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Dead By Daylight In Its Current State

This is going to be my thoughts and my opinion about dead by daylight at its current state


Dedicated Servers

I'm pretty sure we all know dedicated servers is the reason of hit-boxes being horrible at the moment, and/or thats the speculation although dedicated servers where supposed to fix hit-boxes i find myself getting hit through so much more then i should be, and used to be and we're not even going to go into hatchet hit-boxes because that ######### is dumb asf with how large they are

Poor Map Design

So we all have seen the PTB with Balanced Landing getting its Nerf, although Why? its been the same for 3 years now and because of the poor map design you're going to change the perk and not map design? and dont save harvesters if you're a killer main, ussylis literally made a video running the harvesters just as well without balanced landing, I know people are going to comment about me saying this but i honestly feel like half the killers the want nerfs are baby's like lets look at the logic in this

Perk : Joins meta after 3 years

Perk : Now gets nerfed because people are using it and killers don't get a down when they should because of a PERK that's supposed to HELP you survive

Also not to mention, someone on Reddit (i know garbage website but whatever) pulled up some statistic, Weird, Survivors aren't surviving anymore.

Perks

Perks , Most perks that dont need a nerf dont get nerfed kinda simple, but there's no reason to nerf certain perks Such as balanced landing, (yes i know i just covered this topic up there but still its been the same for 3 years now its getting nerfed bruh ????)

Noed : <-- Your everyday fair and balanced perk that doesn't need a rework because people defiantly do not complain about how utterly broken it is and totems are a waste of time to do although noed is fair boys

My Thoughts and General Discussion

The game at the moment (For survivor side) is utterly annoying, and obnoxious to play, and I find myself actually raging at this game of which i haven't done for this game before since i purchased it, I honestly do not think the devs play their own game, otherwise they would realize things earlier before they become a "problem" in the meta, i.E. Sprint burst took almost 2 years for a exhaustion nerf, deadhard flying too about a year and a half,Balanced 3 years, Noed got buffed?

The discord, i don't want to talk badly about it although i have to because i had started talking about balanced landing and how its been in the game for 3 years, then people would just talk over me with a normal conversation with #game-discussion , now im banned from the discord but honestly i couldn't care less atm with how this game is going, this games unique and its hard to balanced and i understand that and how killer is the power role but holy ######### you've allowed killers to be the power role over you the creators of the game get bitched up by the killers for a nerf of a perk

To many complaints? Nerfed, Not even tested just nerfed like bruh #########? Ds was trying to be balanced for years by the devs and it finally is , Ds was out of the meta for maybe a weak, then people relised it was a anti-tunneling perk and used it again Now its being talked about again , like please explain this logic in your head, a Perk can never be talked about, Enter the meta, Be nerfed, and some undoubtedly might need that nerf but others not so much, Survivor gets nerfed, every ######### day like oh my god when will it stop? survivor is horribly obnoxious to play atm, you get hit through practically everything, Spirit banned for shittalking someone who was being a cuck the whole game and ######### talking as-well, i don't understand this game or how its ran, although if a Developer would comment and tell me their thoughts about this i wouldn't take it with a grain of salt


and no this is not bait

Comments

  • lostkq
    lostkq Member Posts: 162

    i might as well play cracked dbd back when the game was actually half decent

  • Andreyu44
    Andreyu44 Member Posts: 1,527

    Game was half decent when the clown chapter came in.

    Good matchmaking,good killer,good balance changes,balanced map,better graphics,better HUD, decent framerate...

  • FriendlyGuy
    FriendlyGuy Member Posts: 2,768

    But you realise, that most decent survivors were able to run 90% of the killers for five gens with BL and DH equipped?

  • lostkq
    lostkq Member Posts: 162

    im not being biased? i was being the least biased in the game discussion on discord getting shut out and please do not talk about biased considering the devs have no brain coming to biasedy considering they made tyde time a fog whisperer, also just because im talking about one side doesnt make me biased.

