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DCing

Master
Master Member Posts: 10,200

Another one of these posts.
Finally made it into the game.

First game I play as survivor against a doc, the 2 man SWF immediately DCs just becuase they verse a Doc, excuse me?

2nd game as hag, 1 loading screen DC, ingame another survivors immediately DCs.

Can we finally punish for DCing please? Im geting tired of it

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  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243
    I feel like if you DC, you'll need to wait 5 minutes before you can join another lobby. However keep in mind that sometimes it's the games fault for the DC because the game has kicked me out during the loading screen multiple amount of times before! :)
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Nickenzie said:
    I feel like if you DC, you'll need to wait 5 minutes before you can join another lobby. However keep in mind that sometimes it's the games fault for the DC because the game has kicked me out during the loading screen multiple amount of times before! :)

    Sure "somtimes".... 99% of the ingame DCs are ragequits

    There needs to be an incrasing punishment for several DCs

  • lyric
    lyric Member Posts: 611
    Master said:

    @Nickenzie said:
    I feel like if you DC, you'll need to wait 5 minutes before you can join another lobby. However keep in mind that sometimes it's the games fault for the DC because the game has kicked me out during the loading screen multiple amount of times before! :)

    Sure "somtimes".... 99% of the ingame DCs are ragequits

    There needs to be an incrasing punishment for several DCs

    You’re right and majority are rage quits, but there are a few cases where mine has blue screened in game if my app is left open, like when I leave and just hop back in without restarting the app hours later . One time I got a message from a 3 SWF and killer because I was in a chase , lost the killer and was walking up to a gen to help work on it and it blue screened. Survivors thought I was trying to spectate for the killer for some reason and the killer thought I was scared of his ivory mori but never was damaged lol , I think there should be a punishment for rage quit but for something out of your control or tech wise you shouldn’t get punished 
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @lyric said:
    Master said:

    @Nickenzie said:

    I feel like if you DC, you'll need to wait 5 minutes before you can join another lobby. However keep in mind that sometimes it's the games fault for the DC because the game has kicked me out during the loading screen multiple amount of times before! :)

    Sure "somtimes".... 99% of the ingame DCs are ragequits

    There needs to be an incrasing punishment for several DCs

    You’re right and majority are rage quits, but there are a few cases where mine has blue screened in game if my app is left open, like when I leave and just hop back in without restarting the app hours later . One time I got a message from a 3 SWF and killer because I was in a chase , lost the killer and was walking up to a gen to help work on it and it blue screened. Survivors thought I was trying to spectate for the killer for some reason and the killer thought I was scared of his ivory mori but never was damaged lol , I think there should be a punishment for rage quit but for something out of your control or tech wise you shouldn’t get punished 

    I never bluescreened in DBD.
    However, as you said, if it happens at all, then it is really rare and the time you need to restart your PC and get back into DBD should be around 5 minutes, which is the time punishment for the first DC in other competitive games. This time would increase if you DC regualrly

  • lyric
    lyric Member Posts: 611
    edited August 2018
    Master said:

    @lyric said:
    Master said:

    @Nickenzie said:

    I feel like if you DC, you'll need to wait 5 minutes before you can join another lobby. However keep in mind that sometimes it's the games fault for the DC because the game has kicked me out during the loading screen multiple amount of times before! :)

    Sure "somtimes".... 99% of the ingame DCs are ragequits

    There needs to be an incrasing punishment for several DCs

    You’re right and majority are rage quits, but there are a few cases where mine has blue screened in game if my app is left open, like when I leave and just hop back in without restarting the app hours later . One time I got a message from a 3 SWF and killer because I was in a chase , lost the killer and was walking up to a gen to help work on it and it blue screened. Survivors thought I was trying to spectate for the killer for some reason and the killer thought I was scared of his ivory mori but never was damaged lol , I think there should be a punishment for rage quit but for something out of your control or tech wise you shouldn’t get punished 

    I never bluescreened in DBD.
    However, as you said, if it happens at all, then it is really rare and the time you need to restart your PC and get back into DBD should be around 5 minutes, which is the time punishment for the first DC in other competitive games. This time would increase if you DC regualrly

