will only work if the survivor is at an unsafe pallet or the pallet is dropped and they are vaulting back and forth. Sorry but Huntress can deal with loops much better than Doctor.
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Clown is pretty bad but I wouldn’t call him overrated. Most people know he is terrible.
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this post right here out of all of the ones i have seen is the most survivor viewed in here. first off why would a good hag be out of her trap tp range unless there are 2 survivors left and even if you activated the traps as she is carrying someone you're wasting time looking for them and giving the hag info one where you are. second a good hag will always hit you if you activated a trap because she will rarely be out of range and activating a properly placed trap will always get the hag a hit. third flashlights are SO overrated against hag, sure you can make saves safer and get rid of traps at good loops but that's it and if that is all you'er doing then you're wasting your time which is good for hag. also i find that survivors who do go trap hunting with a FL often accidentally activated the traps they are trying to find and are one of the first people to die because of it.
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I said he is better against buildings, not against loops in general than Huntress.
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Just seemed like you were as you made sure to point out her weakness without even mentioning or realizing he has the same ones.
Ya a lot of Huntress just DC if they dont like the map. It's harder to secure a kill if your not experienced with her. A lot of those Huntress Main Streamers also need to be a legit 4k or they get mad. Try watching Umbra and Zubat more. Even tho I have slowly diminishing respect for Scott Jund anymore because of his continuing crusade against Spirit. I've never seen him drop a match with Huntress like some of the other streamers.
I dont agree and that's perfectly fine with me. I think Billy is inferior to Huntress. The things she does well or even mediocre excel above him in the same categories.
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Lol, owned
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Plague. So many people who play Plague at Rank 15 think that she's good because morons cleanse against them. Plague is easily the worst Killer in the game and is way worse than old Freddy ever was. At least Freddy had stealth and game stall. Plague is a default Killer whos power is either NOED or Huntress on steroids. Literally everything that Plague does is based on the Survivors making mistakes: Survivors being found too early, Survivors not dodging her puke, and Survivors cleansing to give her Corrupt Purge. Plague is incredibly easy to loop and gen rush since she is a default Killer with essentially no power. The only reason that people win with her is because they get lucky and find a dumb Survivor early, get them to max infection, and then start the snowball which is the only asset that Plague has.
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I watch Umbra and Zubatlel and they still DC on bad maps and complain about map design and Umbra even asks for buffs to Huntress. But it's ok, we don't need to agree, I just don't think Huntress is really that great.
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or you just run slow down perks like thano, DL, and pop as the survivors struggle to get gens done, plague can still mind game and get people because its not to hard to down people since they are all noisy and injured. I think shes good and im rank 1 currently, also shes way better than old freddy like how did you make that comparison when Freddy had nothing to help him in a chase, find survivors, and still had to hit them twice.
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Never seen either of them DC, but then again I dont really watch many streamers because like sports i find playing it more fun than watching some person play.
I do like Fungoose though.
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Umbra and Scott will always DC on Haddonfield as any killer (besides Spirit when they do play her).
I can’t speak for Umbra because I only recently started watching her streams but I’ve only seen her DC on Haddonfield.
Scott on the other hand has DC’ed on Haddonfield and The Game map as most killers.
I can’t speak for Zubatlel because I haven’t watched his streams.
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LEGION! Duh! Why do people play him?
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A few have, but I see so many people put her as an A-Tier killer, yet she has very little potential in a chase, with limited use of her power to provide map pressure. If she's in a chase and somebody triggers her traps, then her power is wasted. If she disengages from the chase to go for the trap, then she is possibly ditching a chase with an injured survivor.
Trapper on the other hand completely shuts down chases with his traps, as the survivor is immobile and moves physically faster at the bearable cost of having a larger terror radius, that higher ranks can learn to ignore, especially those running Spine Chill.
While the Hag is also one of the best "Defensive" killers in the game, her power is also circumvented by an item, and to a lesser degree, the perk Urban Evasion.
Sure, the Hag could be extremely strong, and even able to compete with killers like Nurse or Spirit within a 3-Gen situation, a competent group of survivors will be able to spread out their generators so that they can't be locked in.
That and the whole people just proxy-camp thing.
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Most people just can't play him properly from my experience. He can stop chases really easily with his gas and the Hindered status effect, but people don't know how to apply it properly. Or people have learnt how to deal with him.
Just look at Freddy 2.0 and his Blood Snares. He's able to stop a lot of chases and loops because of his ability, which applies the same penalty as the Clown's bottles, but in a smaller area.
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Huntress. And Billy>Huntress. Billy always has his power, is 115 movement, and on loops he can use Flick on his chainsaw to make a joke of loops and can patrol gens effectively. Huntress is 110, map dependant, and if you run out of hatchets mid chase you become an M1 Killer. An M1 killer with 110 movement speed...
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I'm not good playing any killer no matter who I use, but I play very badly with Plague and also Clown. So for me they are overrated but everyone play in different styles so these opinions will always vary.
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Clown's power counters himself. When you throw bottle, Clown's movement speed decreases briefly weaken his own slow. Clown makes survivor's scream, so it essentially tells entire survivor team when he's in a chase making extremely easy to do generators. It's strange that they designed a killer whose power is essentially bloodlust on demand since slowing a survivor is the same thing as speeding up the killer and yet whenever you throw a bottle as clown, he cancels his own bloodlust. I'm not sure who balanced clown but he did meghead job. It doesn't help that he has only 4 bottles and reload is really slow. I think even if clown had 1 extra bottle and didn't get slowed down from throwing bottles, he would still have trouble being competitive killer. He's unrewarded killer to play and probably trends to being of the worse dbd killers despite looking good on paper. He's also plagued with dedicate server bugs now.
Freddy has no movement slowdown, no reload and he is quite deceptive of a killer. It's just a bit sad that they nerfed bloodlust on freddy as it gave him a better chance against rank 1 teams. Now he just gets looped too easily and get punished for using unreliable power. He's good killer but he's a bit overrated.
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Pig, by far. Followed by Hag in good hands.
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Billy
Maybe it's a PS4 thing but for the life of me I can't steer this guy around
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