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Can we apreciate nemesis for a second

Sonzaishinai
Sonzaishinai Member Posts: 7,976
edited December 2019 in General Discussions

So many other perks got better thanks to this one

I love it

Comments

  • konchok
    konchok Member, Alpha Surveyor Posts: 1,719
    edited December 2019

    I've been running , pop, make your choice, nemesis, furtive chase on pig. And oh my god is it a fun combo. Getting a zero terror radius, 1 hit on a survivor. Hook them and rinse and repeat. Furtive chase hits 4 stacks in no time. And having a 16 meter terror radius while in chase makes changing targets very effective.

    Edit: we'll make it is supposed to be make your choice. I'm a survivor main, so it's easier for me to remember survivor perks.

  • PistolTimb
    PistolTimb Member Posts: 1,413

    I really adore it too. I've been running it with Furtive chase and make your choice. I hook my obssession, the unhooker becomes the obsession, they become oblivious and I can see them, and they become exposed. Honestly the cheesiest build I've ever ran.

  • Respectfulnancymain
    Respectfulnancymain Member Posts: 1,816

    Isnt we'll make it a survivor perk? Did u mean make your choice?

  • konchok
    konchok Member, Alpha Surveyor Posts: 1,719

    What have you been running as your 4th perk?

    I've had some success with pop, play with your food, and bbq. Play with your food really helps catching the initial survivor, Pop helps with slow down. However, I really feel their downsides. I'm torn between play with your food and pop. I feel like I can't overcome the gen speed without pop. But I'm having a hard time in the early game with what feels like a mountain of pallets. Maybe I'm missing something entirely.

  • FriendlyGuy
    FriendlyGuy Member Posts: 2,768

    Nemesis+PWYF is one of my favourite perk combinations atm.

  • PistolTimb
    PistolTimb Member Posts: 1,413

    I just run Ruin. This build is fun but it's too specialized around the obsession. Without a good slowdown perk, most killers will struggle to make it work.

  • Dwight_Fairfield
    Dwight_Fairfield Member Posts: 7,113

    It was immensely helpful in doing the hook the obsession 10 times challenge. Thanks to Nemesis I got that done in a single match.

  • Sonzaishinai
    Sonzaishinai Member Posts: 7,976

    It bassicly makes every obsession perk better with the exeption of dying light and save the best for last

    Easy triggering of dark devotion and play with your food

    With Furtive Chase makes every person who unhooks the obsesion oblivious and reveals their aura

    Makes it possible to mori everybody with rancor

    And easy stack for remember me and you can make sure that the person who you ate chasing is the obsesion so the other survivors certainly have the slow doors

    And best of all it actual has counter play for survivors as well

    Probably the best designed perk in a while

    I love combo perks like this

  • supersonic853
    supersonic853 Member Posts: 5,574
    edited December 2019

    Dying light is debatable because i did it and then hooked the person who started as the obsession since it always changes you could technically get like 10 stacks of dying light

  • Sonzaishinai
    Sonzaishinai Member Posts: 7,976

    That's true, it also has the benefit that you can make the person you chase the obsession so the debuff apllies only to the people that are actually doing things

    I'm not sure if it's worth the trade-of that more often then not the person you have downed will be the obsession though

    It's definitivly is debatable though

  • anarchy753
    anarchy753 Member Posts: 4,212

    I don't know, I really just feel like it's a do-nothing perk to make other perks function at a useful level.

    I don't want this crap taking up a perk slot just so other obsession perks (which TBH are pretty underwhelming) can work.

    And really, the builds that it works in rely so heavily on survivors not using their eyes, and making mistakes in chases that it just doesn't feel worth it.

  • Decarcassor
    Decarcassor Member Posts: 651

    I wish I could see what others see in Nemesis. But I don't.

    By itself its just "meh". And all thoses "combos" seem to me very overhyped for what they actualy achieve. Nemesis and Play With Your Food appear to be the most convincing one and its still only decent for a couple of killers that have the means to mitigate the loss of stacks.

    That being said, Its nice to see killers experiment with Nemeis. I just don't think its going to revolutionize the meta anytime soon.

  • Sonzaishinai
    Sonzaishinai Member Posts: 7,976

    I'm not sure if it will change the meta either but that's not really what i'm saying

    It's the sheer fun of comboing and making it work that makes me love nemesis so much

    Don't know if you watch people on youtube but almost every video i saw with nemesis , the killer player was exited and having immens amounts of fun

    That beats any meta for me

  • Anevian
    Anevian Member Posts: 47
    edited December 2019

    Ive been running nemesis+pwyf on bubba and having a blast.

    I want to try it on myers next with the addon that let's you stalk the obsession faster.

  • Starr43
    Starr43 Member Posts: 873

    I levelled up my Oni a bit and tried Nemesis, Make Your Choice, and Furtive Chase for the first time.

    It’s insane how deadly it can be.

    I went back to do the “hook your obsession 10 times” and I got 8/10 in that one game.