    I play on PS4 is why it was a bluescreen, it’s common when a app is open for hours on end in the background and you just pick right back up at the menu instead of restarting, I agree with a time punishment for DC but if we’re going that far then there should also be a certain ping rate requirement to be able to start a game and if you lobby dodge from a clean good connection you deserve your time ban. People say they shouldn’t be forced to play with  SWF  or flashlights but the devs claim they want survivor mode based around that even in solo, to have that team connection without speaking and items are apart of the game you’re not good if you dodge a item , so would you include killers and survivors in that rule for lobby dodging along with dc?
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @lyric said:
    Master said:

    @lyric said:

    Master said:

    @Nickenzie said:
    
    I feel like if you DC, you'll need to wait 5 minutes before you can join another lobby. However keep in mind that sometimes it's the games fault for the DC because the game has kicked me out during the loading screen multiple amount of times before! :)
    
    
    
    Sure "somtimes".... 99% of the ingame DCs are ragequits
    
    There needs to be an incrasing punishment for several DCs
    

    You’re right and majority are rage quits, but there are a few cases where mine has blue screened in game if my app is left open, like when I leave and just hop back in without restarting the app hours later . One time I got a message from a 3 SWF and killer because I was in a chase , lost the killer and was walking up to a gen to help work on it and it blue screened. Survivors thought I was trying to spectate for the killer for some reason and the killer thought I was scared of his ivory mori but never was damaged lol , I think there should be a punishment for rage quit but for something out of your control or tech wise you shouldn’t get punished 

    I never bluescreened in DBD.

    However, as you said, if it happens at all, then it is really rare and the time you need to restart your PC and get back into DBD should be around 5 minutes, which is the time punishment for the first DC in other competitive games. This time would increase if you DC regualrly

    I play on PS4 is why it was a bluescreen, it’s common when a app is open for hours on end in the background and you just pick right back up at the menu instead of restarting, I agree with a time punishment for DC but if we’re going that far then there should also be a certain ping rate requirement to be able to start a game and if you lobby dodge from a clean good connection you deserve your time ban. People say they shouldn’t be forced to play with  SWF  or flashlights but the devs claim they want survivor mode based around that even in solo, to have that team connection without speaking and items are apart of the game you’re not good if you dodge a item , so would you include killers and survivors in that rule for lobby dodging along with dc?

    its literally impossible to introduce ping requirements as long as the game is P2P. You need dedicated servers for that. Till we get those (never) we will have to adjust pings by dodging.

    The difference with lobby dodging is that you can easily create a new game and nothign was lost. DCing ingame however is acompletely different story, you lose all offerings, a lot of time and even addons as killer.
    Also it ruins the game for the reamining survivors.

    Sure, it would be the ultimate goal to make lobby dodging punishable too in a ranked game (just like MOBAs where you actually lose elo if you dodge during selection), but at the moment we are miles away from making that possible, one step at a time

  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243
    Master said:

    I never bluescreened in DBD.
    However, as you said, if it happens at all, then it is really rare and the time you need to restart your PC and get back into DBD should be around 5 minutes, which is the time punishment for the first DC in other competitive games. This time would increase if you DC regualrly

    I play DbD on console and sometimes my console is like "Nun huh! No DbD for you!" Then it kicks me from the loading to screen to my dashboard! :(
    I was thinking that the punishment time should scaled by 1.5 every time you leave and then rounded to the nearest minute so... it will look like this in a geometric sequence! Your punishment time will reset every season so you can't just keep DCing.

    5/8/11/17/25/...
  • samirk98
    samirk98 Member Posts: 167

    0 point and lose of 3 pips is already punishment

  • Demonsouls1993
    Demonsouls1993 Member Posts: 261
    samirk98 said:

    0 point and lose of 3 pips is already punishment

    That would be punishing if people cared for that and I know they don't cuz they still rage quit anyway
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @samirk98 said:
    0 point and lose of 3 pips is already punishment

    Apparently its not enough punishment

  • samirk98
    samirk98 Member Posts: 167

    @Master said:

    @samirk98 said:
    0 point and lose of 3 pips is already punishment

    Apparently its not enough punishment

    so do u have any suggestion?

