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My Thoughts On Dbd Currently, as of 11/19/2019

Now for once this wont be a #########-post on this account, although i am going to use this one to keep my account that i post on for genuine stuff private , because this is most likely going to be trash talked by certain people who don't want to hear this kind of stuff

HITBOXES (Still not fixed, been broken since 1.6.)

My current thoughts on the game have me honestly losing hope for it, at the current time dedicated servers have broken perks, (note it has brought some good things but here's some of the bad) , made getting hit through windows much much easier on green ping

I.E. here's proof right here

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_NFysTLpc19FKaHzOJtKfLHrvpAS5HpT/view , video wont post so here's a google drive , ping to the dedicated server was 60 for me pretty good! although hitboxes didn't seem to like it , my friends ping (person who recorded this) was 65-70, and i got hit through god pallet while the killer was on the other side but i don't use nvidia so it wasnt clipped.

Killers (Characters, Not players)

Since spirit is getting nerfed pretty soon i'm not going to use her as my main point but nurse has been broken for years now, and she just got nerfed a couple updates ago, and spirit (i know i said i wasn't going to use her as my main point but this needs to be addressed) has been a low skill cap killer , yes i notice tracking comes into big play while playing her but considering most survivors are RUNNING in a chase theres scratch marks and considering it the survivor isn't using Iron will you can be heards so scratch mark juking isn't really a option since she can bump into you and hear you, and in the future update she is going to not be able to bump into you which is nice :)


Killers (Players)

Now i'm not trying to discriminate as one side because i play both sides majorly survivor but i do enjoy playing killer, Killer is a power role which i do understand and survivor shouldn't hold the balance in the game although survivor is nerfed almost every update as killer gets buffed, Many perks have been nerfed, gutted, from what they used to be, This game is one of a kind and i wouldnt like to see it go away but almost anything enough killers complain about is nerfed, I.E. Meta perks isn't something that should be complained about these days You can barely survive with them, ######### survivor is literally someone living off of scrap from the scrap yard, rarely you get great things, sometimes you get ok things and most of the time you get nothing


SURVIVOR (Players, And feelings about the side)

Playing survivor at the moment most definitely is not enjoyable, and you can ask any survivor out there who is half decent that the game is going downhill atm for survivor, its really hard to enjoy a game with a semi decent killer , and with killer queues being so long you cant really find anyone trying to have fun, and its usually just the same build, Why use a fun build when you have a hour long wait time to most likely get bullied by survivors just because you want to have fun, survivor is honestly just annoying to play at the moment and i'm not surprised why killer has such long queues


General Thoughts About The Game ( My Thoughts )

The game is very very unfun to play as survivor at the moment, currently hitboxes seem to be worse then they used to be which is honestly kinda disturbing that you can break hitboxes this badly,killer holds all the power now, survivor have barely any chance to have fun,

Queue time

Killer queue times take about 30-45 minutes , as survivor takes about 10, still pretty long just to get a 15 minute game, which makes it undesirable to use fun perk builds on killer, maybe sometimes on survivor but why use a fun build when you're most likely going to get bullied while using it then have to wait 30 or even 40 minutes to use it again?

Conclusion/End

To end off this post, Dbd is going downhill atm for survivors, killers hold TOO much power nowadays, and survivor seems to get the ######### end of the stick, its very hard to even enjoy playing one game like it used to be. anyways that's it to this post, Thanks for reading it even though it will probably get drowned out by everyone who doesn't want to hear this :/

Comments

  • Artyomich
    Artyomich Member Posts: 281

    Hit boxes were fine aside from a few like Hatches back when it was Peer to peer green pings. Dedicated servers threw that out of the loop and I can't even gauge my safe distances anymore, Dead hard is acting faulty and it's frustrating but I'll take dedicated servers over finding 30 minutes matches and dodging lobbies to find a decent killer with green ping. Only for it to be a killer that turns his lag switch in the middle of the match.

    The game's balance is good only and I still firmly believe good survivors can bully majority of the killers as long as it's not a God Nurse or a Spirit but that actually requires the survivors to be good themselves and doesn't have the game sense of a mashed potato.

    Only thing going downhill is Survivors getting exposed on for how awful they are as players and only lasted this long because they rely on overpowered nonsense.

    Rank 1 Killer and Solo queue Survivor.

