So the official PlayStation Blog is promoting camping...

@Master said:
Flipkick661 said:

Just stumbled upon a blog post on the European PlayStation Blog, with tips on how to play DbD, as it is one of this months free PS+ games. I found it very interesting to see the 4th bulletpoint on how to play Killer:

"4. Bait the hook

Grab a weakened survivor, stick them on a hook and then…hide nearby. Wait. Would-be rescuers will be distracted long enough for you to launch an attack."

I'm a killer main myself, but encouraging new players to camp hooks is a surefire way to turn off any potential newcomers from playing survivor.

Not sure if you realized, but camping isn't a bad thing.
And in fact, bailing the hook is one of the strongest strategies because this way the survivors come to you and you don't have to follow them running in circles just to be stunned by a pallet

Experienced survivors make a u-turn and do all of the gens while you think they are still close and whine in post lobby about gen rushing.

It is part of the game and, at times, is a smart move. I see nothing wrong with it.

Hell, even the Devs said something along the lines of this around/before the time of release in a Dev Diary.

Camping has been an announced feature since the beta. Insidious is a camping perk. Leatherface is the king of basement camping.

Yet survivor mains somehow think that camping is bannable.

Killer mains just want the game to die, and to make the game as unwelcoming to new players as possible.

/shrug

AshleyWB said:

Camping is a valid strategy BUT some killers use it as an excuse to play cheaply and dirty to exploit how the game works. It's easy to say it's part of the game and a lot harder to address it as an issue. 

You mean like running in circles?

Camping is a legit strategy. A killer is not responsible for the fun of the survivor.

Looping is a legit strategy. A survivor is not responible for the fun of the killer.

lasombra1979 said:

Camping is a legit strategy. A killer is not responsible for the fun of the survivor.

Looping is a legit strategy. A survivor is not responible for the fun of the killer.

This. 

Both suck for the other side and are frustrating.  Neither side is responsible for playing by the other sides made up rules.  Getting your ass handed to you in any game or sport sucks, especially when its not because you lack skill, but lets all get some perspective 

The devs should fix the looping issues, but holding it against survivors for using the tools at thier disposal is counterproductive.  Once looping is fixed, camping will be less rewarding than looking for other survs.  Then, and only then, would I support looking at ways to actively deter camping.

Before anyone asks, I play surv at red ranks and despite calling myself a killer main (I like killer more, but can't play with friends) I dont usually get past purple ranks.

I never loop, because it "feels bad" for both me and the killer, but that is a personal choice.  I do, however, FL save and blind at pallets and do other things I hate as killer, which I dont hold against other survs when I play killer.  T-bagging is always a chump move and I dont do it, ever.

Tizzle said:

@Tsulan said:
AshleyWB said:

Camping is a valid strategy BUT some killers use it as an excuse to play cheaply and dirty to exploit how the game works. It's easy to say it's part of the game and a lot harder to address it as an issue. 

You mean like running in circles?

Yeah, I'm sure these brand new Survivors THAT HAVE NEVER PLAYED THE GAME BEFORE at Rank 20 are running Killers in circles.

Camping at that Rank is a surefire way to turn off new players.

The clown show turns off old players.

All I hear is waaaahhhhh waaahhhh. You're a killer killing people. Why the hell wouldnt you camp near a half dead person on a hook?

AshleyWB said:

Exploiting in my eyes is taking advantage and is part if the game. Cheating is different. Toxic strategies are unfun generally but they can be excused by saying oh its a valid strategy. Like one time the killer bodyblocked me in a dead end room for 20 mins with no doors or Windows and refused to hit me ir move then claimed to use strategy when I told him he played unfairly.

Unfortunately, "exploiting" has a definition that is different from that. It is taking advantage of UNINTENDED game features to gain an UNFAIR advantage, and is not allowed.

However, the example you give where the killer blocked you in for 20 minutes without hitting you or moving IS a reportable offense.

@Flipkick661 said:
Wow, I created this thread because I was surprised to see Sony encouraging a strategy that breeds toxicity (not patrolling a hook, litterally camping it). I'm aware that the strategy is "legit" and the devs condone it, but it doesn't make it any less unsportsmanlike, and survivors witnessing this behavior time and time again are sure to employ equally toxic strategies in an attempt to counter this. Furthermore it's a boring strategy for both the killer and the hooked survivor. New players reading the blog post will end up thinking that this is how the game should always be played, and will end up walking away from the borefest that is staring at a hook with a struggling survivor.

Once again, I'm a killer main, and I pretty much never play survivor. I'm not above admitting that I've used the strategy from time to time, but I much prefer running perks that reward moving away from the hook, as it's a lot more fun, and in my experience a much more effective way of winning games. I don't buy into the "it's not my job to ensure my opponent has fun" attitude many people in this thread seem to share. The way I see it, it's in all of our best interest to ensure that some fun is had on both sides, otherwise we'll end up with a toxic mess of the game, that will be so far from enjoyable, it'll die out.

I doubt that it will die out because of some camping low rank killers. The toxic problem comes more from the videos of Ochido and Noob3.
We already have a toxic mess of a game. But surprisingly it hasn´t hurt the game. So i really don´t see the problem with Sony. Camping has been announced as a feature from the beginning. It´s a design choice. Killers get encouraged to leave the hook by perks like BBQ and MYC. But survivor don´t like those perks for whatever unlogic reason. Devs can only give players the tools. But it´s their choice if they want to play one way or another.

The borefest takes maximum 2 minutes (even less if the camped survivor gives up) and then he can search a new game.
And let´s be honest. Killers get called out for camping all the time. Even if they don´t camp.

@Master said:

@Tizzle said:

@Tsulan said:
AshleyWB said:

Camping is a valid strategy BUT some killers use it as an excuse to play cheaply and dirty to exploit how the game works. It's easy to say it's part of the game and a lot harder to address it as an issue. 

You mean like running in circles?

Yeah, I'm sure these brand new Survivors THAT HAVE NEVER PLAYED THE GAME BEFORE at Rank 20 are running Killers in circles.

Camping at that Rank is a surefire way to turn off new players.

Well as a rank 18 killer you can easily verse a SWF consisting of 3 rank 1s and a single rank 20. Now try to argue taht you wont be looped in that game

I wonder how a "baby killer" will react after such a game. He will be like "#########, I need to get better" proceeds to google and finds out that the only way how to get better is by playing nurse or tunnel/camp.

I remember a free weekend were tons of rank 1 swf groups tried to bully noob killers.