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @samirk98 said:

    @Master said:

    @samirk98 said:
    0 point and lose of 3 pips is already punishment

    Apparently its not enough punishment

    so do u have any suggestion?

    1st DC 5 min queue bann
    2nd DC 15 min queu ebann
    3rd DC 40 min bann

    etc etc
    Let the timer reset after an appropiate time or number of matches palyed

    Thats the system almost every competitive games uses (sometimes they even bann you completely from ranked for some time), I dont see why it shouldnt be applied to DBD

  • campasaurus
    campasaurus Member Posts: 60
    it has gotten out of hand.
  • Delfador
    Delfador Member Posts: 2,552

    I feel like DC's punishment should be 10 minutes. If a match lasts longer than 10 mins, survivor or killer who DC should not get a punishment. In that way we can still DC if a survivor or killer holds the game hostage.

    The reason why it should be 10 mins is because you will get 2 options. You will either stay and get your points and play the game for 10 mins or you can quit the game and wait for the next game.

  • samirk98
    samirk98 Member Posts: 167

    @Master said:

    @samirk98 said:

    @Master said:

    @samirk98 said:
    0 point and lose of 3 pips is already punishment

    Apparently its not enough punishment

    so do u have any suggestion?

    1st DC 5 min queue bann
    2nd DC 15 min queu ebann
    3rd DC 40 min bann

    etc etc
    Let the timer reset after an appropiate time or number of matches palyed

    Thats the system almost every competitive games uses (sometimes they even bann you completely from ranked for some time), I dont see why it shouldnt be applied to DBD

    well they giving soft ban for dc but u need to dc like from 99.9 %games lol
    im agree nice idea to punish ragequitters if they cannot take pressure they should uninstall and not ruin other people's game

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    The issue is that the game on pc crashes during loading screen and you either get an error message saying what happened or none at all. There's the can't move bug that still hits people and the solutions don't always work. I've had friends internet or pc reset during loading screen or in game in match.

    I've been in games as both killer and survivor where the game just blows up and either crashes me to the desktop and says nothing. Sometimes it'll say error code x etc as the reason but most times it's nothing. So you can't even send in an error report for debugging.

    The quits in game are frustrating since I've been Pig and Trapper on some amps and people load in and instantly bail. They'll also do that on 1st hit, 1st down or 1st hook etc and that can lead to a chain of them. I always try and let the survivors farm at that point and farm myself as well which is easier now with the rank 15 buffer. (I'm taking it easy this season not really trying to do anything other than farm and try out different things as killer)

    I used to never rage quit but now that' I've hit rank 1 I've actually done it a few times when faced with a hacker or toxic killer I had the same Legacy Nurse with wall hack and aimbot straight matches. I know she was hacking and aimbotting because she'd start the match and automatically blink right to a survivor who she never knew was there and couldn't have seen.

    She also had the legacy skin given out on Nov 24, 2016 but the account wasn't created until June 2017 so they used the hack to give themselves everything. I also recorded video from spec mode and watched her glide across maps and nail people she had no way of knowing were there.

    She even would fully charge blinks with 2x less accuracy addons yet her blink for the 2nd hit would magically stop and turn and change angles to hit the survivor. I just started quitting on her as did solo queue people because they didn't want to reward the jerk.

    I don't like the rage quits but can understand them as well when it's a toxic killer or survivor.

  • yeet
    yeet Member Posts: 1,832
    survivors often DC because they think it "punishes" the killer, despite it helping the killer
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @powerbats said:
    The issue is that the game on pc crashes during loading screen and you either get an error message saying what happened or none at all. There's the can't move bug that still hits people and the solutions don't always work. I've had friends internet or pc reset during loading screen or in game in match.

    I've been in games as both killer and survivor where the game just blows up and either crashes me to the desktop and says nothing. Sometimes it'll say error code x etc as the reason but most times it's nothing. So you can't even send in an error report for debugging.