  • Centernova
    Centernova Member Posts: 39

    Explain To me you're definition of bullying, and your playstyle, i'm not trying to say what you said is wrong Although rank doesn't really matter nowadays and play style will help me understand you better from my standpoint

  • Centernova
    Centernova Member Posts: 39

    Its not the fact survivors are getting nerfed, its majority of the bugs and how unfun it is to play survivor at this point

  • Jesya
    Jesya Member Posts: 1,101

    don't forget the shadow nerfs pig seemed to get often the past few updates.

    but yeah.. survivors constantly getting nerfed while killers getting buffed. Seems legit.

  • Artyomich
    Artyomich Member Posts: 281

    I have a good gauge on how distances work on this game and what decreases and increases it so depending on the tile generation I wouldn't need Pallets, I just need windows. That means I'm not afraid of most killers in this game at this point. One M1 from a killer is enough for me to run half or the entire map depending on the map size and then there's Dead hard for good measure if I need that boost to reach a pallet or window if I misjudged the distance so what's there to be afraid of aside from a Nurse or Spirit.

    While my post suggest that I'm a looping player that's not my playstyle. Having a playstyle is a bad habit you shouldn't get into. I can adapt just fine to any situation, If I need to do Gen I can hit hex ruin just fine, If I need to play stealth then crouch when I need to then run when I have to be efficient.

  • SunderMun
    SunderMun Member Posts: 2,789

    Honestly neither role feels enjoyable to play right now. Hitboxes are a big issue as is player behaviour (on both sides)


    Matchmaking is horrific; when I play survivor at red rank I often get a similarly ranked killer with green and white rank teammates while I'm solo. And the ability to dodge this is going away. In reverse, I find when I play killer, the ranks always seem to be much higher than mine at any given time and this leads to a pretty toxic environment when they realise I'm not as experienced at killer as they are at survivor.


    As well as this, dedicated servers literally broke the game more than it already was; dead hard is a great example of this 9(although we are yet again being told its being worked on, as has been said many times throguhout my time playing this game) It either is pressed and a full second later isn't used, or is used, you become exhausted, but don't actually perform the action and are downed for it despite timing it perfectly to gain distance and make the killer miss, while reaching for the pallet's safety.


    In converse, there's a bug that I've reported multiple times that makes playing killer feel horrific; I will spam M1 or M2 and the game just won't register I want to lunge or use my power, and it gives survivors enough space to escape to a pallet, stunning me and elongating a chase, even if only by a few more seconds. this needs to be dealt with and yet the devs are silent on this.

    Another bug, related to long lobby times for survivors; the grouping system, is broken beyond comprehension; it can take an hour just to find a game because after waiting for 10 minutes to get a lobby only one of you will be put into it while the other(s) will be kicked back to the menu screen with the message 'an unknown error occurred.' this happens so often that sometimes I'll not even get a game in before I give up. Meanwhile I could play killer for instant queues, but for reasons state above, I don't really feel like it; it's not fun, I don't gain anything from it - not even as a learning experience.

  • SunderMun
    SunderMun Member Posts: 2,789

    Last few patches survivors are definitely getting a LOT more net nerfs that affect quality of matches. The oblivious status effect on Freddy probably being the worst one that is currently live, however Balanced Landing getting nerfed as a band-aid fix rather than just dealing with map design is a great example, too.


    Not that survivors getting nerfed more is necessarily a bad thing, it's just objectively the case that it's happening.

  • SunderMun
    SunderMun Member Posts: 2,789

    I'm finding that both sides are toxic AF and I have to work damn hard not to fall into the trap of being like them and adding fuel into the fire. Sorry that you blame survivors only. It doesn't matter whos tarted it, I don't really know nor care, but that does need to stop...the game is becoming painful to play as both sides because of it, alongside other issues.

  • Dr_Trauts
    Dr_Trauts Member Posts: 704

    In comparison to the games release, the killers have gotten stronger yes. But that doesn't mean killers are overpowered or even holding the power role at the moment. All it means is that survivors can't pull off the same no skill routines in loops.

    The game is getting better as a whole, and hopefully will continue to go in the direction its headed.

  • Artyomich
    Artyomich Member Posts: 281

    I'm not siding with anyone mate. How is it toxic at pointing something that is true? Actually how is it becoming painful at playing because of people siding which is which on the internet Lmfao. Are you serious, Bruh just go play.

  • concious_consumer
    concious_consumer Member Posts: 282

    With current state of hitboxes it's better to not play for real at all because too many times your skills and choices don't matter at all

  • SunderMun
    SunderMun Member Posts: 2,789

    I used to wait a very long time for killer lobbies and get instant survivor lobbies. Now it's the opposite.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,590

    I think you are sorely confused on the games balance currently. The survivors still are very much the power role and playing survivor right now is quite too easy. Most the killer roster is relatively weak and needs substantial buffs.

