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When will all the killers get buffs? Feedback for the devs to think about.

Micheal_Myers
Micheal_Myers Member Posts: 1,147
edited December 2019 in General Discussions

-Myers

-Pig

-Hag

-Plague

-Legion

-Demogorgon

-Wraith

-Huntress

[Not counting doctor since hes kinda getting a buff]

All fairly weak.


Especially on every map. (Cause bad Map design =/)


But these characters litterally can get looped for 5 gens because of Gen Speed.


Myers is slow as a sloth and guess what helps to keep him away? Spine Chill. If you know hes coming you got time to hide. Which is kinda B.S. Ghostface can move close to normal speed while stalking. So why would ANY ONE play Myers if theres now a better version of him?


Pig used to be able to stall a game using her RBT's because they were a requirement to get off to leave the match or you will die. Now it's like sitting in a ferris wheel knowing that after the game got stopped you dont have to worry because in 30 seconds it will begin AGAIN. (Aka doesn't stall for heck anymore)


Hag she can be powerful with some builds but her base kit is weak to all hell. And confusing to new players. I barely see hag and when I do they are camping and tunneling to all hell because shes weak. (Just like Leatherface but I dont own him because just no).


Plague what do I have to say for this one? Vomit is useless until it is corrupted. My first time playing plague I got pissed off because she was freaking terrible. Her power is litterally useless. Heck even now that i played 5 to 10 matches as her she still sucks. Theres not even an indicator that tells you how much sickness a survivor has. Like come on. At least TELL ME SOMETHING WITH THIS TERRIBLE POWER.


Legion... everyone's been complaining Legion is weak to BHVR and instead of buffs has seen more nerfs than any other killer or survivor perk on the META roster or the roster in general. I litterally dont need to explain this.


Demogorgon, he in general is weak. His lunge is unpredictable. Yes he can break pallets but he should be able to hurt a close by survivor who slammed the pallet down. His tunneling power needs a TR buff. When he gets out of the tunnel/upside down his terror radius SHOULD be hidden at least for 3 to 2.5 seconds. To catch his prey off guard.


Wraith, is a tiny bit more viable. But needs his cloak movement speed to be adjusted to make him a tiny bit faster to be able to close loops quicker.


Huntress, she seriously needs a crosshair or something it is nearly impossible in stressful situations to tell where the heck the center is when 5 gens are being popped after you throw one hatchet.


These characters (maybe not as much of Huntress) needs BUFFS not nerfs.


Also devs. If you are gunna nerf Killers. Nerf the survivor perks that will become a META perk after that killer's nerf.


And that is all I have to say. About feedback.

Comments

  • Vetrathene
    Vetrathene Member Posts: 1,425

    They only nerf killers now so survivors can have more fun.

  • FriendlyGuy
    FriendlyGuy Member Posts: 2,768

    Ever played against a coordinated swf with hag? They set off your traps while you are carrying someone and nullify your power completely.

  • Waffleyumboy
    Waffleyumboy Member Posts: 7,318

    Demo, Plague, and Hag aren't in need of a buff. I think you are newer and don't know the meta yet.

  • Micheal_Myers
    Micheal_Myers Member Posts: 1,147

    I'm not new. =/ I'm just stating facts of who should get a buff.

  • Waffleyumboy
    Waffleyumboy Member Posts: 7,318
  • ASpazNamedSteve
    ASpazNamedSteve Member Posts: 1,784

    Some weird killers to choose to buff, I think a lot of these are fine.

  • Waffleyumboy
    Waffleyumboy Member Posts: 7,318

    I meant my point about the killers needing buffs :P

  • Micheal_Myers
    Micheal_Myers Member Posts: 1,147

    Well Survivors pretty much can dominate litterally every game they are in, due to either bad map design or META perks.

    (Meta means an advantage over something so a meta perk build triumphs a lower perk build because it doesn't have advantages)


    So by them nerfing killers they are creating more META perks to dominate the killers which makes the game unfun to play killer. (Since killers in the game should be OP.)


    Safe Pallets, Constant L wall T wall and walls that you can see over close together also makes it extremely unfun to play as killer. So it's either time to say screw the survivors and provide buffs for killers or Nerf Litterally all META perks, and redo litterally every map. To make playing killer more viable.