    The quits in game are frustrating since I've been Pig and Trapper on some amps and people load in and instantly bail. They'll also do that on 1st hit, 1st down or 1st hook etc and that can lead to a chain of them. I always try and let the survivors farm at that point and farm myself as well which is easier now with the rank 15 buffer. (I'm taking it easy this season not really trying to do anything other than farm and try out different things as killer)

    I used to never rage quit but now that' I've hit rank 1 I've actually done it a few times when faced with a hacker or toxic killer I had the same Legacy Nurse with wall hack and aimbot straight matches. I know she was hacking and aimbotting because she'd start the match and automatically blink right to a survivor who she never knew was there and couldn't have seen.

    She also had the legacy skin given out on Nov 24, 2016 but the account wasn't created until June 2017 so they used the hack to give themselves everything. I also recorded video from spec mode and watched her glide across maps and nail people she had no way of knowing were there.

    She even would fully charge blinks with 2x less accuracy addons yet her blink for the 2nd hit would magically stop and turn and change angles to hit the survivor. I just started quitting on her as did solo queue people because they didn't want to reward the jerk.

    I don't like the rage quits but can understand them as well when it's a toxic killer or survivor.

    A crash in the loading screen already doesnt count as normal DC, so it shouldnt be affected by the system anyway. Ultimately it happens so rarely that I think a 5 min timer would be fine, assuming that it triggers the system.

    I know the game crashes frequently, but I would prefer having to wait 5 min after the crash instead of countless games ruined by ragequits, I assume you think the same, do you?

    And if you face a hacker you shoudl be fine to DC and wait a few mins since you dont usually DC, right?

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Master said:

    A crash in the loading screen already doesnt count as normal DC, so it shouldnt be affected by the system anyway. Ultimately it happens so rarely that I think a 5 min timer would be fine, assuming that it triggers the system.

    I know the game crashes frequently, but I would prefer having to wait 5 min after the crash instead of countless games ruined by ragequits, I assume you think the same, do you?

    And if you face a hacker you shoudl be fine to DC and wait a few mins since you dont usually DC, right?

    I usually wait a few minutes after a crash just to be safe the same way in other games. I think a game crash after another game crash should implement a lobby timer at least. So if you crash and then play another game and crash you should have a lobby timer wait. On pc it should require a game cache integrity check., not sure how the consoles handle it.

    As far as dcing goes no I generally don't do that and only started doing it recently but it's still pretty rare overall. Out of may'be 1k game sor so don't know how many probably no more than 10-15 games and all within the last month.

    I just wish they'd finally get dedicated servers setup since that'd solve so many problems all at once. You'd have hackers disappear pretty quickly, ping issues could be solved. The people who quit rather more often than would be normal get nailed automatically etc.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @powerbats said:

    @Master said:

    A crash in the loading screen already doesnt count as normal DC, so it shouldnt be affected by the system anyway. Ultimately it happens so rarely that I think a 5 min timer would be fine, assuming that it triggers the system.

    I know the game crashes frequently, but I would prefer having to wait 5 min after the crash instead of countless games ruined by ragequits, I assume you think the same, do you?

    And if you face a hacker you shoudl be fine to DC and wait a few mins since you dont usually DC, right?

    I usually wait a few minutes after a crash just to be safe the same way in other games. I think a game crash after another game crash should implement a lobby timer at least. So if you crash and then play another game and crash you should have a lobby timer wait. On pc it should require a game cache integrity check., not sure how the consoles handle it.

    As far as dcing goes no I generally don't do that and only started doing it recently but it's still pretty rare overall. Out of may'be 1k game sor so don't know how many probably no more than 10-15 games and all within the last month.

    I just wish they'd finally get dedicated servers setup since that'd solve so many problems all at once. You'd have hackers disappear pretty quickly, ping issues could be solved. The people who quit rather more often than would be normal get nailed automatically etc.

    Dedicated servers wouldnt do anything against hacking and in order to automatically punish DCs, you dont need dedicated servers either

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Master said:

    @powerbats said:

    @Master said:

    A crash in the loading screen already doesnt count as normal DC, so it shouldnt be affected by the system anyway. Ultimately it happens so rarely that I think a 5 min timer would be fine, assuming that it triggers the system.

