Please revert Michael EW1 back to being immune to detection
Ever since the "undetectable status effect update" Myers have been severely nerfed due to this new status effect being slapped on him. Granted, he now has 0 terror radius but can be detected by spine chill 36 meters away. This is causing him to lose all his stealth ability when trying to stalk a survivor.
A survivor running spine chill or premonition immediately runs away and looks for him as soon as the perks light up. its being extremely hard to keep up in the start of the game which is very crucial, given he already has very low speed and gains no bloodlust. Also, his lunge is way too small. Undetectable status effect is severely hurting Myers and ruining one of the most fun builds in the game, the scratched mirror.
How was this a good idea to give a killer who is already handicapped to begin with, more negatives? The Undetectable status might be a minor buff for all other stealth killers but for him, its a massive nerf. A nerf that he didn't need in the first place.
I suggest that you could give him the status effect if you must, but only the 0 terror radius part. He already had the immunity to every detection perk in the game to begin with in his base kit. He had that immunity for a reason, to compensate for the negatives that he had to start the game with. This made him unique, now he is just another run of the mill so called stealth killer that is not stealthy at all. His EW1 must be reverted back to complete detection immunity like it was previously. The new status effect is basically making him a M1 killer with all the negatives and no positives.
Please change him back as he was. This change was completely unnecessary and was a horrible idea to begin with, to one of the most balanced killers that was fun to play with and against. He didn't need any changes. Please let him be as he was and not add unnecessary status effects on him.
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So to sum up your wall of text "Myers now has a counter, please undo it". I love killers and I 99% side with them but this post is just silly.
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Myers always had a counter, all you had to do is look around and listen carefully. But, people couldn't be bothered to do that so completely ruin one of the most fun killers in the game? Right. That makes so much sense. Because, God forbid someone interrupts while a survivor is immersed in fixing a generator. How dare a killer sneak up on them without a notification? Oh the blasphemy of that...
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He still has no terror radius. So what is your complaint again? "Survivors have a way to see me when I have no terror radius so unfair". I mean come on man listen to yourself
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You do realize Spine chill has nothing to do with TR right? His entire power is based on looking at people, which is completely nullified in this case.
He had the immunity for a reason, he is slower than a turtle and has no lunge, bloodlust, if survivors are so bothered by his spook factor and cant handle paranoia of a horror game, maybe they should play something else.
I am not even worried about terror radius, M&A can work wonders on him, but to have a severely handicapped killer detectable at 36 meters away is a horrible idea.
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This gave bs-mirror a counter in games with little to no los check, that's why the change happened
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YA that's one of the stupidest reason for it. If people are so worried about it, all you had to do is look. How hard is that?
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Unlike other stealthers he cannot cancel it , thus he needs to be able to ambush people. There wasnt a reason to deny his old complete immunity, it was just a part of his kit, like spirits random twitch.
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Did you know OoO works against T1 Myers when it shouldnt
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Pretty sure he is still undetectable with Spine Chill in T1.
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Myers was immune to detection perks for a reason. Having barely the speed of a survivor you get really screwed by Spine Chill, Premonition and even OoO because the perk still lights up and tells which direction he's coming from.
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I know he was and the change to it is better.
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Not really. Myers wasn't even a great killer to being with. He has a really slow start if he can't get early stalk to reach tier 2 and without detection immunity it's a pain in the ass.
If they don't want to add the immunity back he should get buffed in some other way, giving him movement speed or perhaps faster tier 2.
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He is mid tier. He is fine not all killers are high tier.
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Yup, look around in Lery's, or The Game, or Hawkin's, with walls taller than Myers...
It was broken on maps with no los checks around gens, you guys just don't wanna admit it
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Right... So just go ahead and ruin him because RNG of those maps with Myers in them in exceptionally high right?
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Exactly, his old version, he was the only one who was completely undetectable. Added to his allure. Now he is just another killer who has been toned down.
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you mean other than looking around or hearing his loud ass footsteps or his constant loud breathing? Buy a ######### pair of headphones. Myers is completely ######### since this update. Not a single person is playing him anymore and god forbid there's actually ONE jumpscare killer in a HORROR GAME.
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Exactly my point. It's a horror game. God forbid you don't hear or get notified of the killer coming at you. How could someone have the audacity to interrupt your gen time...
This update made it so he is completely unplayable and it shows. No one is using him. He needs his immunity back. That is what made him so unique. he was one of the most balanced killers but with this status update he got completely ruined for no reason.
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There's 3 maps which has very low LOS. RNG of those plus mirror Myers is exceptionally low. Yet, survivors couldn't be bothered to have something to put them on edge. Everyone wants an easy walk in the park. Why bother playing a horror game then?
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Since when? Last I played mirror was before update and it didn't affect him. Is that a new thing now as well?
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Exactly, he had it because he had to many negatives to start the game. Now there are all negatives and no positives. He needs his old EW1 back. That was the best version of him. Why even touch something that wasn't broken in the first place?
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I played Jumpscare Myers and got spotted by the OoO, the same happened when I played Ghostface today, had my aura revealed during Undetectable, Feelsadman
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######### is stealth any good then? I can understand certain perks trumps others. GF can cancel.out of stealth and still retain his speed etc. But, Myers ? Seriously? He was the only one in this game who trumped any and all detection perks. But, couldn't have something like that now could we? Survivors need better chances and can't be bothered to look around when they're doing gens.