  • lostkq
    lostkq Member Posts: 162

    yeah 2.0.0 good times, back when vaccuum wasnt a thing anymore, so you actually had to have skill to loop a pallet and hitboxes where atleast better then they where smh i miss this game back in the day

  • lostkq
    lostkq Member Posts: 162

    dh

    balanced

    Both exhaustion perks, Either way dh lets you take another swing but do you just relise what you said? Just because a survivor has BL equiped with dh doesnt mean their going to use it in a chase, You relise no ones going to be looping you if they want to effectively use that build on anything with fall down spots because they want to use balanced till their injured, And injured increase of speed doesnt do much for distance it just allows you to make some distance to a pallet if there is one, so i dont get your statement, and Poor map design should not make a perk get nerfed, im gonna wait for the new update and stream snipe true with a coldwind offering just to run him on tractor with only deadhard and adrenaline

  • lostkq
    lostkq Member Posts: 162

    dh

    balanced

    Both exhaustion perks, Either way dh lets you take another swing but do you just relise what you said? Just because a survivor has BL equiped with dh doesnt mean their going to use it in a chase, You relise no ones going to be looping you if they want to effectively use that build on anything with fall down spots because they want to use balanced till their injured, And injured increase of speed doesnt do much for distance it just allows you to make some distance to a pallet if there is one, so i dont get your statement, and Poor map design should not make a perk get nerfed, im gonna wait for the new update and stream snipe true with a coldwind offering just to run him on tractor with only deadhard and adrenaline

    edit : also, Balanced is situational and deadhard isnt really you caqn use it anywhere you want if youre injured and if youre injured youre most-likely in a chase

  • lostkq
    lostkq Member Posts: 162

    It did need a nerf although not to that extent ,Nerfing the stun time to 50% instead of 75% probably wouldve made it just fine, aswell as the new "100% less sound while falling" doesnt really do anything because most drop spots include a vault and you arent going to vault it with balanced unless you really dont care omegalul but you have to fast vault it making the sound part completely useless and hills are too open if thats what they want that to be used on, maybe iron works could work but thats about it

  • thesuicidefox
    thesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,223

    Because the maps let them.

    Try to do this with BL on Autohaven maps. I'll wait for your video...

  • FriendlyGuy
    FriendlyGuy Member Posts: 2,768

    I have no idea what you want to tell me with that WoT.

  • FriendlyGuy
    FriendlyGuy Member Posts: 2,768

    The maps are the reason, the players are basically forced to abuse spots like the strode house. Sure thing m8.

    I think BHVR wanted to save resources and nerfed balanced instead of reworking multiple maps

  • thesuicidefox
    thesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,223

    Except that Strode house, tractor, Ormond house, Game... are all STILL problems without Balanced Landing. It's only going to be slightly better with a BL nerf.

    What they did won't fix anything. They HAVE TO fix the maps if they want to actually solve these problems.

  • FriendlyGuy
    FriendlyGuy Member Posts: 2,768

    No one would complain, if the nerf wouldn't make things better for killers.

  • Viracocha72
    Viracocha72 Member Posts: 207

    When are you all going to realize that they fixed BL to be able to have more freedom putting vertical elements in maps like the new one? It's not that hard to figure out. And no amount of whining about it is going to make them suddenly change their mind and not fix it. So you're literally yelling into the wind here, wasting your breath. So do yourself a favor quit whining and get over it already. Personally I'm going to continue using it on my survivors because I never abused it like you all obviously did who are whining about it. So get over the fact that your got your crutch perk fixed the way it's supposed to be.

  • lostkq
    lostkq Member Posts: 162


    for one , i barally used balanced and the only time i did was back in 1.6 when i didnt enjoy using sprint burst for 2 i use deadhard and for 3 just because im whining about a perk thats been the same since 1.6 doesnt make me whining about a perk, im using my brain libtard, if a perks been the same for 3 years never touched and now is being complained about dont you think theres somethign wrong with that?

  • lostkq
    lostkq Member Posts: 162

    stop using tractor as a ######### reason bro, ussylis made a video of him still running it the same way WITHOUT balanced, all balanced does is help with the loop by giving you speed , it gives you more room for error, Poor map design shouldnt change a perk

  • thesuicidefox
    thesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,223

    ???

