New legion isnt as bad as you may think
When I first read it I thought it was a heavy nerf. When u saw no cooldown changes I was also livid. Honestly I still legion nenes them but that's besides the point. Legion feels much more enjoyable and controllable to play due to the speed buffs. The old one felt very sluggish and annoyingly slow. This one feel more fresh and fast.
As annoying as getting rid of the basic attack in FF is to sloppy, I suggest you guys try out the pins. They are not half bad at all and with the speed u can actually catch people. My new slowdown with him is with the pin that inflicts broken, followed with thanatophobia and monitor(u also could use dying light or some other perk) but the main one is thanatophobia. The fact that u can get people easily and whoever else you it is a guaranteed stack of thanatophobia for 60 seconds is nice. Though it is always not reliable since you are not guaranteed to get everyone, it can create some slowdown for when it works.
While the DW change is laughable I dont think it really affects legion. To be fair if you hit somebody with deep wound you are either chasing them or they are mending immediately so I think it affects people like freddy and wraith more than anything. Overall I think new legion is a more enjoyable character to play as and while they took some perk synergies, if you find the right build and utilize his addons, he ain't as bad people are saying he is.
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been using duration and legion pin and man are they pretty much injured the whole game
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Thanks for this, I might focus on trying to make Legion work...
Afterall, I mastered hag before she got any buffs at all lol
Imagine taking 5 seconds to set a trap and being hit with a 2 second period before you can move when you teleport... Traps couldn't be crouched over, but that really made up for the stun.
Legion doesn't seem that bad, I just need to figure him out lol
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New speed makes it much easier to catch to other survivors. I also use it to move around map after the hook to the last known location of other survivors (but usually not the whole power). You really have to have a good understanding of where other survivors are located and understand that his power is also great for locating other survivors. I personally love the changes.
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Yeah, he's worse.
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On-hit effect, DW nerf > Speed, vault FF buff.
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Thank you
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Problem is with the new changes, that's all he's effective at. Injuring.
At least before he had perks to benefit off of said injures, but now he doesn't even have that.
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I also want to point out that Deep Wounds isnt just Legion. IT's Septic and Borrowed Time too. So this change effects them too.
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They balance DW around survs, not a killer with specific DW power. it means game is much more "surv sided", this is confirmed. Devs didn't even try balance it for both sides.
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He's really bad now. You have to waste an addon slot for something you got basically for free before.
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he feels refreshing I hate how sluggish I've been moving with pre legion. I used SB to have theophobia as a nearly permeant perk, but this felt great to use. The last real changes I want to see is his cool down and when he swings it removes a percentage like 10 or something.
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You want to tell me it isn't worse that now I can loop the legion the entire game without have to mend?
If 1-2 gens are done I can loop a legion for the rest of the game if he chases me, then my Adrenaline pops and I didn't even had to mend once.
I can easily cleanse a totem while in DW and as long you can manage an m1 killer, the Legion is a killer without a power.
The new Oni should have been the Legion rework.
Getting in a Feral Frenzy after hitting enough survivors, going into a Bloodrage and downing people left and right.
The Oni moves faster then FF, has an Instant Down, breaks pallets without an add-on and can get stunned without losing his power.
What is the selling point of the Legion at this moment?
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literally nothing.
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I like that the new DW actually prevent survivors from just ignoring it as long as they are in the TR and just work on objectives or help their teammates. You can only run or mend. If they run, they leave scratch marks and don't recover exhaustion. If they mend they are not doing anything usefull for 12 seconds and then have to consider healing.
I don't care much about Feral Frenzy no longer being a basic attack. I never understood why so many Legion players tought STBFL was so great. What I do miss however is the Dark Devotion synergy. It was a fun and surprisingly effective build that took advantage off a very under used perk.
Now that the devs have normalized basic attacks on all killer, maybe they'll look at perks that require basic attacks that nobody use and changes some of them to any attack instead.
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You can still interact with things until your timer is low. I've worked on a gen at 85 or 90% in a Legions face who stabs me in Frenzy. I continue working on the gen so he stabs me again and becomes stunned then I finish the gen as he stares at his hands in bewilderment. I'm downed but there was jack all that poor Legion was able to do other than watch me repair that gen.
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How is this any different than before? If you're looping Legion, you're in their terror radius, so you didn't have to mend anyway.
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DW got nerfed in its intended "spread the pain / stall " concept.
