Whats worse, 4 flashlights or 4 toolboxes?
Personally id rather see a 4 man with flashlights over a 4 man with toolboxes. Flashlights are an easy counter if youre aware of their existence. Walls or baiting them out. Toolboxes only counter is pretty much slugging. Just my opinion.
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Toolboxes are way worse.
4 man Commodious is something that really tempts me to dodge
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4 toolboxes are much, much worse
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3 socket swivel commodious toolboxes and a key.
Most people who use flashlights are just blinding me at pallets with them which basically does nothing because I am in the pallet kicking animation for 80% of it anyways. And half the people don't even use it with iron will, making it completely useless when injured.
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Toolboxes, easily. You can completely avoid flashlights if you play well or by using just one perk. There's not really a good way to stop four toolboxes.
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Relay the fact that it has no real counter to the dev team then.
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Toolboxes 100%. 4 Commodious Toolboxes with Socket Swivel and Instructions will get the gens done before you can say "Man, I really should of brought Franklin's Demise."
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Toolboxes for sure. Flashlights are fun to mindgame actually. If you down someone and you know there's a flashlight save person, just look down at the survivor for a second. 9/10 times they come RUNNING to let you smack them like obedient lemmings. Works multiple times a game too if you're careful.
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Toolboxes. Hands down because your game gets cut near in half.
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It's more of the opportunity cost of using a toolbox over another item. I always viewed the toolbox as a very altruistic item because it helps the team much more than yourself.
Instead of a toolbox you could have a near guaranteed free escape with a key, a medkit for multiple selfcares and potentially a syringe, or the flashlight which can be used to save teammates or juke the killer during chase.
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It's a blessing when multiple survivors bring flashlights because usually they're wasting so much time trying to blind you or make saves.
Toolboxes are a nightmare because the game isn't balanced around the extra repair speed survivors get from toolboxes. Really wish BHVR would remove the bonus repair speed on toolboxes and give each one a unique stat instead.
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Toolboxes ofc, are you kidding me? 4 flashlights HELP you, you know a bunch of survivors will be following your every move around the map being greedy for FL saves, and most importantly not doing gens.
4 toolboxes will ######### you up and you won't even know what hit you.
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Flashlights are bad and not really worth using and I think everyone agrees. There's no reason to leave your gen.
Toolbox is friend. It sees you through the hard times.
As killer toolbox is your enemy and even if you're killer golden toolboxes hide in the shadows ready to jumpscare you and remind you who the boss is.
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Flashlights have easy counters going against. Toolboxes don’t really have any, and they make repair speed much more faster than it already is.
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Allow 4 toolboxes and see for yourself. Also, dont take ruin. :D
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4 toolboxes for sure. You can dodge flashlights but toolboxes help complete gens faster.
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Toolboxes, flashlights are far less painful to play against.
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4 toolboxes is just asking for a mori.
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Toolboxes, it's not even a debate or a question really lol.
4 Flashlights not only can be countered with just a perk if you wanted, but if everyone is swarming you going "Click click click" then they are not doing gens.
There is no counter to genrush.
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Toolboxes by far
Flashlights are just annoying
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Toolboxes are far worse.
If people join my lobby with toolboxes it's usually purple engineer's toolboxes with addons and/or commodious toolboxes (often with brand new part).
A purple engineer's toolbox WITHOUT addons repairs a generator in just 64 seconds if I remember correctly.
These guys probably wanted a 3-4 minute game:
- prove thyself + bond
- 1 purple engineer's toolbox with scraps (+15 charges) and clean rag (+10% speed)
- 1 purple engineer's toolbox with spring clamp
- 1 commodious toolbox with clean rag (+10% speed) and socket swivels (+15% speed)
Matches like these make me wonder why many killer seem to bring moris against solo players with no items (about every 3rd-5th game for me). Clearly it's possible to win even against (possible) SWF with strong toolboxes at 5 gens. Not 100% sure if they were SWF but I just assume they were because I never see toolboxes when I play solo survivor let alone 3 "strong" toolboxes + prove thyself and bond.
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Easily toolboxes. You can counter four flashlights, but not four toolboxes.
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Definitely toolboxes are worse. Flashlights have many forms of counterplay (Looking at walls, baiting out saviors) Technically a built in slowdown perk if they're constantly waiting around chased survivors and not doing gens.
There's not much you can do about toolboxes. Gens will get cracked down and will most likely force you to play a lot more sweaty due to the time crunch before gates get powered. .
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4 toolboxes easily. I see 4 toolboxes, I know its going to be a very quick game so I pop to a high mobility killer or just modify for a 3 gen strat. I see 4 flashlights, I get almost giddy. Its like they are telling me they want me to hit them over and over again while they play stupid trying to blind me.
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4 toolboxes is easily the most overpowered thing in this entire video game.
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IMO even one toolbox is worse than 4 flashlights... I really hope toolboxes are getting nerfed soon
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Four commodious toolboxes is the worst thing a killer can face. Anyone can hold down M1 and fix a generator extremely fast with their toolbox, Ruin or not.
Flashlights have counters. Run Lightborn. Look into a wall. Be aware of if a survivor is around you. Plus a lot of four man flashlight squads are following you around to get their cheeky saves. Which means they aren’t doing generators.
If I were to dodge a group it would be a 4 man toolbox group. Only time I’d dodge flashlights is if I was playing Hag, but I would just switch to another killer instead of dodging anyways.
Many groups that run four toolboxes play super boring and rush the hell out of generators. There is no fun in those groups.
Toolboxes means they are cutting the game in half. Flashlights means they aren’t doing objectives.
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Toolboxes are evil...
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I've had games where they come in with 4 tool boxes, don't give a ######### about ruin, and speed through the gens like they are on meth...
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