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how to behave if you play against toxic survivors?
as killer the game is very frustrating sometimes. some players play very well and use their playstyle for toxic behaviour flashlight, teabagging etc.... what can we do to stop this?
for me it´s very hard to stay cool. because most of the time i try to snipe the toxic survivor out but the 2 hooks aver very safe most of the time and the rest of the team bodyblocks me and safte the toxic one.
what can we do to stop this exept playing one-shot killers?
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if I'm absolutely honest I find the tbagging and clicking hilarious
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Sometimes they are not even toxic in postgame they are really nice, you can't really tell.
Keep that in mind and just like, play normal tbh. If they are salty in post game lobby chat just report them, they won't get banned unless they do it over and over and over though because BHVR doesn't punish unless it's really bad; since there are not many players as is.
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You probably can only dodge the lobby. Only thing you can do is play extremely sweaty with the best killers perks, mori and everything but it won't stop survivors from rushing gens.
Most of the time survivors that play like that aren't that good at the game so you can outplay them rarely. Sadly most good survivors just can loop and are able to hold m1 by the gen and that isn't counterable.
Around 25 games in a row today and I had 2 in which survivors didn't push gens as fast as possible, used keys or just straight up groups of random 4 survivors that always send a single person to hook save, perfectly split to work solo on different generators and telepathically tell each other location of the hatch to escape all together.
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Honestly, if you alter your play, they will enjoy it. If you face camp after downing a toxic survivor, they will laugh it off. I've found it best to act like nothing happened and ignore the bs.
Had a SWF with the two chasers with flashlights and 2 gen jockies. I ignore the chasers and pressured the gen jockies. No Franklin's, just ruin, dying light, thana, and stbfl. No matter what they did, I kept focus on the gen jockies and keeping the chasers wounded. 2 dead, 2 escape, they throw up the "ggez" in chat, I throw the basic ggwp. They then start going off the rails with insults. I merely say GL out there. Then leave. I get a friend invite from each shortly after, but ignore it too.
Never let the alter your game.
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I honestly just play like I normally do, not much changes. One of the extremely few times I'll change up my strategy is if someone is trying to sandbag their own teammates constantly, that ######### don't fly with me.
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If you find someone toxic, it would clever to ignore him, because after my experience those guys are very often the same that are also very good in wasting your time.
Of course, sometimes everybody snaps and then that particular one has to die. No matter what it takes.
I can't give you many tips besides, getting better in mind games for that, but also flashlights are very easy to counter, if you are not stuck in a animation, like by destroying a pallet.
For this look to your left or right, so that the survivor that stays with his flashlight for you wanders on your screen to the right or left side of your screen (depending on which side you are looking). That helps most times to come still to them and hit them with a m1, or what ever.*
If you encounter bodyblocks, take madgrit. A Legion perk. For me are bodyblocking survivors the most annoying type of survivor, but man I love the moment when the penny drops in their head, that I am running madgrit and they going usually then in panik mode :D .
I main the Legion, but I also play a handful of other killers.
Unlike survivors that like to run around always with the same perks - I have on every killer different perks. Besides madgrit, because I really hate body blockers^^.
Edit: You have already to do this, when you see how he turns with his flashlights towards you. If a survivor with a flashlights turns towards you, it is in the most cases because he want to use his flashlight. So prepear yourself before he uses his flashlight.
You will still see the flashlight, but not in the same strength as he would direct aim at your face.
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The way to deal with it is counterintuitive. They want your attention, so you don't give it to them, with exceptions.
Generally, they're trying to lure you in a chase. If they're heading toward a series of strong tiles and you're using a loopable killer, then you ignore them, just like you should. Chances are they're going to follow you around to get you on them. Congratulations, you have one fewer survivor on generators. If they get too cocky and expose themselves on weak tiles or get too close, that's when you chase them. It's not unusual to see an instant DC when you down them like that.
Some killers may facecamp survivors who behave like this. It's legal and you get no argument from me for or against. If the survivor wants the attention, then they just got it. Remember though, that unless you're playing Bubba, you can't really snipe down a specific survivor out of the game with certainty. If they're a coordinated team with anti-tunneling perks, the best you can do is to force hook trades. So, in general it's a better deal to just play normally. Once you've nullified they're offensive by ignoring their taunts, you've already half defeated them.
Also, if tbagging gets you, then stay away from the exit gates when they're open.
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My solution if I can't find a single team member who isn't being toxic, I just go to the basement, stare at the wall, and alt tab out. If you take all of their enjoyment away, there's no reward for their behavior. If I'm not going to have fun in the game anyway, I may as well not reward their behavior either.
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Sometimes there isn't anything you can do about it, but if you manage to outplay the little turds, nod like an idiot the whole way to the hook and smack em' once on hook to show em' who's boss. Killers don't have as many ways to BM survivors, but we have a few ways. You can also play Ghostface or Pig and teabag them when you down/hook them.
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I couldn’t agree more. I never teabag and until recently I never use flashlights which is why I have a zillion of them! But with the rift challenges I’ve had to use them on killers lately and I’ve been called toxic for that.
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Slug them and nod head back n forth.
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DC, report and open a thread on the forums.
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Its usually end game chat that riles me up.
I usually take a few days off after that. I'm too soft.
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I usually ignore them. And i write "gg wp" at the end as usual. They get triggered by friendly behaviour.