But maybe the new version might help with tunneling!!!! Theoretically. When looping a legion, survivors will need to keep dancing around instead of having short pauses at pallets. Unless holding shift counts as running.
Someone should bust this theory soon.
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Pins are great now and speed buffs too. I want the cooldown buffed and my frank mix tape back.
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Now Legion feels fast and smooth BECAUSE they revert there stupid nerfs back to the old Legion. Old Legion was actually fine and not broken besides the moonwalking exploit.
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I feel like they could pretty much revert old legion back while keep the missed attack cooldown , the current DW fixes , his current add-ons and the full gauge to use the power.
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Agree that was my suggestion since now to the devs. Just revert Legion with the missed attack cooldown and maybe nerf franks mixtape with a big downside just like huntress iridiscent head. Then Legion would be in a decent spot. Legion had at the release a bad killrate BECAUSE many ppl still didnt play Legion accurate.
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They won't listen. They never listened to my threads in Feedback or the billion of others saying Legion needed help.
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Now with Adrenaline you don't have to mend at all, maybe even with Second Wind. You just can run around, cleanse totems, do gens or go toward Exit Gates outside of the Legions TR and don't have to care at all. So at some point, when 1-2 gens are left, Legion basically has no power than losing the ability to see scratchmarks and move a bit faster and vault pallets. (BTW, if he don't run Iri Button those pallets can be put up again now with the new perk)
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If you can loop him entire game it's not problem of Legion but player who plays him. You always need to adjust playstyle based on the killer. If you are the last in the game because he had applied enough pressure throughout the game, then it's not a problem he loops you for the remaining time.
The best killers are not the ones that you cannot loop, but the ones that apply most pressure to ALL survivors. Legion does that well as his ability is great for tracking survivors. This game is 1v4 not 1v1.
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I was specifically referring to the part about looping the killer
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At this point the Legion mains are getting the blizzard treatment
*you think you do, but you dont*
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I mean,if you dont know how to play them,I guess...
Yes, OP,they're almost perfect now,they just need to change their purple add-ons
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"Just use new pins!"
Hah, NO. I don't want to make Legion addon depended. He had synergy with perk, I won't exchange it for addon I have limited amounts and have to farm it from BloodWeb...
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Hi, I've played Legion for most of the hours I have on the game which is 400+. This is a horrid nerf and made me stop playing the game.
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I think alot of people are missing the point I was making. I never said use pins to make him good. I suggested if u wanted to go for a new slowdown, you could try the pins.
People who are saying you can loop the legion without needing to mend, you wouldnt have to mend if he was in a chase before the change so that argument is stupid and if you are being chased that long then there is a problem with the player.
All I'm saying is that if you build them right they can apply good pressure. People dont wanna mend? Ez thanatophobia stacks. Bamboozle and fire up are interesting on him due to the huge speed he can get. Although his old slowdown build is gone it's not all that he has. If you can take advantage of the speed buff and vaulting, you will understand how much better you can perform as him
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Or just play Plague...same benefits, without add-on, indefinitely not only 60s and if they cleanse you get a lethal range attack.
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Where is that images from?
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I've been running Thano, Nurses, Ruin and Claurophobia to slow down survivors. If I can't inflict sloppy with Frenzy, then my increase terror radius while in frenzy and Claurophobia will slow them down.
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You are the type of person to play for performance. Which is not bad at all. I do love me some Plauge. But this is for people who want to play and have fun as legion while being effective. There is no doubt that plague can do better than legion but overall, people like playing legion because he is fun to play as. It is fun to run around stabbing people at fast speeds. While you are absolutely right, I'm talking from a fun/effective strat than pure effectiveness. If you're looking for straight up effectiveness and don't really care for the fun then legion isn't for you.
Tbh I think the plague can be boring at times anyway
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Gintama
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Absolutely! I love play for performance and get the best out of myself. That's why I love Hag!
She challenge my planning ahead and outsmarting the survivors. The stats showed, that she is a tad hard to play, but those who know what to do, are pretty deadly =)
I enjoy the strategic killers and control and naturally wish, there would be more of them.
Legion can be fun, but to me he lacks that oomph to seal the deal.
Running around and slowing down the game might be fun for some people, but stacking slowdown perks upon slowdown add-ons just don't do it for me, and when I play as a survivor, it's just annoying.
What if we would give the Legion Oblivious during FF, would this be too strong or in line with Ghostface, Wraith and Pig? I think they could be a cool stealth killer and FF don't down you immediately so it would be not that bad.
What do you think?
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