Killers and Tunneling

I honestly think this would be the best fix. Since some maps like cold wind are huge and some maps are small like Gideon. Seems like it would be hard to implement unless hooks were paired with gens which would be interesting to see.

They can penalize Killers for tunnelling and camping as soon as Survivors gets penalized for gen-rushing. I play both sides, so I get that tunnelling and camping are annoying to go against. But if a Killer is camping you, then they don't really benefit from it either. If you maximize it, you total hook time should be 2 minutes. That is long enough for the other 3 Survivors to each solo a gen and be nearly halfway done with another. On top of getting few Bloodpoints, the Killer also gets points taken away from one of their Emblems for staying too close to the hook. Also, if a Killer is chasing you right off a hook because your teammates went for a bad save, the blame shouldn't fall on the Killer. I've had too many games where I'd hook a Survivor, and as soon as I turned my back to walk away, their teammate unhooked them. Should Survivors be punished for unhooking a teammate within a close proximity to the Killer? It shouldn't be the Killers fault if the injured guy gets downed immediately because his teammate didn't wait for the Killer to actually leave the hook.

Pretty sure that was 100% sarcasm. But he does have a point. The OP is stupid and is honestly just a biased, salty Survivor main who just had a few bad games. Don't get me wrong, I've definitely had bad games as Survivor cuz I got tunnelled/camped. But I've also had bad games as Killer where I was looped for 4-5 gens.

I play on xbox and can say 50% of the games you play as survivor you are gonna get tunneled, you are gonna camped or you will play a decent game of dbd where you live or die but get hooked a certain amount of times, honestly loop as much as you can and if your team is getting gens done waste those pallets no reason not to plus if they tunnel you long enough they are wasting time and will lose the game for 1 kill. But on the killer side yeah there is toxic players who get on your nerves with infinites and flashlight clicking and swf who think they are gods at the game. So i do see why some do camp and tunnel but

Like I know if a killer tunnels you down and camps you he is penalized. I dont really know what you mean. They even reward you now relatively with points for gens while you are in a chase. I think maybe you missing the killer view here. Try to hard tunnel/camp as killer and check your statistic afterwards.

No, let people play how they want and stop asking people to play under the survivors rulebook for killers

Devs will never ban tunneling or camping they said it themselves get used to it

There are ways you can get around this, like using Decisive Strike or Borrowed Time. Doing a 1-for-1 and taking a hit for the facecamped survivor, or just genrush while there's no chance that the killer can stop it. Tunneling is a different matter, but it's only really done in mid-high ranks because low ranks know that it's a dick move. But survivors can be toxic all game and make themselves impossible to kill unless they're tunneled.

I think it goes both ways, killings tunneling, camping and survivors looping i think maybe an ingame boost like how killers get bloodlust the killer that's tunneling may get reduced movement speed i dunno..i personally don't care as i often deserve it

There are plenty of scenarios where tunnelling is justified at least imo. Majority of killers are reactive in nature and due to the state of that game or the attitudes of survivors will choose to tunnel one out the game, I don't believe many killers start the game with the intention of tunnelling.

Below is a list of a few scenarios where I would tunnel a survivor as in hook them twice in a row:

- game is going very badly, probably 1 gen left and I need to take somebody out of the game to stabilize.

- a survivor prioritizes doing a gen rather than healing themselves. These guys are fair game imo

- a survivor triggering my traps as hag...you are literally summoning me to you.

If a survivor is abusing God loops as they know it's an instant loss if I commit to them, I do the opposite. Mostly ignore them and focus the other 3. If two abuse the God loops I focus on the two that don't. It's unfair on those survivors but like I said earlier, killers are mostly reactive, we don't choose the scenarios.

It should be a penalty to camp. It hurts the overall score of the survivor. Survivors get penalized for not saving each other so why shouldn't the killer get penalized for hooking and forcing survivors to come to them.

Have you ever watched a horror movie where the killer just lets the survivor go? Didnt think so. Tunneling isnt a thing its just the killer playing the game. Get over yourself and learn how to hide better instead of being annoying and running in loops. If anything running in infinite loops should be penalized. Also, if I play against someone who i can tell is an infinite looper i purposefully "tunnel" and camp them just to piss them off often letting their teammates go free. I hope i see you in the fog so i can collect your snowflake tears.

The looping shouldn't be something to penalize the survivors for, if you get looped for 5 gens either it's the map that needs to be reworked or you are a bad killer

Imagine comparing a horror movie to an online pvp game.

You could have also just written "I'm bad".

I absolutely read your entire post, but I disagree. 9/10 if you get tunneled its because you've looped me all game, which is you absolutely asking for me to follow you, or you were toxic. But also why wouldnt a killer tunnel? There are plenty of very useful anti-tunneling perks. You expect me to give a single one of you a second to breathe? My job is in my name- KILLER. Not PLAY-NICER. Not SURVIVOR-FRIENDLY. Not PLAY-BY-SURVIVORS-RULE-BOOKER. No. Survivors dont have a single shred of respect for killers, they click flashlights all game, vault windows from across the map, teabag all over the place.. so why do we have to play nice? I don't agree with camping unless it's to secure a 1k at the endgame. And I, personally, dont tunnel unless you deserve it. But why do you guys have to ######### the second the killer so much as breathes in your direction? Dont wanna be tunneled? Bring DS. Bring self care or a medkit or adrenaline. Or dead hard. Or lythe. Have your team mates run BT. Get away and get healed. But dont complain about tunneling if you just said you looped him all game, some killers will absolutely "tunnel" you if you've looped them for more than 1 gen. You want my attention? You got it.

Sorry, I didn't find it very clear. So you mean to penalize them via emblem points like the camping penalty.

But your suggestions have loop holes in them, chasing a survivor too long doesn't neccesarily mean that they are tunneling them.

And multiple hooks could be more situational tunneling as you said you understood not to mention survivors could use it to their advantage.

I understand it sucks to get tunneled from start to finish but I don't see a way to punish killers for doing it without survivors abusing it. Maybe offer bonus bp for switching targets or something.

For reference, it takes 4 seconds to remove 1 second off a.gen for the killer.

Killers do not spawn on top of survivors. You are tunneled, because YOU dont hide.

Its OK that it is hard to get out of tunneling. Killer must be able to kill survivors, lol. What next - punish killers for hurting survivors?

If your life is so valuable, your teammates should go down for you before its too late. They should do it before you are at the death hook. If your teammates never really care about you, then you shouldnt play too careless. It all comes back to you, eventually. Think about it.

He's being sarcastic I think