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is legion actually meta in red ranks?
I've been playing legion a LOT since the new changes and with the new perks, he really seem better than he once was, and i'll explain 1 build I use (yes in red ranks) and 85% of the time have merciless, with legion in red ranks, merciless.
The build is:
Thanatophobia, legion power is to injure many survivor at once, so this perk is a must, since you can injure all 4 survivors in 1 feral frenzy (if you are lucky) you have the 16% directly, which is really nice, for healing speed and gen repair speed.
Bbq & chili, you could change this perk if you wish, i use this perk on every killer but if i make a specific build, no need to explain why i use it
Surge: legion job like i said is to injure survivors quickly and have many injured at once, since most of the time they will always be injured, you only need to M1 once on the survivors, you'll most likely find them already injured so you don't have to give 2 hits to make this perk work, so you can actually make a good use of it.
Blood echo, again, legion injure survivors quickly, the more they are injured, the better this perk is, being able to take away survivors from dead hard or balanced landing, any exhaustion perk at all, is a massive advantage, you always keep them injured, so this perk is really really good on him.
Add-ons:
Duration add-on, take the one you want, but obviously stolen sketch book is the best one, having more time to stab everyone so make everyone injured, have the thanatophobia debuff, you need duration, they are a must no matter what.
Legion pin or defaced smiley pin (legion pin is the best option) having the thanatophobia debuff on the survivor as long as possible is a good advantage, so it also works extremely well for blood echo and for surge, being unable to heal, having a debuff, 1 hit to down, use the legion pin.
How to use:
The point of the build is to make use of every single perk you have at all time,you start the game, you find someone, you start feral frenzy and you hunt down as many survivors as you can, making them broken and giving everyone a debuff, making them take more time to do gens or waste time to heal is always good for any killer, once they are all injured and most of them are broken, it takes one hit to down them, so surge comes into play if there was a gen being worked on not too far away from you, you hook the survivor, and since everyone or mostly everyone is injured, they are all exhausted for 40 seconds, and with bbq you can see where they are, you don't have tyo worry about any exhaustion perk, you down them in 1 hit, if surge is back you also damage the gen(s) they were working on, so more points in gate keeper, and also the gens are damaged, you save time by not having to damage them and they also lose some progression, and you keep repeating the same things over and over again, the pressure is constant, the debuff is always there, the exhaustion is always there, the damaged gens are always there.
Of course if you aren't a really good legion I don't guarante the build will work well for you, this build obviously doesn't give a free win, and it also depend of the map or how close survivors are from each other, big maps won't be good for this build since you won't be able to injure many if they are seperated.
But i know that with this build, in red ranks, i keep getting merciless each time I get a 4K, and even if i don't kill anyone, i did so much injuries, damaged so many gens, and found so many survivors, i still have a brutal, so unless you really can't do anything, you can't depip with this build.
Try it out and enjoy legion again :)
Thanks for reading.
(sorry for bad grammar)
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Wait, Legion is still a killer? I thought he was repurposed into a survivor.
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believe it not, he still is! and I murder survivors with him!
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You lie. You just put on a show for the entity. We know you secretly love the survivors. I saw you trying to catch a peek at Claudette when she was doing her business in a bush ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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and i stabbed her >:3
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Legion heh. Meta..heh. Red ranks, good one.
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Although I love legion, this build doesn’t seem that good to me, especially if people aren’t using exhaustion perks and thana isn’t hard to deal with.
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My Optimal Build is Surge/Thrilling Tremors/PGTW/Infectious Fright. Fuming Mixtape to find Gens being worked on, and either Cold Dirt or The Legion Pin.
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it is your right to not agree,
but i want to share my build that gives me merciless killer in red ranks so people can experience it too,
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Fair enough. :)
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i personally never used fuming mixtape, i always thought it was a really useless add-on, but thanks for the build
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Surge pushes Survivors off their gens with that 8% regression, Thrilling Tremors to lock off gens so they can regress a bit, PGTW to hit those gens that are outside Surge, and Infectious Fright to find the general location of the other survivors.
Fuming Mixtape is great because you can tell immediately which Gen is touched as it turned light pink,
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make sense
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Not a great build. Completely map dependant. You get The Game? This build is great. You get Red Forest? Not so much.
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glady i mentionned it.
and try it out because saying it's bad(?)
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That's were PGTW comes in handy, Fuming Mixtape helps you find the gen most repaired so you can pop it down. If your observant a survivor will usually be around to tap it and there you go tense and repeat.
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No ruin means that the game will be over in 5 minutes in high rank.
Legion doesnt snowball good enough to avoid ruin.
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I did actually.
Ruin, BBQ, PGTW and a perk of your choice works much better. I like Bamboozle, but I've put on Sloppy and NOED too.
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@Icomplain interestingly enough I just published a very long post on Legion with a very, very different build and play style. In fact, one of the premises is that using Legion as a slow down killer is the wrong thing to do :P
Give it a read: https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/114017/new-legion-how-to-play-them-right-long-post
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I mean, I hope you can take criticism but I don't think that that build is as effective as some things I have seen people use and I use regularly. I now run Thana (like you because this is core to this build), dying light (stacks up with thana to be painful to deal with healing or otherwise), ruin (slow the game down just a little bit until you have dying light stacks), and pop goes the weasel to push the progress they do get down again.
Don't get me wrong, this is probably extremely annoying to deal with and makes things feel boring for the survivors but I have found that I never really black pip or depip with it. The add-ons I would recommend would be the same since it relies on thana being up all/most all of the game (legion pin and a duration add-on).
