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I hope the next Killer will be unique and will not be a hybrid of already existing Killers.

Aztreonam78
Aztreonam78 Member Posts: 1,131
edited December 2019 in General Discussions

The last really special Killer is Legion.

Plague - pretty much Huntress and (or) infinite tier III Myers.

Ghost Face - no words needed.

Demo - son of Huntress and Freddy/Hag.

Oni - hybrid of Hillbilly and Myers.

Its hard to call them weak or unfipun, but no originality... meeh.

Comments

  • Hoodied
    Hoodied Member Posts: 13,020

    Its pretty hard to make a completely original killer

    We have such a big roster for the killers that making an original killer would be pretty hard, and then again balancing one that isn't original would be harder

  • Drazen
    Drazen Member Posts: 400

    imo plague and demo both were unique, oni and gf are just hybrids of already existing killers

  • Aztreonam78
    Aztreonam78 Member Posts: 1,131

    Maybe then it’s time to stop making killers with no originality?

  • Aztreonam78
    Aztreonam78 Member Posts: 1,131
    edited December 2019

    There are still at least five Killers needing buffs or even reworks.

    Clown, Doctor, Pig, Myers, Bubba.

    Are devs gonna spend the whole 2020 to buff these Killers? Devs can buff them quickly, but they just don’t wanna do this.

  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616

    I'd like to see one who can fast-travel using Lockers or set traps in them.

    Not just that of course, that'd be a bit weak.

  • Kebek
    Kebek Member Posts: 3,676

    Give me the flying killer or one that can crawl over walls and leap from the ceiling. That would be so awesome, ahh the dreams that will never come true.

  • Waffleyumboy
    Waffleyumboy Member Posts: 7,318

    OP makes no sense. How about you come up with something "completely new" mate. My point is that people will always find similarities in such a simple game, even going so far as to say Demo and Plague aren't unique.

  • Talmeer
    Talmeer Member Posts: 1,520
    edited December 2019

    I would have a ton of ideas for killers with completley new abilities, but well after the first Legion patch my trust in bhvr has gone away that they would be strong enough to go new ways.

    And that means I had never write my ideas down here (and no, they wouldn't feel as a Legion 2.0 - far away from it honestly).

  • Thatbrownmonster
    Thatbrownmonster Member Posts: 1,640

    Pretty sure plague is a mix of huntress and the pig

    just saying


    Also there are plenty of suggestions for new original powers but they must be hard to implement

  • tetsuo
    tetsuo Member Posts: 151

    What would be original then ?

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  • MegMain98
    MegMain98 Member Posts: 2,919

    Why Pig? I think of Plague as a Huntress/Leatherface/Myers hybrid.

  • concious_consumer
    concious_consumer Member Posts: 282

    I hope that next killer will be called Bug Fixes

  • Thatbrownmonster
    Thatbrownmonster Member Posts: 1,640

    More to do with the fountains, but now that I think of, if you don't cleanse you can just keep with what you are doing but cannot be healed, while with pig you can actually die

  • xChrisx
    xChrisx Member Posts: 917

    The next killer will be able to fly, dont worry

  • MegaWaffle
    MegaWaffle Member Posts: 4,172

    I have to disagree with Plague being like Huntress and Demo-goodboy being like Hag/Freddy on the basis that they bring more to the table that give them a unique identity.

    If you are to compare Plague and Huntress as the same simply because each have a projectile then no other ranged killer can ever be added without getting grouped up.

    -Huntress hatchets are a ranged attack that deals damage with near-unlimited range (provided no obstacle) , simple and straight to the point.

    -Plagues vomit is limited in range, causes broken status (doesn't actually deal damage) and spreads a new mechanics with sickness that lingers on objects infecting others. She also bring in a new mechanic with the fountains/cleansing. There are no similarities aside from both having a ranged attack.

    As for Plague being like tier 3 Myers that too is also not true. Plague does not posses an insta down ability like Myers and anyone affected by sickness can cleanse to full health state and instantly return to a 2 hit down.This is something you cannot do vs tier 3 Myers. By the logic that someone not cleansing vs Plague makes her similar to Myers one could argue deciding not to heal in general makes any killer comparable.

    As for Demo-goodboy being like Hag/Freddy I must also disagree. While these three killers all have the ability to teleport each comes with a unique stipulation and alternate powers.

    -Hag relies heavily on her traps for teleportation and pressure and thus can place them anywhere at anytime and teleport to any that get trigger at her will.

    -Freddy can only teleport to generators that have not yet been completed and has a cooldown. His teleport allows for some map pressure but is often use to misdirect or "fake" movement unlike Hags much less restricted map pressure. Freddy also comes with abilities Hag and Demo-goodboy do not posses.

    While Demo-goodboy can teleport using his portals he is limited to 6 (unless destroyed) and gains bonuses the others do not such as TR/stain suppression. Demo-goodboy cannot traverse the map with the same pressure Hag puts out and he does not have the ability to fake/misdirect like Freddy. While I agree this teleportation is a hybrid of the two to an extent (much like you say in the title in your thread) he brings to the table more than just his teleport. His shred ability grants him an extra tool for cutting loops short and adding danger to narrow spots.

    I agree with Ghost Face being similar to Myers since there is no real difference in how his stalk works vs Myers. Myers tier 3 last 60 seconds and by default so does Ghost Face. Both are gathered by stalking survivors and much like Myers tire 3 causes everyone to become "exposed" so to does Ghost Faces stalk. He can even stalk everyone at once causing team wide exposed just like Myers.

    Assuming Pig is the other comparison you may have made to Ghost Face (I assume as you did not list anyone) I wold argue that Pig is not defined by her ability to crouch but rather her traps. True both function the same with hiding your TR/Stain and I won't argue these are near identical but I don't see "crouching" as the mechanic that makes either of these killers who they are. So while I agree Ghost Face is a hybrid of Myers I would say the connection to Pig is slight.

    Oni being compared to Hillbilly is indeed accurate (in my opinion as well). While Oni has the stipulation of first having to gather his power he brings little else to the table to separate his charge/insta vs Billy. Both function the same with Billy simply having the better of it with the freedom to use his inta down whenever he chooses. I have heard people say Oni has better movement than Billy but "drift king Billy" puts him almost perfectly on par with Oni. While aesthetically pleasing Oni lacks for creativity with his ability and has nothing else that defines him.

    TLDR: I disagreed and agreed and gave reasons as to why, accept or don't "to each their own". (^.^)

  • Liruliniel
    Liruliniel Member Posts: 3,047

    Honestly one free DlC could be used to remake these killers and fix bugs, but they prefer profit over balance.

  • Drazen
    Drazen Member Posts: 400

    he just needs multiple stalks back and stalk shouldnt be limited from a survivor thats all

  • ProfessorDunwich
    ProfessorDunwich Member Posts: 1,514

    Disagree on Demo. He felt unique. Agree on Plague to some extent, though she has enough unique mechanics. You are completely right with Oni and Ghostface, they are clearly mash-ups of 2 killers, Billy/Myers and Pig/Myers respectively.

    They are charging a premium for new chapters. We need some original ideas.

  • Accullla
    Accullla Member Posts: 984

    The community has come up with some brilliant original ideas. Similarly to the community cosmetics, I would be really excited if BHVR put some of the best ideas (obviously bar the ones that are not technically implementable) to a vote and let the community decide what they want to see in a future chapter.