So since Dev's have decided slowing the game down is bad...

"you will get attacked by the gen rushing clown show so get ready." ?

I wouldn't mind 90 second gens. That's what I thought it already was. 80 seconds is definitely too fast.

Seriously, what the hell is going on here?

Yes this is why they buffed Freddy and introduced Demogorgon. Catering to those survivor mains as always.

Because of NOED and Points? I play Survivor too and always doing dull totems(red ranks btw) Seriously if Survivor are only doing Gen's then they shouldn't cry about NOED.

BtT: I agree. Gen's shouldn't go that fast. It is a joke how fast they are. Should I double myself to hunt AND protecting Gen's?!

It is sad that people try to build a mind about others and doesn't understand what they're meaning.

I mean with "red rank btw" that I am experienced because to counter those who will say "You're green rank obviously" or something like that.

People on the forums always come with this complaint and even say things like "killers quitting playing killer is going to be bad for the game!" Wrong. Four people have to pick survivor for every one person who picks killer in order for matchmaking to go quickly. If anything BHVR should look at removing things that are frustrating for survivors, like being camped or tunneled. The survivors are the life blood of the game, not the killers.

I don't know why people think survivors want to sit and hold m1 for even LONGER in order to finish a game. If anything gens should go faster since they are the most boring objective of all. The survivors should be rewarded more for interacting with the killer, since that's the most interesting part of the game for everyone.

I've never said anybody has to accept anything as it is, I don't know why you're telling me this. Making suggestions and sprouting ideas is growth and improvement. If you have an issue with me giving advice to people that just complain and get upset without giving constructive brainstorming then I don't know what to tell you. My advice is far from toxic and very healthy in all aspects, in or out of the game. Sorry, not sorry.

Because the difference between slowing the game down with say a perk like PGTW and Forever Freddy is massive. While one is annoying PGTW being the legit slow down. Freddy took it to a extreme and made the game boring on both sides to play.

It wasnt fun to sit on a gen to have the killer legit pop it because they run Dying Light, PGTW, Thantophoia, Thrilling Tremors or Surveillance, Swing Chains, and Jump Rope. Half the time I didnt get in a chase the Killer knew he could pop and move on.

Worse part was 90% of the forever Freddy were bad players boosted because of a good build and they made the game toxic and unfun from both sides. If your really upset you lost Forever Freddy you need to realize there are people on both sides. On the other hand if your upset about the slow down effect being nerfed i can understand that.

Before you call me a survivor biast or main ask @GrootDude I've literally almost exclusively been playing killer as of late except dailies and if friends want to play.

This is my experience too, massive survivor wait times and instant killer lobbies, no matter the time of day.

Nearly every game sees a team of red rank survivors against a rank 10 killer, Ive often been in both sides of this and it’s not fun to steamroll or be steamrolled.

PS4 UK region btw.

Forever Freddy was a little overkill. Especially with a killer that has enough weapons to curb stomp survivors with just the pop/ruin combo.

It's not like they buffed gen speeds across the board.

Ruin and pop exist, no?

If you needed forever Freddy to win games, then you have some improvements to work on. He's plenty strong enough with pop/ruin.

If you need pop/ruin to get a win i feel sorry for you maybe you need improvements and not rely on crutch perks!

I am a survivor and killer player so I see things from both sides. I am not the best at either so I do not know it all nor am I perfect. first of all the idea of the "TUNNEL" has been yelled at me many times by many players when I play killer. PLEASE when you are a survivor don't screw up the definitions of what things mean, because I have to believe you are a potato because you survivors can't make up your mind. HONESTLY! if you want to accuse someone of tunneling get the definition right, it is NOT chasing the same person and not successfully hooking them once for most of the match! the idea of tunneling is when someone is brought off a hook, then the killer intentionally (this is the KEY WORD) goes for the one just off the hook while they run away to heal up. NOW if you make it obvious where you are going or if you run into the killer then there is nothing to do but suck it up when you are downed. so if the killer doesn't come right back to the hook and you run and it's a minute or two while you start to heal don't be surprised if the killer happens upon your scratch marks (time frame is not a minute or two that is just a turn of phrase) and follows them, there is NOTHING that says this was whom you last hooked. and finally on the subject of tunneling, if you get unhooked and you start working on a totem right next to the hook, don't whine about being tunneled. you asked for it because you stayed right there. there is NOTHING that the devs can do to discourage this, making it "illegal" by rules will put so many reports on their hands they can't do anything and 90% of those reports would be false. plus again you have to prove the intentional part without them bypassing someone, they can use the defense I was following scratch marks or they ran at me.

Now the subject of camping. generally camping is not a good thing for the killer because gens can be done faster etc. if the suvivors are solo queue's you loose communication which makes it a bit better in general... I think there are a few things that need to be changed, the "proximity to survivor should not be used if they are setting traps, reloading hatchets, bottles, setting a portal. these are all specific actions that are not part of camping but need to be done to be efficient. However they should be docked blood points when standing near the hook, even with insidious as well as emblem progress. again, there is no way to truly make this against the rules as one person's camping is not the same as another. I am pretty sure no one has a timer they start every time you get hooked and when does that timer start? how to know it's right and not started when you were downed etc. again nothing truly can be done in the rules for this.

The whole idea of complaining that 1 second per instance was removed is petty to be honest. 1 second in the whole scheme of things is nothing. if you can't stand that one second less you need to move on to something else that is better suited to your talents. come on people let's be real, you end up complaining that every change made is a nerf but honestly it's all about making the game better and as intended! I see these posts seconds after the patch and blammo you're an expert at this! oh yea!!! you don't even know what the changes are in game just how it reads lol.

Yup. Eastern Canada here and its the exact same.