What are survivors supossed to do when a killer do this and DC penalties are in?
I am supossed to wait to that sh!t h34d killer mori me or just bleedout?
Cause it will be boring af to wait untill I bleedout?
Instead of punishing your players with the 1000 balance problems and bugs this game has, why dont focus in fixing those and then adding the dc penalties (:?
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This is why I believe they should add a suicide option when being slugged for atleast 2 minutes or lower the slugged timer by 2 minutes
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Some trolls survivor can abuse this tbh.
Better this: If a killer cancel the mori animation 5+ times they can't use their mori on that survivor.
Or once they start the mori animation they can't cancel it.
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I would go to toilet, get myself some snacks or something to drink, watch yt vids or streams and then go into the next game tbh ^^
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That would be good, but some peoples like me that wants to farm some bps can't wait 2 minutes, that's a waste of time which I could make a lot of bps and is negated for a d!ck killer.
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I could never justify doing this when I play Spirit.. I don’t think adding a limit would fix this, sadly since she could’ve just done it four times then let him bleed/mori him.
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i honestly think the 2nd solution is the best idea, they shouldnt be able to cancel the mori
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I think that this amount of mori spam can be considered griefing and is reportable. Slugging is fine and yes it's boring but not good enough of a reason to DC. Sucks to be on recieving end of toxic killer tactics but survivors have them as well so just move onto the next game and try to not take it too personally.
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Survivors can't take the game hostage for an unreasonable amount of time not even allowing the killer to get bp for their time. Nice try though bud.
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Want to know how I can tell you weren't here before End Game Collapse?
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You say that since you never got survivors like that, they're pretty uncommon since it's extremely boring only the salties survivors do.
You're free to believe whatever you want but I faced them a few times and those games can last for extremely long time on certain maps if you don't play killer with enough tracking.
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End Game Collapse is here
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Second suggestion seems way easier and more sensible to implement.
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you cant wait 2 min? sounds like dbd is not the game for you :D
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He can't wait 2 mins if it's in addition to loading screens.
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The can hold other survivors hostage.
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Oh true. At least they will get banned fast if they do it too much.
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Proc endgame collapse and open exits (like after 30 seconds) if the killer 4 man slugs?
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oh well thats huge. Now I understand ^^
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If your the last survivor you should have the option of sacrificing yourself to the entity. I don't think there is any other reason to suicide
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But it is now here.
Stay in the present and not the past.
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It is like 3 or 5 minutes, add the loading screen and how long it takes to find a game and another loading screen..
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Mori spam can happen any time of the match, so this wouldn't fix the problem
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End Game Collapse was added because Survivors would open the exit gates then stay in the match for eternity.
Although they can't do that now, they are still fully capable of not doing gens and hiding forever.
Both sides can take the game hostage.
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No they can't you're just stuck in the past. Get over it, the game is better now.
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Stay in the present, as I said.
And they can only do that if there is other survivor left, which means it will be more easy than find only 1 surv.
So no they can't, and anyways we are not discussing that, stay in the topic.
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This just in; Survivors no longer have the ability to hide. More at 11.
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They can't hide. If they stay still too long they get crows.
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Nobody likes waiting but thats just how it is. There is no hostage situation and if the killer wants you to bleed out then well he leaves you on the floor for 2 min. If you dont like to get slugged you better bring a perk to help you out.
And yes you need to wait to answer your question.
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Survivors needs to move or they get crows, so you can use whisper (a very underrated perk) but no, people decide to use that trash perk only because X streamer uses it (bbq)
You just need to think like a survivor and review your enviorement
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The thing is
Is this healthy for the game...?
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Well thats a really good question. If we only talk about slugging I think its healthy and needed. As killer you use it to apply more pressure and as survivor you can counter it with teamwork. But there are certain situations where I think its unhealthy. For example to get the 4k and thats a completely different story. If we speak about mori spam thats just a nuisance. Maybe you could implement something that lets you cancel the animation once. Imo thats reasonable.
