Feedback | Disconnect Penalty Test

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So, we get penalised for bugs, glitches, and crashes? That's very unfair and you'll lose alot of players. I get DC'ing is an issue. But it's a game. Move on to the next match. I don't like the fact that we still get penalised for the games screw up?🤷‍♀️

Yes for sure. I was shocked to see how often this is happening. On first hook, people attempt escape then don't struggle. Effectively worse than a DC, because it takes about 20 seconds, during which time other survivors might be risking a rescue, which may involve risk of detection, whereas a flat DC doesn't expose other survivors to immediate risk because they know immediately there's no one to save.

I had a good chance to get to the next color rank yesterday, which is a big deal for me because I suck. No exaggeration - I played four matches, and each time, at least one other survivor DC'd or quasi-DC'd, so I depipped four times. Frustrating.

I'm not a rage quitter by any means, BUT if I'm getting trolled, tunneled, or camped (not proximity, I mean like dude set up a tent and is roasting marshmallows in my face)... then I'm probably going to kill myself on hook so I can get into a new game and potentially have actual fun. Blatant facecamping in particular—with or without the killer repeatedly hitting me on hook—makes me feel like I'm playing a game with a 10-year-old. If I wanted to watch a bratty child struggle with their ego I'd become a fifth grade teacher. I'm good.

Another instance where I might do this is extreme lag. If I'm rubber banding all over the place (sometimes this happens even if the ping in the lobby is fine) then I'm not going to DC, but I'm also not going to make an effort to continue the game when I do get downed. Why should I have to suffer through an all but unplayable game to avoid a penalty?

I for one, am very happy about the DC penalty system. I no longer have matches where an over entitled turd immediately DC's for petty reasons like getting found by the killer first, what killer it is, what map we're on, etc, and have been able to enjoy more full matches without a DC in the past day and a half, than I have since the DC epidemic began last winter. It feels good to actually be playing DbD again, instead of having my matches ruined by toxic players bratty behavior.

True, yesterday I encountered an enormous amount of players killing themselves on their first hook, but today that seems to be dying down. I expect that it'll become the norm to replace DC'ing, and wonder if anything can be done to counteract this unsportsmanlike behavior? Perhaps a time limit, like if they die from one hook in less than 30 seconds (the time it takes to make unhook attempts + dying from not struggling in second phase) within the first 5 minutes of a match means that they purposely killed themselves on hook, and get the DC punishment treatment? I dunno if this would work and survivors would likely just wait for 30 seconds before killing themselves on the hook, but at least then they have to give their team 30 seconds to attempt rescue. Still something needs to be done to get the message across that if you queued up for a match, no matter how unfavorable you perceive it, you should keep playing until the end.

As for getting penalized due to bugs, internet outages and crashes... that hurts but since it happens far less often than the petty DC epidemic reasons, I have no problem with this at all. Some people may crash, experience bugs or internet connection issues more often than others, but I'm betting that those people are in the minority of the community by comparison, and if/when this new system goes live, it won't be nearly as much of an issue as they're currently complaining about.

Overall, I find myself remembering how fun DbD was around the time of the Spirits release, when I was playing matches and could go 2 full weeks without experiencing one disconnect from teammates or killers, and this test has brought that feeling back so shockingly well, that I realize I had forgotten how good it felt, and now I don't want the test to end.

I know you're getting a lot of complaints about this test Devs, but for the first time in over a year (Because of this DC penalty test), I'm having consistent fun with the game again. If there are any major bugs with the system, by all means fix them, but don't (Not even for a second) consider backing down on this change due to those complaints. This is a solid step in making the game enjoyable for everyone, and should have been part of the game from the beginning. The DC'ers undoubtedly want to sabotage this test through complaining on the forums so that they can keep enjoying the toxic playstyle to which they've become accustomed. They almost completely ruined this game last May when the DC epidemic hit its peak, and I was ready to quit altogether, but this test proves to me you actually listened to our outcries against DC'ers, and are doing something about it.

Stand Firm against the complainers, fix or adjust what needs to be adjusted, but don't cave in to them. You're doing the right thing for the health of this game, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

I got a DC timer for the game crashing during loading screen. That's kinda stupid. I didn't have any control over the game crashing on its own. Fix this issue because that's not fair for many other survivors/killers to have to be timed out for your game crashing on its own. The queues are long enough as it is.

Got my internet sorted out this morning and fixed. Tested it out by playing other games (Stardew, Fortnite, Minecraft, etc.) and had no lag or disconnection issues.

Tried playing DBD around 8pm CST and after completing 2 gens, was DC'd from the game. It was not my internet this time. Kicked from the game, had an error pop up about unable to save game/rank data, and was back to the lobby without the ability to look at points or pips.

Penalty was the same as last night, 3:30. And that was after one DC tonight which was not my fault on my end.

I've seen alot less disconnecting on switch which is definitely a positive for both survivor and killer.

I just got a 53 mins Ban when i was trying play as killer with the Plague, because the loading screen got frozen for 20 mins and i had to force close the game, yesterday my game crashed 2 times and seems it stacked with today when i force close the game, i wrotte the suport but seems i m not getting answer.

