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As I always said, I love the Archives addition, I don't care at all about the Rift Pass since I'm not going to buy anything but I enjoy the concept of challenges, the lore and, well, some charms here and there are welcome.

What I don't like is that the designers that are in charge of challenges design are at the very least out of the loop of how the game is played, plus they have made some very questionable decisions in the concept of the Archives itself:

• only one challenge at a time - no matter if killer or survivor
• grinding challenges as gatekeepers
• seemingly random balance between survivor and killer challenges

What I hate is the lack of interaction between CM/Devs and players in regard of those challenges. Ok, they are going to fix Tome 3, but why are they? Because they know they did something wrong? Or simply because we flooded the forum and they had enough?

For example, take this BHVR statement:

What should I understand from this? That you are still thinking that Tome 3 challenges, as they were, were ok? I really would like to understand in how many matches they thought a solo player could achieve the 2 EGC safe unhooks, just to say one.

Also, should I deduce that a challenge like deplete 7 keys was in fact a "play 7 games"? That's where something is going really wrong in challenge design.

My experience with the Archives is a little rough because of being a Solo player.

I really like the challenges like "Escape once with Hope", "Trap 5 survivors in bear traps"

I really, I mean really dislike the "Unhook 25 Survivors", "Get 15 iridicent emblems"

Love the rewards, though even The Archives is giving me errors.

I love the addition of Archives, but dedicated servers and bad engine optimization has ruined my experience personally.

The Archives as a whole are very good for the game, but the challenges create a very unhealthy environment in the game. Amount of times I'll hook someone just for them too immediately get saved for farm is insane. The challenges were poorly thought out, and I don't think BHVR even tested them, it feels like they read them on paper, said "yea that will work." and didn't try it practically.

In hindsight I'm rather glad that they locked it to one challenge, period, because half the challenges were bugged such that you could earn progress based on what other people in the game were doing - for example, you could earn progress on a sacrifices challenge from others being sacrificed while playing as survivor. I'm sure they didn't lock the challenges for that reason, but as it turns out it was probably a good thing they did.

Less like being robbed, and more like the TV was out of stock. It would still be nice to buy it once the fixed version comes back into stock, and in the meantime it sucks that I didn't have a TV, but in hindsight it's probably a good thing I wasn't able to buy it, all things considered.

So you agree that to have both a killer and survivor challenge active at the same time is the right way to proceed or not?

User Experience is important in software design you know :P

I can imagine that it might be annoying to code, but I don't really see a problem with it. I guess I just don't see any burning need for it either.

I like lore, I like free stuff, I don't like challenges that ruin the normalcy of games, challenges that require luck, challenges that require like 10+ games, the fact that you can only progress one challenge at a time, the fact that lore is locked behind these tedious tasks. There is a lot wrong with the archive, the only time I felt like the challenges weren't too intrusive was tier 1. It has just gotten more ridiculous and unfun with each tier.

Fib, you are the end user, you shouldn’t care if something is “annoying to code” - would it improve your user experience, yes or no?

That’s my point.

I like the challenges, too. I still treat them as background goals that I specifically don't aim for in matches, but the occasional times I do try feels kinda good. I don't wanna throw for a challenge either and thankfully I don't THINK people do either (probably don't notice lol).

I just wish the challenges were almost like achievements. Something like the achievement about making the killer whiff, taking hits for others (well not now considering how awful the game registers it), maybe getting in a chase for x amount of seconds, or trying to not get hit for an x amount of seconds in chase, even being immersed in the terror radius for an x amount of seconds... Things that challenge us from our comfort zone.

I'm glad there are perk specific challenges, because it can encourage us to change up our builds or strategy. It's so interesting. I just tried a plundering build for the first time along with Pharmacy and it felt good to finally use instaheals after a year.

Borrowed time is not a safe unhook. A safe unhook is unhooking out of the killers TR and big AND, not getting hit for like 15 seconds.

Except with Borrowed Time the game counts being hit as safe because you're not likely to get hit again in that 15 seconds. You still get safe unhooks with Borrowed Time. It's only if you go down it counts as unsafe.

I have been having a super fun time with the Archives, almost level 60 in the rift with no purchased tiers. I also like a challenge which is why I’m about 60% done with tome III. Thanksgiving was great, turkey and loads of trials. I’m excited to reach 70 for that vial!!

I think people were bitching to an excessive amount about it, but a few did need to be adjusted.