The road to starting the match with the gates open

@Raccoon said:

@thesuicidefox said:

@Raccoon said:
No one said they did it to every survivor.
I certainly did not say that.

"@Raccoon said:
All those bad players like Marth, Panda, Tyde, and Tru that also rely on it in certain scenarios/ 'bad' loops really do need to "git gud."

No but you said they RELY on it, which means they need it to catch survivors. They don't.

Go on, finish the rest of the sentence beyond the bolded section.

You can do it.

I believe in you.

And you are still wrong. Tru will even say "I'm not chasing people by this loop". He doesn't go to the loop and get bloodlust 3. That's why he uses Bambo to break certain loops. He doesn't bloodlust, and when he gets it it's not from following a loop but instead because he over commits to a chase he keeps making mistakes on (and the survivor keeps running so the chase continues).

Panda doesn't ignore those loops as much as Tru, but again he doesn't blindly run around them. He will give up on people usually, and just like Tru he gets bloodlust in chases he over commits to and the survivor keeps getting away. NOT at loops.

Marth does, but again he does it to troll so it's moot. Just like the other 2 he doesn't rely on it as much as he just likes to do it for LOLz.

Tyde is the only one you could say relies on it, but again Tyde isn't as good of a killer as the other 3.

Lowbei said:

Vietfox said:

Lowbei said:

Vietfox said:

Lowbei said:

Vietfox said:

Lowbei said:

Vietfox said:

Lowbei said:

thesuicidefox said:

Wait I almost forgot;

You need bloodlust to catch survivors?

im a survivor main lol, and i often bring a flashlight and chase the killer around harrassing them until they get looped or rage

Then u are trash.
I'm a survivor main and i never chase the killer, thats simply unnecessary.
Gen rush, save other survivors and escape. Dont be an ochido-wannabe
PS: you are not a survivor main anyway, dont try to fool us xD

i will continue to chase and loop and abuse the killer until the devs fix the problem, and i dont care if you dislike it.

What problem? Your lack of skills as a killer?

i play at rank1 and think its hilarious how butthurt you are at me for pointing out that players shouldnt feel safe in front of the killer.

Not butthurt, just making fun of u xD

lol what part of survivor main dont you get? i literally make 40-50k per game trolling the killer with a flashlight. you are just a butthurt survivor main who is lashing out because you are probably one of the review bombing crybabies.

I encourage u to find one of those reviews, my steam username is the same one.
PS: u are not a survivor main
PS2: "i literally make 40-50k per game trolling the killer with a flashlight." video proof or never happened. Even if u did that, i already said that it's a trash gameplay

i dont care if you did or not, and your butthurt is hilarious little dude.

also yeah, survivor main, hate to rock your boat lol

40-50k is easy with wglf and a flashlight, theres plenty of videos on my twitch, and i could care less if some butthurt rando thinks its trash gameplay.

it will continue until the devs fix their game. get over it

Lowbei said:

Vietfox said:

Lowbei said:

Vietfox said:

Lowbei said:

Vietfox said:

Lowbei said:

Vietfox said:

Lowbei said:

Vietfox said:

Lowbei said:

thesuicidefox said:

Wait I almost forgot;

You need bloodlust to catch survivors?

im a survivor main lol, and i often bring a flashlight and chase the killer around harrassing them until they get looped or rage

Then u are trash.
I'm a survivor main and i never chase the killer, thats simply unnecessary.
Gen rush, save other survivors and escape. Dont be an ochido-wannabe
PS: you are not a survivor main anyway, dont try to fool us xD

i will continue to chase and loop and abuse the killer until the devs fix the problem, and i dont care if you dislike it.

What problem? Your lack of skills as a killer?

i play at rank1 and think its hilarious how butthurt you are at me for pointing out that players shouldnt feel safe in front of the killer.

Not butthurt, just making fun of u xD

lol what part of survivor main dont you get? i literally make 40-50k per game trolling the killer with a flashlight. you are just a butthurt survivor main who is lashing out because you are probably one of the review bombing crybabies.

I encourage u to find one of those reviews, my steam username is the same one.
PS: u are not a survivor main
PS2: "i literally make 40-50k per game trolling the killer with a flashlight." video proof or never happened. Even if u did that, i already said that it's a trash gameplay

i dont care if you did or not, and your butthurt is hilarious little dude.

also yeah, survivor main, hate to rock your boat lol

40-50k is easy with wglf and a flashlight, theres plenty of videos on my twitch, and i could care less if some butthurt rando thinks its trash gameplay.

it will continue until the devs fix their game. get over it

U dont care but yet u keep replying

lol you are bumping my thread kiddo, and i could care less what you do at rank20

Usui said:

@Lowbei said:
Usui said:

It's almost like he brags about how many hours he has played yet doesn't mention the games where you get in and have literally giant open spaces with 0 pallets.. Huh go figure..

idk what game you are playing, but theres pallets everywhere, even on shelter woods now. did you accidentally click this forum while looking for something else?

Tells me you don't play much, ever since the pallet changes this happens frequently. Oh and on a side note I think it's cute how you claim you're a survivor main yet you're consistently on these forums pleading for killer buffs and general killer white-knighting.

