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Furtive Chase FINALLY Serves a Purpose!

Furtive Chase is a dog crap perk. Like it's a legitimate contender for worst killer perk. But if you happen to be working on the challenge Darkly Obsessed (hook obsession 10 times) then this perk is great. Pair it up with Nemesis and you can really rack up those obsession hooks!

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  • GrootDude
    GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110
    edited December 2019

    Level 3 Ghostface I’ll do it anyway! 👿

  • humanbeing1704
    humanbeing1704 Member Posts: 8,998

    If it was terror radius in general instead of mid chase that would be super good with monitor and abuse

  • Dreamnomad
    Dreamnomad Member Posts: 3,965
    edited December 2019

    Oh btw, if anyone was curious Nemesis and Furtive Chase have good synergy. The Nemesis effect doesn't actually require being stunned. You just need the obsession to change players. So every time the obsession is unhooked you get the aura and oblivious effect on the unhooker. Pair it up with Make Your Choice for good times. This isn't really anything more than a meme build, but it is quite fun.

  • GrootDude
    GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110

    I got nine hooks in one game with it. :)

  • HellDescent
    HellDescent Member Posts: 4,883

    those two, plus MYC on Freddy=ez challenge

  • Dreamnomad
    Dreamnomad Member Posts: 3,965

    Yeah. It's absolutely doable in a single game. It took me 2 games though. The first match was against pretty competent survivors and I only got 5 obsession hooks. The second match was against potato survivors and I feel confident that I could have got 10 obsession hooks that game. I killed my obsession at one point. Then I downed a survivor and carried her to a pallet and hit the pallet while she wiggled free. Sure enough she dropped the pallet and became my new obsession with Nemesis =)

  • GrootDude
    GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110

    My first survivors were ok but the second ones weren’t good, I got to T3 by stalking someone when I was at the top of the Asylum and they didn’t even know.

  • Lightsaber09
    Lightsaber09 Member Posts: 46
    edited December 2019

    But you cant get 10 hooks in a single game

    As it turns out there are im fact 4 survivors resulting in a total of 12 hooks. I apologize I am dumb

  • Dreamnomad
    Dreamnomad Member Posts: 3,965

    Lol. Surprised you didn't just delete the comment. At least you caught the mistake yourself. It's always worse when someone else points out something obvious.

  • Mr_K
    Mr_K Member Posts: 9,250

    Yep, helped a lot doing the challenge yesterday.

  • Peanits
    Peanits Dev Posts: 7,555

    I've always liked it with Play With Your Food on Wraith. It's a good way to keep the obsession changing so you can go fast without worrying about tunneling. Definitely not meta, but it makes fun builds, and I'll take a fun build over something powerful any day.

  • Cancan71
    Cancan71 Member Posts: 709

    Well now Nemesis does the same thing but better as you'll be in a chase with your obsession, so unless you really want to run Furtive Chase as well it's kind of pointless.

    Now Nemesis + Furtive Chase + Make Your Choice could be a fun combo.

  • Sonzaishinai
    Sonzaishinai Member Posts: 7,976
  • Dreamnomad
    Dreamnomad Member Posts: 3,965

    The problem is the perk might as well say "Whenever your obsession gets unhooked the survivor that performed the unhook becomes your obsession." The intended purpose of the perk is so bad it might as well be non-existent. The entire purpose of using a perk shouldn't be the supporting mechanic implemented to make it work. It could be more than a silly meme perk without being overpowered or problematic.

  • Peanits
    Peanits Dev Posts: 7,555

    I've actually seen people use it pretty creatively. With a killer like the Hag, you can use it to have an 8m terror radius when in a chase. It makes switching targets very easy because they won't even know you're there until it's too late.

    Again, not meta, but it's variety, and that spices things up.

  • NuclearBurrito
    NuclearBurrito Member Posts: 6,807

    I'd actually want the perks effect to also keep the TR low for X seconds after the chase ends, where X scales with the # of tokens. Maybe 5 seconds per token?

    20 seconds of a 16 meter reduced TR every chase isn't bad.

  • Dreamnomad
    Dreamnomad Member Posts: 3,965

    I don't think anyone is asking for it to become some super meta perk. Not every perk will be powerful. But at least don't insult us. For example if the perk did the following:

    Furtive Chase- You become obsessed with one Survivor. You lurk in the shadows, eliminating your victims one by one. When your Obsession is hooked, Furtive Chase receives a Token. Each Token decreases your terror radius in a chase and for 4 seconds after the chase ends by 4/6/8 meters. When a Survivor rescues the Obsession from a Hook, the rescuer becomes the Obsession. You lose all Tokens if the Obsession is sacrificed or killed. You can only be obsessed with one Survivor at a time.

    That would still not be overpowered or problematic in the slightest. But at least a player could justify using it as more than a means to change obsessions.

  • Peanits
    Peanits Dev Posts: 7,555

    By no means is it meant to insult you, it's just a perk in a video game. You're free to not use it if you wish. If you don't, hey, that's fine too, there's 65 other killers perks out there to choose from.

    I do think that reducing the terror radius by 8m per stack would be a bit much. That would mean having no terror radius the entire time you're chasing someone. I'd be more in favour of a lingering effect if anything.

  • Lightsaber09
    Lightsaber09 Member Posts: 46

    I mean even if I deleted it, wouldn't you still have the notification of me saying it? I don't really use these forums much so im not sure

  • NuclearBurrito
    NuclearBurrito Member Posts: 6,807

    No TR in a chase isn't that helpful. BoP is a little bit better with full on undetectable with the red stain removal and aura immunity that comes with it, but even BoP is just kinda meh.

    A lingering effect is pretty much required for it to be useful on it's own merits.

  • Dreamnomad
    Dreamnomad Member Posts: 3,965

    Even if it was 32 meters per token it wouldn't be too much. That's the point. Having 0 terror radius that's limited to when you are in a chase isn't very helpful. There are already other perks that offer this advantage with far less effort. Beast of Prey and Nemesis for example. Neither of which are good. They are at best mediocre. Making the change I suggested would raise Furtive Chase from worthless meme perk to mediocre. That's it. Once in a while the killer might chase a survivor into another survivor working on a gen or trick the chased survivor into thinking the killer gave up on the chase. I'm really having a hard time understanding the push back. We're not asking for too much.

  • xChrisx
    xChrisx Member Posts: 917
    edited December 2019

    The best build for this challenge Is furtive chase pwyf make your choice and ruin/corrupt