I really don't think that surge is that worth running on any killer without surveillance and then you need a killer to take advantage of it but some people I know really love it. Blood echo is also quite weird to run as the bleeding effect happening more often is really a gimmicky thing (imo because I don't really use blood due to unreliability in most maps) and exhaustion will only help if you are on top of survivors quick enough to take advantage of it and they have to actually have one equipped. Please don't misunderstand but I think the premise of your build is nice but too situational for the games I play.
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I would swap out surge for dying light or overcharge. Mainly because I haven't unlocked surge yet, but still. This is pretty close to my optimal slow Dow build.
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you sure?
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thanks for your comment, and i know this build is not meant for everyone.
yes it can be really situational, but the fact i can minimum get a brutal no matter what, is good for me
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Ruin is so overrated, it only helps a lot against the survivors you don’t need it against.
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It is EXTREMELY easy to pip as Legion. That's just a well-known fact.
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we both definetly play legion differently, i see him as someone who injure everyone quickly and use this to it's advantage to add pressure with the perks i use in this build, it works fine for me most of the time, if your build works fine for you msot of the time as well, it means both builds could be viable, tho in my opinion, running monitor and stbfl on legion since his frenzy doesn't give tokens isn't a good idea, i know you can use your power to keep your obsession injured and not lose tokens and quickly find other survivors to get more tokens, which obviously is a good strategy, but i'd rather have a slow down with exhausted effect.
we both have ouw own play style, and both can work well, not because i use legion as a slow down it means i use him wrong, and not because you use him yo give lots of pressure means you do it wrong either, but thanks for your comment
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agreed, i only use ruin on trapper and hag, because you need preparation
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I wasn't implying that you are wrong in using Legion with a slow down build - I was just paraphrasing what I wrote in my post (which is obviously only my opinion, not a fact), that is I don't think Legion is a slow down killer per se. You can use them with a slow down build however, I just don't agree that's the best approach, but after all it all comes down to different play styles.
I'm happy that you can have fun and get good results with your build!
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My curent build is: Thana, Bamboozle, Ruin or Corrupt and Discordance.
I use Ruin or Corrupt for early game pressure, no sh**!
Thana syergieses with Discordance to get 4 potential Frenzy hits and Bamboozle to shut down loops, it also increases Frenzy vault a bit.
I usually switch Add-Ons every time to experiment but usually I use the yellow Mangled Pin Addon and probably duration, even if he doesn't need it with the new speed.
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No, Legion isn't meta and the fact you get Merciless with him means nothing when Legion is the best killer to get pips with, you can get a 0 or 1 kill and still pip with him. Also, your build really doesn't seem that good and you pretty much play Legion as a weaker Plague, because that what Legion really is.
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I'm a legion main and no, he's definitely not meta.
Survivors either hate me on legion, or give their condolences because of how they've treated my boy.
If you know how to use him, he can get the job done. But he's no spirit, Billy, or nurse... of ghostface if you're into that kinda thing...
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Legion is absolutely the best killer to rank up on because they just bamboozle the pip system.
They're also one of the worst for actually killing people.
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While i haven't been able to try this build myself yet (don't have the perks :( )
I am glad that people are finding different ways to play them
In short is Legion meta? No not at all
Are they useless? Not at all either
Especially if you play for emblems
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Whoa whoa whoa! Don't go making people feel like they are allowed to have an opinion here Groot! Soon we may all start getting along and working together to build a better community. Where would I post my snide comments and memes then!?
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Legion is Definetely good in the right hands
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Raging_Ryuga has actually uploaded a 20 game streak with Legion on youtube
I haven't watches the whole thing yet but he seems to do pretty good
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I like his videos.
Even I have not the same opinion about the Legion like he has.
I still think that the Legion could use 2-3 small buffs for balance and fun reasons.
Some eyeroll maybe by the word "fun", but since the word "unfun" was an argument against the Legion, it is only fair and equal towards survivor wishes, that we can also use the words "fun" and "unfun", imo.
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I also agree the Legion needs some tweaking
Mostly on the restricting factors of his power, especially the harsh penalty on missed attacks in FF
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Yeah that actual would be in my eyes one of those "fun" things. Every killer develops with time a high hit rate anyways. On the other hand, -to run always around with the chance of getting punished for a missed hit in mind, is pretty unfun. At least in my eyes.
But for balancing I think, m1 attacks should no longer interfere with the frenzy ability. Also the stun after frenzy is imo too long and should be reduced about something of 2-3 seconds.
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I think the stun time is kinda a tough subject, it can't be too short cause survivors do need to be able to get somewhere after the bassicly garrentied hit FF gives
It is very long right now though
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Yes, but how many time need a survivor today to get away from the killer, if the killer not moves, or walks in the wrong direction (basically the blinded stun situation)?
Today, survivor's can move indescribably far if they have the right perks and not too much in their way, in the time until the Legion stun ends.
The Legion stun after frenzy is imo a "get free card" for survivors if they make not something fundamentally wrong.
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No, Wraith is.
🤣
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I'm not saying your wrong
I'm just saying that's a very hard thing to get right
I want Legion to be stronger but i don't want to ge back to the days that people quit on the spot the second they saw ýou were Legion
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I understand that, but the truth is, those days still persist, -just for every killer.
I hope the dc penalty fixes this now.
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Are you kidding? Ruin gives no extra time against good survivors.
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I believe you could get merciless in red ranks that often with Legion. However, that's an issue that has more to do with survivor ranking and matchmaking. If survivors do what they're supposed to, i.e. split up across different generators, Legion instantly becomes an M1 killer with a 4 second stun out of a power that can't down survivors. Understand that this is not a knock on your skills, just that many red rank survivors don't know what they're doing. When Legion is matched with survivors who do, their power hurts the killer more than the survivors.
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