Can someone explain why gens are allowed to be done so fast?

And if you increase gen times, guess what. Everyone will have to bring a tool box. You've then created this problem on wider scale.

Because bigtards won't do anything in the lower ranks. I came back to console, Literally was not used to playing with the low sensitivity, and missed alot, and kept accidentally placing portals in the middle of chases. Would have been a 4k if Bill did not have door perks. Not a single gen was done.

Well, there are people with fewer hours than you that haven't been playing as long as you that manage without both corrupt and ruin.

Also, if you've been playing that long you'd remember gens use to be even faster, not counting things like original BNP.

Invalidating someone's question cause you think it's complaining is stupid as hell.

you cant just put on ruin, corrupt or pop and expect to win. you have to actually apply gen pressure and play smart if you dont want gens to be done against competent players

Lmao your useless

I don't care if you care! Just shut it so nobody has to read such pointless posts and waste any part of their life with your toxicity. The forums exist for people to talk about whatever they want. Instead of being constructive you are being garbage.

Man I thought no one could resist Scoops Ahoy

Yep. On older maps, if you have immersed survivors you run risk of losing early game (Yamoka estate). Plus, if you have a survivor run tiles in optional fashion, sometimes it can be up to 40-50 seconds of time sink until neighboring tiles are not safe. Long walls are a huge time sink.

If you commit to that, you lose. They end up saving that gen for last and it's a free generator due to how safe it is depending on killer choice.

Maps tend also to be too big.

They've stated they realize survivors don't want to be bored by having to hold M1 longer than they feel they should have to, so unfortunately don't expect anything to be done about it. All I can offer up is pressure gens hard and good luck. Given the RNG nature, especially on some maps, and the viability of some killers, that's not always great advice but it's the best one can do for the time being.

Look who's talking. You don't have to read anything you moron. You saw my comment and got triggered by it for now reason. Grow up.

People always complain about gen speeds but killers avg a 3k, do you want a 4k average?

Try running ruin, pop goes the weasel, tinkerer, surveillance, monitor, bitter murmur, rancor.. Then you could hump the three together gens. As a killer I have relatively little experience and 4k the 3 swf teams without camping or tunnelling as spirit. If they're not swf I don't even phase. I play trapper and still get 4k but swf will carve you up if your not boosted.. it's really no fun if the game is lopsided, and I don't need to be sweaty, if a survivor or 2 escapes hats off it was fun and prolly saw some smart moves.. STFU about getting burned. Survivors have to deal with more toxic killers, that use the adv of not SWF, than SWF because you got to the red ranks by camping and tunnelling.. I know alot of killers don't camp and tunnel, until the last survivor... They gens are hard to miss as killer, do some work... PLAY LIKE A CHAMP NOT A CHUMP!!

Because the gens arent scaled to skill level.

The gens are fine for everyone involved when the survivors are new or have a moderate amount of experience. But survivors that have essentially mastered gens can rush through them.

Nerf Ruins

TL;DR at bottom of post.

Generators been a problem for a while, and the developers need to make some changes to the core objective system instead of using perks to balance things out. This is something I always disagreed with because then players are forced to take up perk slots to balance the game out, instead of them using a variety of builds.

However, I don't want to get ahead of myself here, if we make changes to the core objective system, then we need to keep in mind that you're giving every killer a significant buff. If you throw in the current Ruin, Sloppy Butcher, Corrupt Intervention, No One Escapes Death, or Pop Goes The Weasel, games will be slowed to a crawl and survivors will likely make no meaningful progress at all at that point.

Therefore, some killers, specifically the powerful ones, might need to be changed or survivors will need something else to compensate for the extra time killers are given. This wouldn't be too harsh, just enough to prevent things for getting haywire. The same also applies to certain perks that affected game speed. 🤗😁

TL;DR

Generators are a problem and the entire survivor objective needs a huge over haul to solve this. However, we must keep in mind of the side effects in updating the old system because all killers are receiving a huge buff, as well as slow down perks — they might need a tweak, too.

To play Devil's Advocate, wouldn't that encourage deranking? 🤔

It's all relative to how you're playing, is what I've discovered. As a new player, playing Survivor, I feel like it takes a long time to get a Generator turned on. Playing as Killer, I feel like it's a decent amount of time. I never had an issue with patrolling Generators and applying map pressure.