Legion's stun time

It really is. That's why mettle was such a ######### perk, it gave you two health states that gave you another chance when you threw your first one away. 1 chase can make a major difference in whether you win as a killer or not. The fact that you don't know this is sad. If someone throws away a first chase, that's them being idiotic. Who in their right mind would let themselves get hit just so a killer can bait their dead hard? It would make more sense to loop as much as possible, then get hit, and then use DH. I've never seen anyone use your "strategy" lmao. Any killer will tell you that even 2 minute can screw a killer over. Getting rid of the first chase greatly helps.

The Plague is different as she has to waste time getting slowed by throwing up on survivors. This is why she's a low tier killer, she can't get the first hit in until she's thrown up on a survivor for a while. High walls and loops make this even harder for her to achieve.

And again, you're not eking into account that the survivor doesn't always know where Legion is coming from or if they're even coming toward them. They can easily run into the killer. This is also a matter of how good you are. If you choose to go after the guy halfway across the map, then that's on you and you're obviously not going to get a hit. Even then you still close a whole bunch of distance that you wouldn't have done without FF. Mending takes much longer than a sprinting Legion's power, he can easily secure another hit and provide more pressure. If you're good, you'll get a down and get EVRN MORE pressure. It snot my fault you're just bad.

And uh, I'm not saying Legion is nurse level lmao. I'm saying he's not that bad of a killer that he should be able to two tap like the Nurse. What the nurse needs is a much longer stun time or a complete rework of her power, you can't even compare them.

Your arguments sound like you didn't care at all about the fun for Legion mains.

Many Legion mains like to have fun. We don't do it as job.

Punishments make no fun for the player that are suffering under it. Especially if they come up by every opportunity the Legion offers (you like to use your abilite?-stun, you miss a hit?-stun, you like to vault?-na, na, na->only slower as the pre patch Legion, you like to be fast?-na, na, na->only slower as the pre patch Legion, you like to down someone with your special abilitie?-how could you have this idea!, you like to see deep wound progress?-of course not!, 1 special abilitie works only outside of tr-check! = that covers almost 95%+ of the Legion gameplay if not more).

Omg this needs to be done to legion ASAP lol. I agree with ppl that have AMAZING BIG BRAIN buffs and reworks for legion. Like idk why the devs have legion tied up . Like the potential they can have is pretty big.

Honestly Legion's 2.7.0 rework was a travesty, it's undefendable how sloppy and not thought out it was with the only argument being "It wasn't the biggest thing to worry about" which funny enough makes it look even less thought out, 80% of the killers addons were nerfed into oblivion being made unusable in every situation except for the Blades (which weren't even good after 2.7.0 but hey let's nerf things that nobody on Earth asked to nerf), Iridescent button, and duration addons). It sucks how the one time they touched them in over 7 months was a buff with unnecessary nerfs (reduced mend time and nerfing builds with perks like sloppy and STBFL for the moronic excuse of consistency meanwhile half of the other roster has far better abilities and doesn't have to worry a damn thing about "consistency", and the purple blade which was already a mediocre addon that existed to exist 3.5 seconds to 2.5 seconds). Overall I can't deny the latest patch came with necessary buffs but there wasn't a need for a give and take, he's not even good lol.

They need to reduce the stun duration and everyone knows it even the devs, there's 0 reason for it to be so forgiving at 4 seconds. I'd make a list of other necessary changes but everyone else has already done it.

Bhvr has no excuse and so I will never show mercy for the Legionpatches.

To pre-patch times bhvr got warned from Legion mains and some survivors that the next patch would destroy the Legion as we know it - a already weak killer to that time.

They have not listen.

Now in the aftermath they refuse to listen to all the ideas around the Legion. Nobody can say, that there would be nothing.

From a simple undone of the Legion patches to completely new ideas - they have a whide array where they can choose from.

And as such they deserve to get reminded over and over again about it until they have done something good.

If someone on purpose takes the fun out of a large group of people, he deserves to be reminded on it until he mentally vomits in disgust for the crap he has done.

Legion is dead

I don't mind ds by survivors, if it is not in the late game of the match - it gives you one more reason to hunt them and with that, more bps.

However. With the stun stuff you are imo right and I also feel me "forced" to tunnel.

The frenzy of the old Legion had give you the peace to use it whenever you want. As a result you have attack your first target and then move on.

Today you can't. Either you can not use your frenzy abilitie, because m1 penalitie (that means you have to stick on your target if you attack with m1 first), or you really weigh innerly the need of frenzy with your current situation, because you know that you will eat a feeled 2 hour long stun after frenzy, or a stun after a missed hit and that leads at least me often into the situation that I just m1 the survivor. Even if I need to tunnel him.

M1 attacks have at least no freaking stuns and I can use them whenever I need them.

Should bhvr's goal have been, to reduce the need for the Legion to tunnel, so I need to say... Well it has backfired badly thanks to the frenzy changes.

If they would like to see a Legion that stays away from tunneling, they should buff frenzy more as already - maybe even back to the old days - so that it is a viable alternative to m1 attacks (I mean here just frenzy not dw, to be clear).

-I need to admit, I don't know the actual statistics for the Legion after the newest patch. I would love to have a link for it.

-Imo, the complaining has to do with that the Legion currently feels clunky, not as fun anymore as to her first release and not fitting to the way they were advertised.

I don't know what people think who buy the Legion about their winning chances, but we can highly assume, that the most people think that they buying a fast moving killer and while that is true thanks to the basic and frenzy speed - it is not what you get.

Your speed doesn't matter if you are stuck in code-skeleton that punish you for every of your actions either directly, or indirectly, additonal to all the things other killers get already punished for even without any restrictions.

And not every Legion-change would be bad for survivors. A few small changes in frenzy as example could take the pressure from Legion-players away to tunnel and I guess that would everybody make happy (well.. ok... If you like getting tunneled you will be disappointed, but it looks like as would the most people dislike it).

Edit: With the last patch got frenzy already buffed and the world still turns :). Now a few more changes and the most problems would be gone.