  • ahandfulofrain
    ahandfulofrain Member Posts: 528

    You clearly don't play killer. Talk about unfun. Especially for people like me who don't want to rely on Ruin for some stall.


    Survivor is the easier role with the better perks and the easier win condition.

  • Raven014
    Raven014 Member Posts: 4,188
    edited November 2019

    Um... do you play the same game as us?

    Spirit can be easily destroyed by good teams, even if you phasewalk, there are ways to counter it. (I.E. spine chill)

    Nurse's old Base kit was fine. I think you had a problem with Omegablink, which that is gone for good. It just required play that wasn't looping.

    Killer, as the game is now, is not the power role. Playing at red ranks with anything other than billy or Spirit and you'll see why. I am masochistic enough to bring Legion up there, but they are going to be even worse now.

    Survivors often want to just loop mindlessly. Even when I play survivor, I try to play loops well, but it doesn't work because I'm a bad survivor. But most of the time you will escape if your team is competent enough to work through ruin... even then it gets destroyed really early a lot of the time.

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  • Matekoss
    Matekoss Member Posts: 22
    edited November 2019

    Hitboxes are broken and i dont think it will change with dedicated servers.

    They told us its not the game faults its the connection...yeah ofc green ping my ass dude

    weak excuse...

    Get hit through pallets is something, you know.

    But get hitted while you already through the window is bull-sh-it

    And ofc hitted mid-air after a window jump is something different.

    Playing Survivor atm is a disaster and makes literally no fun. Dead hard is also broken, most of the time i get exhausted on the ground. Yeah ofc its the connection they said. You can tell what you want 2019 is an absolut distaster with all this things.


    And yeah booiiiiii the Rank System, its nice to see that the Rank-System works like it supposed to. KAPPA

    Or play something else for a weak

    does not work... already had a break, over and over. Same problems and they wont stop.


    End of the Story, most problems they dont care or maybe they dont know how to fix them.

    And everybody should know at this points. Its tooks YEARS for them to fix. I mean ranked-system-error took more then 3month or even longer ROFL.


    Ah i forgot - I dont care about nerfs i want FIXES. Thats the real problem at the moment. And then they should go over and try to balance something. But that train is already over the Ocean.

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  • FriendlyGuy
    FriendlyGuy Member Posts: 2,768

    I'm winning about 75% of my survivor matches in red ranks. I'm winning about 50% of my killer matches in red ranks.

    Survivor is way more chill for me to play.

    I got nearly instant killer queues, but five minutes survivor queues.

    Conclusion: You are apparently not good enough as survivor. And you probably don't played the game in it's early days. If you did you would understand why survivors constantly received nerfs.

  • Karltastisk
    Karltastisk Member Posts: 529

    I used to e a killer main, But now Im more 20/40/40 solo/swf/killer and Im having a blast as survivor much more then previously.

  • Jimsalabim
    Jimsalabim Member Posts: 641
    edited November 2019

    you forgot to mention that before that little adjustment to nurse it was buff buff buff for ALL killers and nerf nerf nerf for survivors. don't make laugh killer main, the killers are in a much better position and that's why the survivor queues are so long these days, more and more ppl want to play killer now

  • CrowFoxy
    CrowFoxy Member Posts: 1,310
    edited November 2019

    This is extremely survivor biased with almost no killer issues. I don't see how the opinion matters much. Killers are still the weaker role, as they always have been. If you're not a top tier killer, and the survs are good, killer loses usually.

  • Centernova
    Centernova Member Posts: 39

    do you understand the definition of biased? Just because im talking about one side does not make my opinion biased, i never said anything about killer and the things that need to be changed with killer now did i or did i even say anything about killer being bad no i didnt, i also said i play killer aswell so i dont get how this is "biased" maybe play survivor and see how enjoyable it is mr nurse picture

  • HamdaN
    HamdaN Member Posts: 343

    survivor definetly needs a QOL change asap, alot of things feel super whack and a ton of bugs/killer exploits keep coming up making things miserable. so many huntress players have hit me through walls and indirectly admit they knew they could do it and i doubt they will serve punishment anyways. the game feels like 2 different tenses with servers because the killer always feels 2 seconds behind with latency and its practically a single player game for them

  • Killers still trying to find excuses to say 70%-75% kill rates (red ranks) are still too low. Nevermind that those rates also mean that survivor players die most of the time.