    I'm agreeing with you that BL didn't need changes, it was the map design that needed a fix. Not sure what you're point here is.

  • Viracocha72
    Viracocha72 Member Posts: 207

    You obviously didn't read the first part that I wrote. They only changed it NOW so that they can put more vertical elements in maps like the new one that is coming out. Is that really so hard to understand? And thanks for the "libtard", that honestly gave me a good laugh, not sure where it came from though. I didn't know people actually use that term in real conversation and not being sarcastic.

  • ahandfulofrain
    ahandfulofrain Member Posts: 528

    Maybe you need to chill tf out and realize that you're biased to the survivor side. BL needed the nerf; it's down to the level of the other exhaustion perks now.

  • CrowFoxy
    CrowFoxy Member Posts: 1,310

    Noed is so ez to counter. I've done it as solo surv a ton of times lmao. Do totems, don't focus gens super hard and do some totems.

  • Venoxxie
    Venoxxie Member Posts: 300

    Hit boxes were a problem before dedicated servers, I think the servers are fine. Next,

    Being a survivor main, I never use BL anyway it's extremely situational and I'm rarely ever on a good map to use it when I do put it on or am never in the right spot at the right time to use it. Plus, it's the most op exhaust addon when you do get the chance to use it so I feel the nerf is needed. Maps are fine too so idk what the problem is there. Next,

    Noed is fair the same way perks like DS are. The title of another thread I saw at one point recently said "DS rewards failure" or something like that. DS encourages getting downed after being hooked which is what you want to AVOID. The same way that Noed encourages leaving survivors alive 'til the end game which you want to kill survivors BEFORE that happens. Noed is basically a perk for killers who admit they are bad at killer. HOWEVER, perks like this are counterable, you can punish the killer for bringing Noed by breaking totems which are CLEARLY not a waste of time if you hate noed that much and if you choose to leave the totems up, guess what, YOU are at fault. Next,

    I don't see a problem. I just don't. At least not in the things you mention.

  • Herbalyte
    Herbalyte Member Posts: 45

    Careful, your survivor bias is showing. You know damn well why MoM was nerfed. 4 free hits every match for basically doing nothing. Killers are working against a clock. I agree with the balanced landing changes but I'd rather they change the perk than spend 2 years fixing maps for infinites to be ruled out. Not only that but even without balanced landing the new badham maps are full of near infinites like the school and that house with the basement, this makes me lose a lot of faith in the devs as they were rambling about "loop money" during their anniversary stream amd how they were going to allow more mindgameable pallets to spawn with the map reworks. You complain about NOED but the perk can easily be destroyed even before it can activate. Don't make a post like this if you can't look at the facts but rather want to only push buffs for your side you are clearly biased towards and only nerfs for the other while ranting about how OP perks on your side get nerfed.

  • UlvenDagoth
    UlvenDagoth Member Posts: 3,535

    All they did was bring Balanced Landing in line with other Exhaustion perks. It used to give you a ton even while you were exhausted, that was the issue. Now it doesn't.

  • concious_consumer
    concious_consumer Member Posts: 282

    At this point they could as well bring back pallet vacuum back and people would still get magical hits with 60ms.

    I can't wait for more survivor nerfs. Reading about long killer ques will be hillarious while playing other games.

  • lostkq
    lostkq Member Posts: 162

    How so, Poor map design Shouldnt alter a perk, and just because it gives you a sprint bust while running off things and mutes youre fall sound doesnt do much, Most dropdowns INCLUDE a window, You wont be able to properly use that to youre advantage if youre trying to a escape considering you have to fastvault if youre in a chase

  • lostkq
    lostkq Member Posts: 162

    bAiT

    thats all you killers say to survivor posts on here either its bait, its biased, or you bring up small little things wrong with the post that doesnt even matter, please dont act like this is bait mr wraith profile because considering wraith is your profile i think you main him, therefore you probably dont even knoe what the best killers are or how the game works for survivor atm , please play matches as survivor and try to play for gens, looping and for jukes, but be a team player like i am and do gens if u need, but this bait dont listen its bait guys.