    That's my opinion.

  • silverwolf4455
    silverwolf4455 Member Posts: 496

    Most of the issue is map design. Also L and T walls are not that strong of a structure, easily mindgamed, it's a 50/50.

    There have been several videos made from youtubers on what instant changes would make a majority of the maps more balanced. Many of them either need their god window removed or a doorway opened beside them.

    Also a more consistent spawning of looping structures. Maps can vary heavily, like 4 T and L walls spawning isn't as strong as 4 jungle gyms. And a lot of times they can be tied into each other to loop them for the whole game.

  • yoi
    yoi Member Posts: 338
    edited December 2019

    if u think hag and huntress are weak you know nothing about the game. you never mentioned the guys that actually needs work wich are the clown ( probably the weakest killer in the game cause doctor is getting reworked), trapper still pretty much conserved since day one with more nerfs than actual buffs he needs to stop walking to the other siide of the map to get his power. jsut to mention a few thet are screaming for a buff without mentioning the GUTTED to the ground ONI being a simple tire his counter. for plague would be nice to have her yellow addon to corrupt faster... casue without addons takes an entire life.

  • ASpazNamedSteve
    ASpazNamedSteve Member Posts: 1,784

    L and T walls can be strong if they're connected close enough to other strong tiles.

  • Micheal_Myers
    Micheal_Myers Member Posts: 1,147

    I haven't played clown. =/ his power just seems weak, could easily be buffed by buffing his refill speed. But then again that could be labeled as too OP if he can litterally slow down survivors in a chase like 90 times a minute... So clown is an iffy. And like I said about the huntress she just needs a crosshair or something. And that's really it. Hag needs a buff to her traps or something. Because imo shes weak unless you specifically put a specific build. Which should not be the case.

  • GodDamn_Angela
    GodDamn_Angela Member Posts: 2,213
    edited December 2019

    Imagine creating a thread asking for Killer buffs and list the Hag and the Huntress as two that need them but never mention the Clown.

  • silverwolf4455
    silverwolf4455 Member Posts: 496

    Only if they are connected to other structures. But if you instead have a jungle gym in its place connected to other structures it becomes ridiculous.

  • RandomHyperBeast
    RandomHyperBeast Member Posts: 35
    edited December 2019

    This is just a lie. Meyers is viable killer pig has ability sneak up completely plus lung and her traps really slow down the game. Hag can juggle and gain info quickly as well as has a large lunge. Plague does tell you info and either they don't clense and get one hit down or cleanse and you have corrupt. Legion actually kinda does need a small buff but nothing huge. If you learn how to play demogorgan, you can be really good with mind gaming and sneaking up on people(he has an amazing basement build) wraith is annoying to go against. He's not overpowered but he moves quick which allows him to force you to waste pallets or take hits. Huntress just needs hitbox fix. Any half decent huntress will be able to hit targets and down quickly crosshairs would be way overpowered but if your not skilled enough dont play her or measure nthe center.of your monitor/tv and put crosshairs yourself

    Edit: I agree that some maps are super survivor sided like haddon but this doesn't mean that survperks need nerd or killer perks need buff they need to fix maps. One last thing. If you really want to have fun with all your killers use:I'm all ears. Really good. Along with perks like discordance 1(not 3) trust me. Ruin, play with your food. These are all good perks that will make your like as killer earlier

  • Micheal_Myers
    Micheal_Myers Member Posts: 1,147
    edited December 2019

    Sure like that's feedback.


    Also its "Nerfs" not Nerds. Get it right next time before you try and talk stuff.

  • ALostPuppy
    ALostPuppy Member Posts: 3,398

    ....ok what? Huntress? You have to be trolling but let me run through these killers anyway:

    You realise Myers has to tier up, and then he becomes a normal M1 killer in tier 2 right? And spine chill doesn't work when he is tier 1. Also by that logic every single killer is countered by spine chill...

    Pig, maybe, but she can be good when you use her stealth and ambush correctly, pretty underrated abilities.

    Hag is good when the killer is good. And of course she's camping, she's hardly gonna chase survivors when she has the speed of a dying slug.

    Plague's ability isn't useless at all. Permanent instadowns and the constant vomiting is really good, and if survivors are dumb enough to cleanse you get the most broken ability in the entire game.

