Forums was a mistake

deadbodyman62 · December 2019

I think that the dead by daylight teams decision to start an official forum was a mistake.

There is so very few positive posts on here and I feel like it will spook the devs into changing the game in a way that only caters to the small % of whiners that post about how the game is "broken"

Dont get me wrong the game is not perfect but you start hearing "this killer is OP" this perk is weak, this feature is broken. Then you start making the game for the worst part of the community.

Look at data, take critique from content creators that use the game as a means of livelihood. And trust your gut devs.

Dont cater to the trolls, The salty babies that want the game easy and toxic. The ones that will never be happy and feel entitled to get there way everytime.

Waffleyumboy · December 2019

I respectfully disagree. Power is best used when given to the people.

KillermainBTWm8 · December 2019

That is every forum in existence though. Players are never satisfied though we make good points sometimes on here as well which is when the devs listen to us.

deadbodyman62 · December 2019

Only If power is given to a accurate fair slice of the community.

Most people that dont want to be trolls and know the game dont really comment on stuff cause they dont want to fight with trolls.

TheRoyalOwl · December 2019

It's not the forum's fault, it's the people who come to the forum just to complain.

MegaWaffle · December 2019

Forums was a mistake

deadbodyman62

Dec 12, 2019

I think that the dead by daylight teams decision to start an official forum was a mistake.
There is so very few positive posts on here and I feel like it will spook the devs into changing the game in a way that only caters to the small % of whiners that post about how the game is "broken"
Dont get me wrong the game is not perfect but you start hearing "this killer is OP" this perk is weak, this feature is broken. Then you start making the game for the worst part of the community.
Look at data, take critique from content creators that use the game as a means of livelihood. And trust your gut devs.
Dont cater to the trolls, The salty babies that want the game easy and toxic. The ones that will never be happy and feel entitled to get there way everytime.

It matters not what form of communication the Devs decided to give us, trolls/toxic people would exist. You cannot silence people with civil behavior and good intent/criticism because you might allow the aforementioned in.

not_Queen · December 2019

@deadbodyman62

I wholeheartedly disagree on this.

Many of our members are very well versed in discussing issues and provide great and constructive feedback. And positive posts aren't the thing we are looking for, even if they are quite nice to see once in a while.

Even if many members use it for that purpose, forums aren't only created for feedback, it is also a place for the Community to get together, exchange ideas, discuss, share cool DBD related stuff. Critiques and expressing frustration is a part of it as well.

Now, we aren't mindlessly reporting ''this is OP'' or ''this sucks'' to the team, we select mainly constructive feedback and ask questions to make the discussions progress (Peanits is our champion for this). Forums are also not the only place we collect feedback from.

Anyways, as long as it is done within the rules, no subject is out of the question and if a member desires to express a frustration towards the game, they are welcome to do so.

Mandy · December 2019

The forums are a place for a lot of different types of discussions, some are rants when things don't go the way people want them to, some are genuine constructive feedback, some are ideas, some are for help on things and some people genuinely want to discuss things.

That's why I think the forums are a great idea.

And for what it's worth, whilst we listen to feedback and ideas etc - we don't automatically jump to nerf or buff things by reading posts that are purely ranting. Please give the developers and ourselves some credit in our ability to see what is genuine feedback and someone just having a bad few games.

not_Queen · December 2019

Oh hi Mandy 😉

AAAAA · December 2019

Just because people are complaining about something doesn't mean devs will change it. They'll probably consider it, but that's a good thing; the community's voice should be heard, even if the community is wrong. I trust the devs to be able to differentiate between poor losers and legitimate criticisms.

Mandy · December 2019

hahahahaha Not_Queen, we posted at the same time as well. :)

Raccoon · December 2019

If only there was some public place for discussion, a forum if you will, that you could Express your thoughts.

not_Queen · December 2019

@ImmersedNurse Better answer than mine. Good job 🙃

DepressedClownMain · December 2019

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/112449/forums-was-a-mistake

This is quite a paradox. You use the forums to say the forums provide bad info on what should be changed but then that makes your opinion bad what makes you right at the same time

thrawn3054 · December 2019

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/914885#Comment_914885

Lol. I didn't look at the name. I just assumed it was Peanits responding at first.