  • lostkq
    lostkq Member Posts: 162

    i NEVER ONCE brought up MoM, killers worked against the clock? you seem young trying to put BIG words to make you sound like you know what you're talking about although MoM was a issue, and i still agree with the change , i had a argument with someone in demis discord about mom not coming back, because they said it would be fine with a mending timer, although it really wouldn't, anyways anyways please bring up something i never brought up to help your argument, Just because of POOR map design not allowing KILLERs to catch SOMEONE should not change a perk, You fail to realize balanced as a perk has been the same since it got buffed to add speed, you realize the devs ADDED speed to it because it was weak without it, Just because the devs don't have the time to change their maps shouldn't ask for a poor little change on a perk that's been the same for 3 years, almost 4 Anyways Thanks for reading this and trying to use something never talked about in this post to your advantage in this argument although it never really helped you it made you look dumber <3

  • lostkq
    lostkq Member Posts: 162

    @Peanits What are your thoughts on this post? Please give some criticism from a developers standpoint <3

  • DaGreenBolt
    DaGreenBolt Member Posts: 453

    Yeah okay, first Balanced landing gives reduced stagger and 150% movement speed and gives exhaustion. While exhausted, you still get a reduced stagger, which shouldn't happen because no other exhaustion perk still gives a benefit while exhausted.

    So @UlvenDagoth is right, the perk is being set in line with other exhaustion perks.

    Also the factor you get no noise when you drop makes it easier to mindgame a killer.

    Also your post barely talks about DBD in its current state, and infact just mainly rants about a BL nerf. I was expect maybe you would talk about gen times or how there are too many safe pallets and abuseable infinites that are still in the game, but I was wrong to expect that.

    Also NOED can be completely countered before it even gets activated, sorry if doing 5 totems is "too long" even though you get 1K BP for each one destroyed.

  • Mister_xD
    Mister_xD Member Posts: 7,669

    hmm..

    honestly, this seems like you only really looked at it from the survivor perspective.


    i would recommend you to play killer for an extended periode of time tbh.

    your view might change drastically.

  • lostkq
    lostkq Member Posts: 162

    bro, understand this, ever since ONE PERSON said that now everyone uses it as an arguement that OH OTHER PERKS DONT DO THAT dudududududu , just because its unique doesnt mean jack #########, although you dont get a stagger , isnt that the point? i mean its called BALANCED LANDING , so if you FALL you dont get a stagger, and please dont bring up noed as most people complain about adrenaline , and ds , If you dont want them to use adrenaline pressure gens not to be done, if you dont want them to use DS then dont pickup the person who just got off hook, if you dont want them to use balanced dont chase them near a high surface, pretty simple just like noed huh and yes it kinda does talk about DBD in its current state, IM TALKING ABOUT SURVIVOR SIDE, at the time and im bringing up things that are being changed IN ITS CURRENT STATE, anyways NO NOISE does NOTHING at ALL and is VERY situational, You relise you mostlikely WONT drop down if you arent in a chase with balanced, With no noise it does practically nothing, because most drop downs have a vault, and if your getting chased youre going to fast vault, either way the only time that it would be usefull (the 100% less noise) is on iron works and thats about it, although the perk is getting gutted "its now on par with other exhaustion perks" no its not, you fall off of something for sprint burst, thats cool even though only some spots have hills/drop downs and one map doesnt even have those at all, so its practically a waste of a perk,

  • lostkq
    lostkq Member Posts: 162

    sir i play killer would you like a screenshot? Also I said im talking survivor side, no ######### im only talking about one side, i said im only going to talk about survivor side, I mainly play survivor more then i play killer so obviously i notice more on survivor then killer , although i dont think you relise how survivor is maybe play survivor and your view might change drastically.


  • NullEXE
    NullEXE Member Posts: 1,632
    edited December 2019

    The problem wasn't even Balanced Landing. The problem was that gens only take 4 minutes to complete all 5, and there is 4-5 pallets at each gen. Reduce the pallets, make being injured reduce repair speed, or change all the maps to make more pallets dangerous to stay at after you drop them.