    I do agree that legion and wraith are just trash killers and need to be looked at though.

  • Micheal_Myers
    Micheal_Myers Member Posts: 1,147

    Myers IS counterable by spine chill. Tier 1 ONLY blocks aura reading perks like:


    - Kindred

    -OoO

    -Keys that has aura reading capabilities.


    But Myers in Tier 1 after his "Undetectable " change can be read by Spine Chill & Premonition. If you played Killer or Myers enough you would know this is a fact not an out of my butt statistic. Plus why play Myers if Ghostface is litterally a better version than him?


    Huntress doesn't really need a buff shes fine. That one was indeed a troll (But would be nice to have a Crosshair Disable or enable option in settings).

    Pig could be good in some situations I agree with you. But Devs stating that "RBTs slow the game down!" Is a false statement. They litterally find the key to the trap in 1 or 2 pulls. And Traps to survivors aren't a requirement anymore. They just do gens until the time is half way done. (Or even a quarter done.)


    Hag yeah... Kinda my point in the Original post lol. She needs a buff to something at least to make her viable with new players. (I have only played her once and said screw that nonsense.)


    Plague yeah but if they are smart survivors... (especially during derank season) then your nice green juice to them is like a 7 Hour energy shot to get stuff done then after all 5 (or 4) gens cleanse. But when I played her when I vomited on people it only told me they were sick. It never told me what level of sickness they were at. (You can see the levels of sickness when you are the survivor but not the killer..?) So she needs a slight buff and an indicator on the HUD of how sick the survivor is.


    Legion is god awful.


    Wraith is alright in certain conditions. But still needs to be looked at and tweaked a tiny bit.

  • ALostPuppy
    ALostPuppy Member Posts: 3,398

    Well I do play killer enough, I guess I just haven't noticed it when I play Myers since I usually have no problems getting into tier 2 and neither should you if you think you have his much experience as killer. You might want to reconsider how you play Myers in the early game then. Looking away from gens when approaching them etc if the survivors you go against really are that immersed.

  • Micheal_Myers
    Micheal_Myers Member Posts: 1,147

    They definitely are lol. Especially during this current derank season.

  • badster
    badster Member Posts: 46
    edited December 2019

    Huntress, demo, hag, myers, and plague? Weak? What?

    You literally said plague’s vomit is weak which is just beyond wrong. You’re literally one shottable all game unless you cleanse which makes her even stronger.

    Demo’s ability is great in chases and can be used to bait pallets/windows and his portals are great for map control.

    Hag is amazing if you play her correctly, she has constant map control and can basically face camp without being there.

    Huntress is amazing and doesnt need any tweaks at all, maps are the only thing that weaken her, the killer herself does not need buffs at all.

    Myers has no trouble getting out of tier 1, if you do i don’t know what to tell you except you’re the problem. He probably has the most snowball capability out of any killer.

    This whole thread is a yikes.

  • ALostPuppy
    ALostPuppy Member Posts: 3,398

    Bigg dicc terror radius Myers with perma tier 3 and infectious is funny af but also pretty good. Snowballing is basically always gonna happen if the gates aren't powered. Doesn't do much for your rank but all of Myers' interesting builds punish you for playing them anyway lmao

  • Hex_KillerMainBTW
    Hex_KillerMainBTW Member Posts: 449

    I love playing plague. But I would say she could use either a rework or change (like doctor/nurse).

    You puke on people, they get broken. 1-2 gens are left then they all cleanse away from the exit gates and gens being worked on.

    I wouldn't mind seeing them change the add ons and how the power works. Instead of breaking them, let them get injured and have add ons effect how being sick effects them. (Like a mix of how pig and doctor add ons work.) At least this will give them an incentive to cleanse so you can actually use the power. Because if I use iridescent seal with another add on for increased corrupt purge duration, entity forbid it because then I'll be accused of "try harding" or unable to use her without those add ons. Which is a shame. Doesn't stop me from doing it here and there. But still, she barely gets any points in deviousness.

  • Kycer
    Kycer Member Posts: 337

    Is it too much to make Pig walks at 110 while crouched? Would that really broke her? I love the pig but I rarely get to use her stealth power because it takes away too much map pressure from her :(