  • kcwolf1975
    kcwolf1975 Member Posts: 651
    edited November 2019

    I am not a good survivor so I usually only play killer, but with all of the survivor challenges I have had to play more (mostly for the unhooks). I only play solo and was surprised how easy it is to pip as a survivor. I am up to rank 5 but i still feel like a potato. Killer is much more difficult and stressful imo.

  • ad19970
    ad19970 Member Posts: 6,405
    edited November 2019

    I play both killer and survivor, and I am currently still enjoying solo survivor a lot. Unless I am getting camped of course. I'm surprised you pointed out how everything killers complain about gets nerfed, even though Nurse received a nerf last Patch, Spirit is receiving a nerf, and other killers before have also received nerfs already. Perks like DS and Mettle of Man were ridiculous and needed a nerf no doubt.

    Personally, I think this game is in a pretty well balanced state. Neither killer nor survivor sided. And I am enjoying it in general. I don't think it's killer sided, not with the maps and gen times we have right now. If there is anything that should be nerfed on the killers side though, for whatever reason, than the devs should start with Hex: Ruin.

    Personally, I am also not having any real issues with hitboxes at the moment. Except maybe for those very rare hits through pallets. Normally though, if I get hit while dropping a pallet, it's because I dropped the pallet a tiny bit too late.

    I'm also surprised about your queue times. For me, in the evening at least, queue times for both survivor and killer are like 30 seconds at average, maybe even less.

    However, I'm not sure if you are talking about solo or swf survivor experience. I will say this, even though I do enjoy solo survivor, I do think the devs need to start take bigger steps to close the balance gap between solo and swf survivors. The kill rate stats that were released just further more show me this issue needs to be adressed. I don't think the balance gap is as big as some people make it out to be, but still.

    I am still hoping the devs eventually decide to add kindred into the basekit of survivors. I still think having kindred thanks to voice comms is the biggest advantage swf survivors have over solo survivors.

  • SteelDragon
    SteelDragon Member Posts: 745
    edited November 2019

    the moment I read "killers are the power role" you lost all credibility. you are wrong, survivor has always had the power role and they still do, they still will for a LONG TIME. and your "every patch killers are buffed and survivors are nerfed"

    THAT IS BECAUSE THIS WAS THE OG BALANCE! as survivors actually advance beyond potato status they learn how broken the game is and the TRUE POTENTIAL that a survivor has to run to killer for a VERY extended period of time. this "buff killers nerf survivors" is the ONLY THING that kept this game alive and still does. without it? there would be no one to play killer and with no killers there would be no games, no games mean no one will want to play it

    Here is some more of the old balance (most of it is broken balance towards survivor btw)


    BTW i am a killer AND SOLO SURVIVOR ONLY I NEVER SWF, not even DUO. survivor is still the power role in every way

  • DaGreenBolt
    DaGreenBolt Member Posts: 453

    Both sides are toxic, except the survivor side are usually the most toxic, and the ones that DC on anything they don't like the majority of the time. I rarely encounter the killer doing the same when playing survivor.

  • UlvenDagoth
    UlvenDagoth Member Posts: 3,535

    Killers are not the power role against a good or even decent team. This is obvious bait, at least to me.

  • SunderMun
    SunderMun Member Posts: 2,789

    There it is. You've proven that no matter how much evidence there is, the other side is 'more' to blame for you. Which is a pathetic stance.

  • DaGreenBolt
    DaGreenBolt Member Posts: 453
    edited November 2019

    ….

    The thing is its still true thou, there are multiple videos showing toxic and salty survivors compared to killers. I see this ingame, but apparently saying something true is now very bad according to you.

    Also would you like to explain to me why do survivors DC a lot compared to killer, because if DCing isn't toxic then idk what is?

  • SunderMun
    SunderMun Member Posts: 2,789

    The thing is, it's not true though. There are plenty of videos showing players on both sides being toxic. Just because you saw a tru3 video where a claudette teabagged him to get his attention, it doesn't mean most are like that.

    Idk, I get a lot of killer DC's, usually after they failed right after trying to do something scummy.

    And when I see survivors DC, yes, sometimes it's not for good reason, but a lot of the time, they just want out of the game, which is their right. I don't expect them to punish someone who wants to leave the game when they've been slugged for the 4k when the killer knows the location of the last person and the hatch hasn't even spawned yet, just as I wouldn't expect a killer to realistically put up with the bullshit of a sabo squad teabagging them around every corner and taunting them if they don't want to.