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Nah they only want you to run straight at people and get looped to oblivion and back. They don't want anything else. God forbid survivors have to do ANYTHING other than run in circles and drop the occasional pallet and do gens. God ######### forbid it. Thanks BHVR.
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I personally much prefer stealth than going in half cocked and get hit by pallets. I want to strategize, see and not be seen. Choose my moment to strike. Make them so paranoid that they fail skill checks. But hey...
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In Hawkin's you litterally have ambience noises all over so you can't hear anything, plus gen noises muffle the footsteps. Again, in the maps all Mirror Myers used, you couldn't see anything. It was clearly broken if the devs fixed it. You no longer have an almost guaranteed game, now you have to mind game SC users, the horror /s
Btw asking everyone to just buy headphones shows how broken it was. I shouldn't need anything outside game mechanics to counter something
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I thought OoO only revealed killers with a terror radius like #########
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The game's audio is part of its mechanics. Headphones are just equipment. You need a computer/console and keyboard/mouse/controller and speakers/headphones. Using better equipment will get better results.
Other video games are the same way. I don't need to have headphones to play a shooter, but if I do have headphones then I can hear the guy trying to attack from behind me. If I play without headphones, I accept that I'm handicapping myself.
Tier 1 Myers should be immune to Spine Chill. The devs never said him being immune to Spine Chill was broken. They said they made the change to keep the killers consistent. However, that's a poor reason to change him. Each killer is different. Just because the others aren't immune to Spine Chill doesn't mean he shouldn't be.
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Well that's just your opinion, but this was for the better. Now Mirror Myers is balanced cause it has a counter. Normal Myers isn't even worse, you as Myers spend little time as T1
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That's just your opinion because apparently nerfing a killer to the ground is balanced. How about play a generator simulator instead then?
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Such entitlement. You never have a guaranteed game. Even with old mirror build I had bad games at times. It happens. So it's okay to have a guaranteed bad game ? Why am I supporting this game then if that's all I am getting?
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What's the point of playing a game if everything is basically the same. Just a different packaging. You hear or detect the killer, you run. You loop. Mirror Michael was different. That's what made him scary and dangerous. It was extremely fun as him and against him. Or are we not supposed to enjoy our game time?
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Ah yes, grabbing people off gens and hitting them without them being able to see you or run you is totally fun, for you cause it has no counter. The devs decided to change it, you can't do anything about it
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How was he nerfed to the ground? Now you have a perk that can counter him, 1 perk out of so many. He's fine, now you just have to think more when you play instead of getting free stalk/hits
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Wow it's unbelievable the level of entitlement. Like seriously... It's a ######### horror game for crying out loud. He is a killer who is supposed to ambush you. God forbid you get picked off while doing a gen right? How dare the killer do that without letting you know that he is coming for you. Right. Gotcha. No wonder this game is going downhill fast. Especially with mentality like yours and the developers of this game severely regulating killers so they can promote and encourage 4v1 bullying.
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Where is the counter to SWF comms then? If everything needs a counter, why keep SWF? That by itself is a huge one sided advantage.
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My guy I would let it go. You can't drag yourself down his level. His stupidity will beat yours any day. Just do like I did and take a long break from DBD cause trust me..it's going downhill. They haven't brought many new people in even with free weekends. No one wants to play gen sim.
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His entire kit was built on that. Ever heard of stealth? How dare I hit you without letting you know first right? The audacity.
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I'm fine with being picked off gens, but not when there's no counter. Being able to see through walls with me not being able to do anything cause it's a closed map like Lery's or the Game or Hawkin's is bs. How is "I want an addon that shows the killer my location through walls to have a single counter" entitled?
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The Spirit has a whooshing sound, Ghostface has loud sounds, the Wraith has the bell... all those have a way to help survivors counter the Killer and be prepared. If you need to play a character that never lets survivors have any info to fight back, then you just want easy 4k
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I don't care about SWF because I don't play it and I'm a good enough killer to get 3k or 2k againt really good teams. I want both killers and survs to be balanced, but having a killer that not even a perk can help you fight back is broken
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Ya... unfortunately he can't seem to fathom one version of an undetectable stealth killer is not overpowered. This game is going downhill, I've noticed the same.
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Oh no, the perk that exist for the sole reason of giving you a warning works against Myers. Please make it so he shuts down a whole perk just by existing. No. If someone takes Spine Chill over the meta (adrenaline, dead hard/SB/BL, Decisive, and borrowed) then the least it can do is, you know, work.
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I’m a Michael main and I still get 4K scratched mirror games 7/10
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You must be ######### joking. Myers was always immune to any and all detection perks. For a reason . He is severely handicapped at the start of the game in Tier 1. He is supposed to ambush you. God forbid there is one killer that can actually ambush you without letting you know that they're coming right? Oh the audacity. How dare he?
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Not the point. I can win games, the very fact that he was denied his base kit for no reason at all is ######### ridiculous.
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Myers is more balanced than he was before, plus bringing spine chill is a waste of a perk slot that they could use to increase progress in a game. I main him, and I still get consistent 3k's and 4k's. All you really need to do is get better at him, because you apparently haven't given him enough time to get good perks and strategies for you to win. God forbid I actually have to try to get something good out of Myers.
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I'm Rank 1 Michael. Been maiming him since I got this game. Killing with him isn't my issue. That's not what I am getting at. His immunity removal wasn't necessary at all. That was my point. Maybe you should read my comment.
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Did you not read his entire post he's talking about tier 1 myers 😑
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