This patch its a mistake, now killers can be as toxic as they want because they know survs get banned if DC, this last 2 days i see all killlers doing facecamp and tunnel to death + pink mori, just because they dont fear be punished by survs with a DC, so they just are the most toxic possible with the hope survs give up and suicide, and if not just pink mori they. They now can also make survs their slaves and force them to do engines, then destroy the engine and force they to built the engine again in a infinite loop of farming, because survs cant DC anymore against toxic behaviours on killers.

It also punish killers since survs are also killers when they play as killers, this opressive system its gonna hurt killers and survs, and leave the field open to facecamping, tunneling, slugging, and all the toxic stuff a killer wants to do, since survs dosnt have anymore a tool to punish a bad behaviour on the killer, not to mention getting banned 24 hours cuz the loading screens are bugged as hell.

Yes but that's freedom right there. And it's the less impactful thing that can occur. Sometimes I die on the hook cauz I stopped pressing the button by accident.

Unfortunately, all that has come from this DC "fix" is people intentionally dying on hooks instead.

Fix the things that make people want to disconnect, not just force them to play

God knows I agree with you, but unfortunately it seems that the community is mostly made up of a bunch of people who are not able to control themselves and their feelings. Otherwise I can't explain all the screaming for ( harder ) punishment.

The Devs of Deathgarden had made a good approach:

Encourage them to stay in the game instead of punishing a DC from the game.

I have linked to a letter from me to the devs above, if you are interested.

Here is an idea for an alternative to the DC bans. Instead of a time out keep the downpip penalty for DCing but remove the down piping if you actually stay and finish the match.

Can only give positive feedback, a much needed and long overdue change. I went from seeing so many people dc during my matches (mostly survivors) to getting almost none.

Can't wait for it to finally go live.

I loved it, the quality of matches genuinely went up.

After DC penalties test. More survivors decided to KOBE the hooks early game, and then there were TONS of steam threads about killers wanting KOBE bans due to lack of points they gained in a match and survivors mad their team mates took the first hook.

Actions speak volumes. Either killers get their EZ wins and should stop complaining or steps should be taken into account that DCs didn't come out of thin-air. The game has been around 3 years and the only things that have really forced this type of Behavior is End Game Collapse, and what BHVR did with Pallet loops/ Pallet Vacuums.

None of the Dedicated servers were even ONLINE before the DC epidemic hit.

A lot of people have given out a lot of feedback surrounding this system. And I'm here to tell you my personal answer.

Don't implement this system.

Hi, I'm a killer main. And I'm here to tell you that Dead by Daylight is a video game where when you get hooked, you can just #########. Nothing would change if you implemented a DC penalty. In fact, the game would just get worse-- because you'd be punishing all players for the game being buggy as hell, as I'm doubtful your system can differentiate a ragequit and your character clipping into a generator and being rendered immobile.

I think you're missing a point in "DC penalty".

It has been added to discourage players from leaving the game, but also playing when you know you'll have to leave it earlier. Both of those situations make game unbalanced for 4 others and that's why imho it should persist.

Not accounting bugs, the DC penalty for pulling the plug instead of clicking leave match, should stay the way it is.

My feedback on it:

I wouldn't implement the system because players KOBE'd the hook so much, that most people couldn't really have a match.

i. DC is player feedback to problems that have been created. As a player of the game. I found survivor to be more frustrating to play more than it was last year. Im a stealth player and do not enjoy BBQ. Distortion doesn't work worth anything and My playstyle isn't looping killers around jungle gyms, yet trying to adapt to that play style doesn't work for me.

ii. The pallet vacuums were pretty good for a long time and then since the removal of it. It is not viable for me anyway.

iii. The end game collapse has NOT been appealing from a survivor stand point. Everything about it. Doesn't work for me. Hatch closing feels like being cheated and all efforts do not matter. So If I can kobe as the first player down, or the second. I will take it. vs sticking around for more of the match. Because either way I am cheated if I am one of the last 2 remaining survivors.

iv. Medkits going from insta-heals isn't appealing now, at all. It feels like inventory space being used up and the old medkit plays were thrilling. Now, this is just BORING.

v. Exhaustion status perks are useless now. With the way they are nerfed, it doesn't make for good defensive plays now.

vi. As a survivor I don't feel a sense of desire to remain trying in a match anymore, so If I have team mates that aren't doing so great. I'd rather just kobe the hook and move on to my next match

I use to play alot of Killer until the Q times became too long. More than likely because this game isn't appealing to survivor-mains right now. Hence cause = effect.

I am a big fan of the disconnect penalty and in my personaly solo queue experience is seriously required.

My pointers would be:

• the penalties should be FAR more agressieve on repetative disconnects. After the 3rd disconnect they should have some serious cooldown time. Not 15 minutes where they made a sandwhich grab a drink come back and play again. These penalties are VERY mild compared to a lot of other games.
• With the infinite loading issue I think its better not to punish people that "disconnect" during loading. Sure they could abuse it to dodge mori's. But good people shouldnt get punished for getting hit by the infinite loading screen. Which can also result in an entire SWF group having to wait it out aswell.

Still, at the rate of disconnects we are currently in, even an imperfect system would be a blessing.

erm... i'm pretty sure a pip got took away from me just for cancelling matchmaking lobby? and i'm facing long ques without dc'ing this past week at least.