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How to behave; just play the game and in case you get sacrifices; you can hit the toxic survivors who die on hook right after you hook them to return the favor, they would probably not like that.
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I came in here to say what you said, but you wrote it better than I could have.
As for the tbagging exit gates, I always go. There’s a small chance I could get them off guard.
One time, the last survivor was tbagging and running around thinking they were safe since I was playing Wraith who has nothing he could really do against a survivor at full health at the gate. So I humored her and started to jerk my body around by repeatedly pushing a direction a few times and then switching to a different direction and kept doing it to make it look like a stupid dance. Anyways, it lured them in and WHACK! Instant down because of NOED. It was so hilarious to hook them. It made my night.
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In general, I try to play normal. I avoid giving most survivors "extra" attention.
If someone's begging for me to chase them, flashlight clicking and teabagging at pallets, I do a 180 and go in the opposite direction, completely ignoring them. They're the distraction, so I need to go patrol gens.
If I'm having a miserable game for whatever reason, rather than punish myself by continuing to play when I'm not having fun, I just find a corner to go AFK in. They hate killers so much, they can play a gen repair sim and leave, I won't get in their way.
The only time I really target a survivor is if they break a hook in my face for no reason. I've had survivors spam noise notifications, then break the hook the moment I'm in LoS. They don't want to be hooked? That's cool with me. I will absolutely slug those survivors and watch them bleed out for four minutes. (Or I may get bored and hook them when the hook they broke returns.) I remember one survivor who shook a teammate off when she tried to heal him, just wanting to finish bleeding out and move on. Ah, good times.
If you want to play the match but don't want to deal with flashlight saves and body blocking, just slug. They can't do flashlight saves, they don't get hook rescue points, they get bored crawling around on the ground. Even if you don't manage to slug all four at once and they escape, you've probably ruined some of their fun. I've gotten nasty messages from survivors for slugging instead of hooking.
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I wouldn't listen to what other people are saying in this thread about about nodding your head or hitting them on the hook, playing a "one-upmanship" style game and feeding into your anger is exactly what they want you to do.
I just want to clarify what is "toxic behaviour" before I go on, because as I see it, it falls into two distinct categories:
The first is in-trial things such as teabagging, flashlight clicking etc. The second is abusive post-game chat. These are both distinctly different behaviours and should be addressed differently.
For in trial "Toxicity", you have to bare in mind that whilst it may feel condescending to have your opponent teabagging you etc, this attention-seeking behaviour is a valid tactic which can win games by frustrating you and making you focus on just that survivor, buying the rest of the team valuable time to fix gens, especially if that player is good at looping. Your only real option is to outplay not that particular player, but the entire team. Often you can use the "toxic" player to your advantage by pretending to chase/pretend to ignore them in order to catch other players off-guard. I say "toxic" with inverted commas in this instance because it is sometimes the case that these in-trial behaviours are devoid of malicious intent, and are purely the preferred playstyle of the individual.
For post-game chat toxicity, which is worse by the fact that it is simply pure harassment without any tactical merit, I would advise against getting involved in the conversation at all - toxic people are not there to listen to your defense or engage with you in any meaningful way unless to aggravate you and do you harm. It is best to simply leave the post-game and move on.
If it helps any, I find it is important to remember what kind of lives toxic individuals usually have which causes them to act this way, they are most often not very happy people. When considering this, denying them of any post-game interaction is more than enough revenge.
To tie it all up, the best advice I can give you is to widen your perspective and learn to stay calm throughout matches and the ensuing post-game. It isn't easy, and requires a great deal of patience and experience, but the bottom line is that the only way to win against these kinds of people is to have the resilience to not let them affect you.
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Usually these kind of people im able to get back at in the end. I've had a few games where I was able to kill toxic survivors, most of the time without camping or tunneling.
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I take everything I said back, after the group I encountered earlier?
Tunnel, camp, play bubba and just sit on survivors on hook.
They all deserve it, at least the SWF ones the way they all seem to act.
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If survivors do that they can't complain if they get tunneled.
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I play normally, because unless it's something that breaks the rules like exploit spots I can't hit them it doesn't actually change anything. I mean if they want to tbag or whatever so much that they actually make less distance with pallets and vaults I'll appreciate the assistance I guess 😄
But then again I can't think of anything people can do in a match that I'd consider "toxic" in the first place. To me that's more or less exclusively reserved for people that can't just move on and feel the need to act like cringelords in postgame chat.
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Camp them to death, and spam M1 at the hook. If someone teabags me at 5 gens I laugh because they are getting facecamped and I know I can afford to do it.
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Staying cool, is really the best option. Survivors following, clicking, being toxic and just trying to brag are not working on gens, not being progressive. Best thing to do is just continue a chase, let themselves slow down the game. Catch them out of position afterwards.
Don't chase them where they want to be chased.
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Play like you normally would. Some of them just want your attention because they know they can loop you into oblivion while the rest gets gens done. I personally enjoy a good teabag at a pallet. Taking the time to spam crouch means you're not putting any distance between me and you while I break the pallet. Flashlight clicks, I don't care about. I care about flashlight saves, thanks for reminding me you have a flashlight doofus. Overconfident players usually pay for it in some way. Play the game the way you intended from the beginning. Facecamping achieves nothing but ensuring you're bored and probably more tilted than the person on the hook.
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