AmorePrincess said:

*Have no idea why I kept reading the whole thread*

Just popped in to say I think the BL changes are stupid. Then I got offended when I read someone say that you cant be a real survivor main if you promote buffs for killers. I am survivor main, and even I see that some things needs to change. I am rank 1, and sometimes I do meet a billy that completely trash me, but most times I survive, or atleast for long enough to get enough points to not really care. I want spookier matches, harder skill checks, longer gen times, more objectives, more fear, and that does not mean I dont main survivor. That means I dont want to play a game where there are little to no challenge. Weird....

Anyways, I do think changes came because of the review bomb, (ashamed to be a survivor, its not like they took away the ability to run period). And even if I think most changes are good, mainly because it spices up a game that I spend way too much time on, some things should be left alone. 

SovererignKing said:

Usui said:

@Lowbei said:
Usui said:

It's almost like he brags about how many hours he has played yet doesn't mention the games where you get in and have literally giant open spaces with 0 pallets.. Huh go figure..

idk what game you are playing, but theres pallets everywhere, even on shelter woods now. did you accidentally click this forum while looking for something else?

Tells me you don't play much, ever since the pallet changes this happens frequently. Oh and on a side note I think it's cute how you claim you're a survivor main yet you're consistently on these forums pleading for killer buffs and general killer white-knighting.

If you’re the same Usui from the Steam Forums, then your post doesn’t suprise me. 

Tsulan said:

Nickenzie said:

A single survivor which is 25% of the killer's objective shouldn't be able to loop a killer for 3 generators which is 60% of a survivors objective. Additionally the survivor still needs to be hooked 2 more times before you actually do complete 25% of your killer objective. See the problem? A survivor can complete their objective WAY too fast than a killer can complete theirs.

Your calculation is wrong.
It's not 25% of the killers objective but 8,33% since every survivor has 3 lives. Killer has to get 12 hooks in the same time as survivors have to do 5 gens. That's 1,25 gen per survivor or 100 seconds to complete 1 and 1/4 gens as a single survivor. Even less if survivors use toolboxes. 

@Lowbei said:
“Survivors shouldnt feel safe in front of the killer” - devs

(the required disclaimer: ive got 1800hrs and been rank1 on both sides at the end of the season dozens of times)

knowing that looping is a problem, why are we nerfing bloodlust?

Bloodlust vs a skilled survivor is already nearly useless, since after looping him for long enough to get enough bloodlust to catch me, i can just drop the pallet and force em to lose bloodlust when he breaks it, then its off to the next pallet.

what seems extremely obvious to me, a survivor main, is that survivors raged and review bombed after the last patch, and the devs solution was to cave to one of the items on the survivor main checklist on the road to starting the match with the gates open. press 3 to twerk at the exit gate.

the point of bloodlust, was that the devs say the map assets need to be fixed to prevent looping, yet i see no map fixes in the notes, just a nerf that will cause even more “being safe in front of the killer.”

This is what happens when devs arrogantly assume that they know the gameplay better than the players, and make decisions based on their own rank 15ish experience. The obvious solution is to have a small group of the most experienced players (not streamers), on both sides, review your potential decisions. The near universal opinion of your veteran players, was that the last patch was the first step in the right direction in a long time... only for you to then immediately sabotage yourselves by caving to a tiny 500ish player review bomb. Well, since it worked, next time they will bomb you much harder.

Just let the devs hand out the free win to survivors and watch from the backseat how they panic once queue time rises because killers abandon the game.

@thesuicidefox said:

@Lowbei said:
what seems extremely obvious to me, a survivor main, is that survivors raged and review bombed after the last patch, and the devs solution was to cave to one of the items on the survivor main checklist on the road to starting the match with the gates open. press 3 to twerk at the exit gate.

Except they had talked about nerfing bloodlust several times before. This was just the first time they actually showed us what they plan to do. Before it was just "we are looking into ways to change bloodlust".

If you people really think review bombs did anything in just FEW WEEKS you have no clue how game dev works.

Its really not hard to change a few numbers, even an intern can do that if you explain him where he finds those numbers.
They talked about changing bloodlust AFTER the maps have been reworked and at the same time killers were supposed to get bloodlust FASTER than now.

@AmorePrincess said:
Have no idea why I kept reading the whole thread

Just popped in to say I think the BL changes are stupid. Then I got offended when I read someone say that you cant be a real survivor main if you promote buffs for killers. I am survivor main, and even I see that some things needs to change. I am rank 1, and sometimes I do meet a billy that completely trash me, but most times I survive, or atleast for long enough to get enough points to not really care. I want spookier matches, harder skill checks, longer gen times, more objectives, more fear, and that does not mean I dont main survivor. That means I dont want to play a game where there are little to no challenge. Weird....

Anyways, I do think changes came because of the review bomb, (ashamed to be a survivor, its not like they took away the ability to run period). And even if I think most changes are good, mainly because it spices up a game that I spend way too much time on, some things should be left alone. 

First decent and senseful post I've read in this yet-another-mains-thread so far.