    Also NOED is over credited. The only time I ever see it work as a red rank myself, and seeing other red ranks streaming, is when the survivors deliberately play poorly and don't just escape when they should be. When any good killer would just take a perk that is more consistent through out the entire match, over the one perk that is only good at the end of the match.

  • Galklife
    Galklife Member Posts: 726

    @lostkq i dont know if someone told you that already if not i will do that, if yup i will repeat:

    BL was buffed in patch 2.0.0 and if you know that youre hypocrite, if you dont know youre talking like you know everything but instead you dont know crap and if anything comparing BL to 3 years ago its getting buffed xd (buff from 2.0.0 is getting removed and sth new is getting added)

    about joining meta "after 3 years" some ppl were using them before buff in 2.0 and even when you think about base BL there was less maps that you could use BL on that effectively, and buff in 2.0 made some ppl run it but only in past couple months ppl started using BL to create infinite loops (well everybody knew about haddonfield but there is much more infinites with BL)

    about what you wrote

    about maps (they are bad but that didnt changed, pls fix maps and remove bloodlust)

    dedicated servers community got what they cried for it, and amount of trash talk devs got because of delaying them was monkaS

    and i know i will be called killer main and tbh i enjoy being called entitled killer main 5 min after being called entitled surv main (because for this community ppl like me that play both sides dont exist)

  • lostkq
    lostkq Member Posts: 162

    You seem to be wrong, Maybe check up before you post this, It got changed in 1.1 To speed, And i actually looked on the wiki to make sure, You are wrong sorry bud

    and no i wont call you a killer main considering you gave some genuine criticism instead of saying it was bait or using a small excuse for why its being nerfed

  • Galklife
    Galklife Member Posts: 726

    @lostkq i guess im wrong (tbh i never used that on survs i dont like map dependent perks)

    and i wouldnt mind that perk only if it didnt create new (true) infinites that pretty much dont have outplay(like in grim pantry, haddon, demis map) and i would rather see that stagger effect on separate CD than exhaustion

    but this perk has too many flaws (nerf wont fix those) its useless or broken depends on map ;/ (shelter woods vs haddon for example)

  • Taboo
    Taboo Member Posts: 6

    https://clips.twitch.tv/RacyRoundPidgeonMingLee just felt like sharing this with all of you.

  • Taboo
    Taboo Member Posts: 6
  • GodDamn_Angela
    GodDamn_Angela Member Posts: 2,213

    "So we all have seen the PTB with Balanced Landing getting its Nerf, although Why? its been the same for 3 years now and because of the poor map design you're going to change the perk and not map design? "

    Lmao. The fact that you don't see how ludicrous this statement is says a lot about you.

  • lostkq
    lostkq Member Posts: 162

    considering you never used any evidence to backup your statement shows alot about you aswell

  • Waffleyumboy
    Waffleyumboy Member Posts: 7,318

    Game's annoying, sure, but could be a lot worse. Survivor is still fun to play with friends and new ranking system means every survivor is the same rank.

  • lostkq
    lostkq Member Posts: 162

    yeah it does have its ups although at this moment i cant play the games being honestly dumb and not letting me play, its got ai nitiliation error that wont go away

    Gonna try restarting my steam ig

  • KuromiStarwind
    KuromiStarwind Member Posts: 325
    edited December 2019

    This is just an incoherent vomit of words that have no real point other than someone mindlessly complaining. If you're going to make an argument you could at least format it.

    You don't even explain the things you're saying you just say "Lol just another run of the mill OP killer perk, survivors don't have those but all survivors do is get nerfed like balanced landing!" It's almost like BL was the only exhaustion perk that had a secondary benefit, which was abused on far too many maps to "rework". It's almost like you're complaining a busted, OP thing was nerfed. Wow, story of a survivors life.

    What you just said is exactly how killers feel when it comes to being frustration or obnoxious. JC what a god damn crybaby, and worst of all an ignorant one. Like, I don't disagree with NOED, but you're comparing one perk to another being nerfed and saying "Wow, they get to keep x thing I think is OP, but you nerf MY OP thing?"