Toxicity... Again... Why...? Opinions?

Just don't use NOED, you seem decent enough to not need it. I know it can be important for trapper sometimes though. But NOED is a toxicity magnet. I'm never toxic, but i do have a rule to never say gg to a NOED player. If they win without it, good for you, you don't need it. It doesn't matter if i escape or not, i just don't like the perk and won't gg it. But alot of people just call you a noob or will be toxic because you use it. Even if it doesn't pop.

It's no different for killers man. I just try to make the game fun for everyone. If i bump into a wall as billy i look at the wall and smack it then go on my way. I don't tunnel and i never use the basement because its too strong. The only time i mori is if it's a daily. Lets be honest mori's aren't fun for any survivor. Making it funny and fun builds a community not tbagging and gloating killers.

If you can't break a totem to cleanse NOED you should probably play viva piñata 🤷‍♂️. People get so mad at NOED on survivor side. Like nearly everyone I match with. I'm always like, leave them on the hook and let's find the totem since we rushed, now it's broke save them. Ide go against NOED every game to never deal with a face camper who won't let you pull someone from hook because they will pull you off instead of hit you.

Here's the thing, Killers have their insurance Perk in the form of NOED and maybe Blood Warden (but that's a stretch). While Survivors have Dead Hard, Adrenaline, Sprint Burst, Balanced Landing, Lithe, Borrowed Time, Mettle of Man, and Decisive Strike all as insurance Perks, and they also have the Purple Insta-Heal add-on that gives a free hit too. So does it make Survivors noobs for using Perks that are super useful? No. But then it somehow makes Killers noobs for using their single super-powerful Perk. And as a reminder, NOED can be destroyed and can only be used at the end game. While all the Survivor perks (and add-on) I listed can be used throughout the entire trial and CAN'T be disabled in any way that will last the rest of the trial (with the exception of Adrenaline).

survivor mains get so salty when they lose, I personally just ignore them because they just want you to feed into their ignorance. There’s nothing wrong with what you did and NOED didn’t even play a part so idk he brought that up

That guy is an absolute toxic... Y'know what I mean. As a survivor main, people like this hurt me. There are a select many that are like this and it hurts the "survivor side" of the community. If any killer's read this, we're not all like this toxic David who couldn't win 'cause he stepped in an exit gate trap.

Lol at all the people still using the "OP" perk arguments. "OP" perks don't exist, they're just a myth. Perks are just perks, they revolve around gameplay style. Perks don't make up for lack of skill. They can help, but they don't really change the game much unless you know how to utilize them. Unless there's only two survivors left, NOED won't secure a 4K, unless the survivors are potatoes and panic. People need to stop bashing perks and just focus on their gameplay style. That goes for both killers and survivors. As far as the question goes:

Survivors tend to be toxic due to saltiness. Gameplay wise, survivors can't be toxic (unless people get sensitive about tbagging and emotes, which no one older than 10 should get sensitive over) however, their toxicity shows up post game or when they spectate after they die: The flood gates open and suddenly your inbox is full of toxic messages. The main reasons are due to these factors: Anger issues, Social Conditioning (I'll go more in depth with this one), Unrealistic expectations (expecting to win most games, expecting to go against potato killers, expecting to get good maps with good loops/borderline infinites, etc.).

Social Conditioning: Survivors see gameplay of DBD Streamers/YouTubers. They see them doing good loops, escaping a lot, etc. After watching such content over and over again, they subconsciously expect to do as well, and when they play, it doesn't happen, and thus they get mad. Mainly I'm talking about survivors who watch Ochido, the guy who goes against baby killers, which is why he's able to loop, juke, and do all that pro gamer stuff. People see Ochido do that, and they expect to do the same. What people forget is that they're in red, purple, and green ranks, which means they're going to go up against killers of the same ranks, not against baby killers like Ochido goes against. People figure this out the hard way, when they fail a 360 and get mind gamed at loops. They then get mad because they can't be like their idol, and the poor killers get tons of insults when all they did was just play the game as intended. The sad thing is, there's survivors that don't even have social conditioning and are just toxic about losing/doing bad and insult the killers anyway. The most heartbreaking example includes one of my friends. They are toxic, I hate to say it but they are toxic, gameplay wise. They always rage so much and really dampen the mood when I play swf with them. The worst part is, they always have to message the killer, they just can't let things go. The worst case was when we went up against a Ghostface on Autohaven. The Ghostface didn't tunnel, didn't camp, didn't slug, they just played fair and square and we lost. I don't know exactly what she messaged the Ghostface but she read to me their response and it was mostly "please just leave me alone, stop spamming me I was just playing the game". She really hurt her feelings over a fair killer. As a survivor main, I almost feel ashamed to be one. Personally, I don't get phased by words, I'm just that guy, and people often label me as a "oh you're some sort of tough guy wannabe, huh?" But I feel empathetic towards sensitive people, I just do. Unfortunately most survivor mains are just negative people who are, coincidentally, more evil than killers themselves. Sorry if it got a bit depressing with the story but I just wanted to show how toxic survivors can really be.

Sure, killers can tunnel, they can facecamp, they can slug, they can wack you while you're on the hook, but that isn't as toxic as trying to emotionally hurt people. I just hope one day my fellow survivor mains can just enjoy the game and accept that they won't always do good, and for the love of everything that is good on this world, don't spread negativity towards killers, just keep your salt to yourself.

I honestly don't know why so many people let the post-game chat make them angry. If you want to say GGs to try to be a good sport, say it and then leave. Why read these messages if they're so toxic and going to bother you? You have the ability to not participate in the chat, so don't.

Of course! I'm a survivor main myself, so I definitely know what it's like from that side of things. But at the same time, I can understand why some killer mains feel the way they do about survivors if they're constantly exposed to people like the ones described in this thread.

Toxicity rains in this game because it's all ranked based, so it encourages sweat, salt, and the downside of toxicity. The game needs a quick match mode and a ranked mode, so it's easier too both balance and too not have such a competitive environment.

Also never give them chances to escape unless you're an absolute legend who consistently 4Ks. You only shoot yourself in the foot and get hate at the end of the day.

Remember the names and if they squad up again, play Spirit with a Mother Daughter Ring/Father's Glasses w/ Blood Hound/Sloppy/Nurse's. Not saying I do this against SWFs that take a bully mentality...

While frustrating as it may be to go up against campers and tunnelers. It doesn't give someone the right to bombard another person with rude comments. And for the record I never said "people can play however they want and people should not get mad" There have been times myself where I have gotten extremely mad at some killers but do I go on their profiles and swear at them? No I turn off the game and play something else until I have calmed down. You'll find that half the reason why a killer camps and tunnels one survivor is because that survivor was most likely being toxic towards the killer, other times they will camp to secure a kill if the game is almost over and they haven't got a single kill. Not saying that the playstyle isn't scummy but that people shouldn't loose their s#it over a game.

And that's why I disable messages.