Heartbound · December 2019

I just used the steam forums until recently.

It's alright.

deadbodyman62 · December 2019

I'm not stupid I understand the point of forums and get that there are many layers to this onion and that not everyone on the forums are trolls.

My point I was trying to make is alot, A LOT of the posts I see are uneducated and just not true nor realistic to the games current state or the feelings of the community at large.

I know the game has a global player base quite large and my hope is that a small portion of those people doesnt end up with the "voice" for us all.

Almo · December 2019

I've had a lot of good experiences talking to the players here. I like the forums. I just tune out the excessively negative stuff; it's not hard to spot. :)

Carpemortum · December 2019

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/914866#Comment_914866

Except the people speak and the leaders ignore them.

So it turns into a cesspool of slander and side bias with no real difference made.

Hoodied · December 2019

You just described what forums are supposed to do whilst insulting the people who do post positive comments

Usui · December 2019

So many bait threads recently. Yeah before the forums i'm sure their balancing was going alright.. or were you not around for that?

tortrader · December 2019

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/914866#Comment_914866

Then create your own game.

ZtarShot · December 2019

*is on the forum, writing about the forum as a mistake*

lasombra1979 · December 2019

Ummm, well, ummm, you realize you did kinda well insult yourself right?

Considering the fact there is plenty of opposing views posted in here, not really sure how this is an echo chamber.

xBEATDOWNSx · December 2019

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/915340#Comment_915340

"Survivors OP"

"Killers OP"

"*Place perk here* is trash"

"Fix your game"

"*Killer buff/ nerf* is ruining the game"

"Behavior doesnt care about the game and it's community"

Can't go more than 2 hours without posts like these popping up and the echo chamber going in.

lasombra1979 · December 2019

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/915577#Comment_915577

You keep saying echo chamber but I dont think it means what you think it means.

NoShinyPony · December 2019

It's only natural that people on the forums talk about what needs to get changed about the game (in their opinion), not about what can stay as it is.

And depending on which roles they play, how experienced they are and how much they know about the game, some users will make suggestions that are reasonable and others will make unreasonable ones.

If the official forum wouldn't exist, these discussions would take place elsewhere.

Thatoneguy46 · December 2019

That's true

Angelicus23 · December 2019

No

Blindninja · December 2019

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/112449/forums-was-a-mistake

Go ahead and name a game that doesn't have an official forum

Deathperil · December 2019

I don't think forums were a mistake but they can be very dangerous in unexpected ways. One of which is new players having toxic first impressions. I have seen many links for various forum posts in my news feed and I would say almost all of the forums threads I have seen are negative or completely toxic. Now I know that the forum isn't just toxic try hards wanting to nerf everyone else so they can feel powerful but sadly that's whats on public display because "Thanks Devs" or "Good Job on the new Killer" posts don't get clicks.

BushetteLyfe · December 2019

Welcome to dead by daylight where everyone is salty.

LetsBeFriendly · December 2019

I believe if their was a way to keep out the toxicity and trolls then they would have used it. There is no true way to do it and it is the sad reality of the socialite that comes with the internet. I wish there was a way to keep it civil and the outright "entitlement" that came from it away from us with civil and respectful criticism but there isnt. Not as a survivor main or killer main, but as a player with almost 3000 hours and having had the game since beta, I wish there was a way I could speak with the more civil side of players but there isnt. I knew that coming into this community and I've grown to accept it because no matter what multiplayer game I play, it will always be there.

Elegant · December 2019

It definitely is. I've encountered some of the dumbest and most idiotic opinions that I've ever heard from any game on the forums. This isn't coming from a minority of the people either. It's a massive majority of the people commenting on the forums. They have outlandishly stupid opinions like the they shouldn't have nerfed Freddy or base nurse was fine or spirit didn't need nerfs. I would absolutely be fine with toxicity and the other similar things if the opinions and ideas that were being presented with them were credible or defensible in any way. Instead, we have a collective of the dumbest gaming opinions I've ever heard coupled with the toxicity and negativity. They would honestly just be better off never reading a single comment from here and just relying on the fog whisperers for feedback on the game.