    I know the game crashes frequently, but I would prefer having to wait 5 min after the crash instead of countless games ruined by ragequits, I assume you think the same, do you?

    And if you face a hacker you shoudl be fine to DC and wait a few mins since you dont usually DC, right?

    I usually wait a few minutes after a crash just to be safe the same way in other games. I think a game crash after another game crash should implement a lobby timer at least. So if you crash and then play another game and crash you should have a lobby timer wait. On pc it should require a game cache integrity check., not sure how the consoles handle it.

    As far as dcing goes no I generally don't do that and only started doing it recently but it's still pretty rare overall. Out of may'be 1k game sor so don't know how many probably no more than 10-15 games and all within the last month.

    I just wish they'd finally get dedicated servers setup since that'd solve so many problems all at once. You'd have hackers disappear pretty quickly, ping issues could be solved. The people who quit rather more often than would be normal get nailed automatically etc.

    Dedicated servers wouldnt do anything against hacking and in order to automatically punish DCs, you dont need dedicated servers either

    Well with dedicated they could go VAC bans and detection and dedicated would also allow for much easier tracking that is now possible.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200
    powerbats said:

    @Master said:

    @powerbats said:

    @Master said:

    A crash in the loading screen already doesnt count as normal DC, so it shouldnt be affected by the system anyway. Ultimately it happens so rarely that I think a 5 min timer would be fine, assuming that it triggers the system.

    I know the game crashes frequently, but I would prefer having to wait 5 min after the crash instead of countless games ruined by ragequits, I assume you think the same, do you?

    And if you face a hacker you shoudl be fine to DC and wait a few mins since you dont usually DC, right?

    I usually wait a few minutes after a crash just to be safe the same way in other games. I think a game crash after another game crash should implement a lobby timer at least. So if you crash and then play another game and crash you should have a lobby timer wait. On pc it should require a game cache integrity check., not sure how the consoles handle it.

    As far as dcing goes no I generally don't do that and only started doing it recently but it's still pretty rare overall. Out of may'be 1k game sor so don't know how many probably no more than 10-15 games and all within the last month.

    I just wish they'd finally get dedicated servers setup since that'd solve so many problems all at once. You'd have hackers disappear pretty quickly, ping issues could be solved. The people who quit rather more often than would be normal get nailed automatically etc.

    Dedicated servers wouldnt do anything against hacking and in order to automatically punish DCs, you dont need dedicated servers either

    Well with dedicated they could go VAC bans and detection and dedicated would also allow for much easier tracking that is now possible.

    Every DC is already tracked, devs just decided not to punish then 
  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Master said:

    Every DC is already tracked, devs just decided not to punish then 

    to an extent yes, but they have done some good sized ban waves of varying degrees. On both Reddit and their official site they've talked about this. Some of these are quitting and some are for hacking but they're going after the easy hanging fruit so to speak. I used to admin both Vac secured and on Vac secured servers and Vac servers are much easier to deal with bad behavior of any kind.

    With their own servers running they could much deal with it more promptly and with less effort than they do now for better results. That'd also be good for when they rewrite the code and do major updates since the hosts can't ahem always run things well.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200
    powerbats said:

    @Master said:

    Every DC is already tracked, devs just decided not to punish then 

    to an extent yes, but they have done some good sized ban waves of varying degrees. On both Reddit and their official site they've talked about this. Some of these are quitting and some are for hacking but they're going after the easy hanging fruit so to speak. I used to admin both Vac secured and on Vac secured servers and Vac servers are much easier to deal with bad behavior of any kind.

    With their own servers running they could much deal with it more promptly and with less effort than they do now for better results. That'd also be good for when they rewrite the code and do major updates since the hosts can't ahem always run things well.




    Sure it would be easier with dedicated server. But it will take ages till we get them, if we gt them at all....


    Dcig as become so comments,  that there needs to be taken action IMMEDIATELy

  • ChraizE
    ChraizE Member Posts: 232

    deliberate DC should be punished. locked out for 2 hours / 4 hours / 12 hours and 24 hours.