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The game should just commit the killer to the mori once they have pressed the button. I would hope they'll add this once mori's are eventually touched.
I had that top part typed out before but I lost that draft and forgot to re-add it after.
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@laurelstroodle @Waffleyumboy it is just harder for survivors to take the game hostage, it is more like bug abusing now. At least I know of certain spots where you can land on where the killer cannot hit you anymore.
The mori spamming is actually reportable as during the "mori charge" the bleedout timer stops progressing. So you don't get slugged for x minutes but for like more than 15 if you time it correctly. The game will end anyway but takes massively too long. Mori spamming should be fixed, at least by making the bleedout timer progress while charging the mori.
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Just popping in to comment on this one - when down to 2 survivors who both don't want to die they can easily hide around the map for a VERY long time wasting the killer's time. moving 10 seconds around in a generator-less area is quite easy to do to avoid crows. Once the killer stops gen patrolling because gens obviously aren't being worked on is when it actually 'gets' hard but survivors who decided they aren't working on gens anymore are VERY hard to find without whispers / an killer who gains information using their power.
If you search a bit on these forums you can see someone commenting on this having happened on hawkins specifically which can be quite easy to do since there's lockers galore, many small rooms to block sight. They spent near 15 minutes doing basically nothing and unlike bleed out timer he couldn't just wait for the game to automatically end.
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This I completely agree with, alongside things like possibly carrying. If a survivor is being on the ground for 3.5 minutes then finally being brought to a hook I doubt they want to possibly stay in that game much longer anyway. My friend once had a pre-rework freddy constantly pick up-drop till standing then downed again so as to delay his death as long as possible.
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All survivors have to do is emote and crows will never show up. Yes survivors can still take the game hostage. It isnt as bad as it was before egc but all you have to do is find a corner of the map and point constantly. No crows. No progress. Yes you need 2 people. No its not common. Bit neither is morispamming.
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Then the mori should be another button. Sometimes I want to M1 a survivor close by, however the game takes priority on the slugged survivor starting the mori animation. This often costs a hit already. If you are stucked the entire mori animation that survivor is gone for free
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same could be said for a 4man all hiding in lockers around the map, not doing gens.
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If you bleed out you deny the killer points. The obvious thing to do is hide. I don't see what the issue is here...
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I think remaining still while in the downed state should reduce your cries of pain. And crawling should bleed you out a little quicker to give slugged players a quicker end. Maybe tenacity should then have a passive effect of bleeding you out more slowly too.
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They need to assign certain functions to more buttons in general. It's absurd that 6 buttons on my comptroller's face do nothing. Is it a holdover from pc control limits or something?
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You can emote or spam the pick up/drop action if you have an item.
I know this because when you play solo a lot, you will often be the last survivor in the EGC, you need to be very patient and that could mean waiting a minute in the same place before you get an opening to get the Exit Gates. 😁
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True, we need much more button customisation. Imo every action should be able to be given his own button. Not only that, you should also be able to give two different buttons for one thing at the same time like many other games.
Always baffles me how this basic things still aren't in dbd in the year 2020
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Sucks that this happens but you can just DC for this
There's a reason the first penalties only last a minute
As long as you don't DC often it should'nt really effect you
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You can stand still and emote every 30 seconds or so and not get crows
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I think you should not be able to cancel a mori once its started, clicking it should start the animation like pig putting on traps.
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Make you're own thread, and discuss it by yourself, this is not your thread and stop discussing things off-topic.
Thank you :)
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It look like you dont understand.
Im saying when the killer starts mori spamming (like in the video) mori spamming adds a lot of time to the bleed out timer which make it annoying and time waster.
And isn't healthy for the game.
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It is really common in R1 (PC), those killers always think im in a SWF, so they always play toxic.
And I will not dc 2 times for get a 5 min penaltie.
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Or better:
Once the killer starts the mori animation they can't cancel it.
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