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Survivors: How do you feel about hook suicides?
Talking about your personal opinion when you are in a game and someone immediately suicide on a hook.. I find it completely unsportsmanlike & find it the same as Dcing only with slightly more respect for the killer.
This is NOT a suggestion for it to be bannable or removed just wanted to know opinions.
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It’s so obvious when they suicide to spite someone and to that I say they’re small cowards with jello for backbones. I guess maybe the one exception is if your team didn’t even bother trying to save you, might as well go to the next game and hope someone makes an effort.
Although sometimes life happens and it’s better to die on the hook than to dc.
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I don't really care from both sides.
Killer gameplay gets cut short, but you get a huge advantage.
Survivor gameplay is just way too chill for me to care.
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Only if the team didnt try to help me. Or if by not suiciding, i allow them to be baited by a camper killer. And either are always done when hooked the second time.
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It sucks. It happens so often that I get a sinking feeling as soon as the first person is hooked because half the time they start struggling instantly.
I'm glad 3v1 games are cancelled now, but they still exist in this form. And I don't blame anyone who decides to DC when a teammate insta-kills themselves with 5 gens left.
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An interesting topic you are touching right there. Yes it is unfair for the survivors and harms the survivor's experience. The bad thing is that it can't and shouldn't be punished
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It sucks but I get it. I've done it a few times because of my teammates.
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I play both killer and survivor and come across this a lot. I can see why some killers see it as an advantage if they don’t play survivor but when I’m the killer I feel uneasy when someone hook suicides because it just isn’t fair.
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Doesn't bother me much, i do it sometimes too because of teammates, killer/add on i dislike to play against or they have a mori.
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Same, hate it as both sides. It needs to be adresseded somehow, hopefully fixed by reworking hook states.
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Depends really. I always wonder why someone does it, but I don't see anything wrong with it if they arnt having fun.
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If our team is getting dumped on, then I can't say I blame the person for wanting to leave early.
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I do it if my teammates sandbag me for example if they get seen at the start and lead the killer to a generator I am on only for the killer to chase me and of course whenever I get chased there isn't a pallet in sight so I'm just gonna kill myself on hook so I can move on to the next match and not waste my time
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If you get downed at the start of the match and are so upset about it that you hook suicide or disconnect on the spot, you are weak and I hate you.
Literally happened to me 3 games in a row last night and it drives me up a wall!
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I don't usually do it, tbh. But when I do, it's because of the team mates I'm getting. Either a SWF who won't save, sand bag me, or if I see that they have literally not done anything midway the match. I kid you not, there have been some games in red ranks where a killer won't even have ruin, and it's like my team mates are allergic to gens. Don't see the point in staying around in those types of matches.
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I hate when it's done at the very beginning of a match. It's just cowardly and weak. Matches turn around all the time. It doesn't matter if you get hooked within the first 20 seconds of the match. There's a lot of opportunities to rebound from that and escape the Realm. People are just weak.
If it's done at the very end of the match with only one other Survivor left, then it's more understandable.
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If the game bugs, i'm DCing. If you facecamp me or hard tunnel me, i'll DC/Suicide. No points, no fun, Not staying. Pretty simple. I'm not here for anyone else but me. If i don't earn anything, not gonna stay. It's a video game. It's not to be taken that seriously. Especially with BHVR's serious lack of addressing the issue. That DC Ban test for a few days was not a step in the right direction. No body addresses the totality of why people DC. First downed isn't as often as people think. While toxic players cause people to DC way more often. Neither have been addressed.
-Sandbagged intentionally by another survivor(locker spam/pointing while running bond)/Unsafe Unhooks, body blocking into corners.
-3 Man SWF DC. Lawl yeah no thanks. i'm deranking anyway.
-Slugged/Camped/Tunneled, I can see why someone would DC. Don't blame them
-Gamebreaking bugs: Wiggle/Struggle spam glitching(Yeah you can't help but die if you're in phase 2 and it bugs) Basement infinite blind/world fall through, you never recover. You have to DC from what i've experienced. Stuck on terrain: you have to be downed and picked up by the killer. Most every killer will leave you until you're the last one left. I'm DCing.
Rubberbanding- Killers using a VPN to completely cross into another hemisphere or has really really really bad Walmart brand internet. If you warp around like Goku, imma head out.
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It probably is bannable due to not participating in normal gameplay.
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It's fine, for the most part.
The whole 'bad sportsmanship' take is a joke take tbh. Usually when someone suicides, I'm like 'yeah fair enough'.
Things like being the first found survivor as an example.
The reality being that if you are first found, the likelihood that your game will be camped tunneled out of existence increases exponentially. So when you get a killer with hex ruin up, that's running laps around the basement not letting anyone unhook and you KNOW your BP generation is going to be nothing. It becomes less of a 'why suicide' and more 'why would you want to stick around'.
It's been interesting to watch the evolution of survivor players since release as they've had to endure nerf after nerf and manage their enjoyment of the game around that.
It started with 'pull plug' disconnect that happened back in the day, then the devs said if you use it you'll get banned. So survivors migrated to leaving games, which the devs then said 'oh were gonna classify this as a disconnect now too', so therefore bannable. This process as been over the years since release.
So were now at the 'suicide on hook' phase, which I 100% guarantee you will get addressed. They won't be able to turn this into a 'disconnect' so they'll have to rejig the system.
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Oh there you go. That's how they can slip in that rule to make it bannable -.-
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100% this. If the devs cant manage survivor fun in the game... well.... survivors will have to manage it themselves.
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They are tragic.
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It depends on the situation. If you're facing a toxic killer, or have useless team mates, then I think its fine. Why should you waste your precious free time on something you are not enjoying just to appease a bunch of strangers? End it and hopefully move onto a better match.
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I downed someone with a Leatherface on the Oni's release day. New Map 38 seconds in I find them at shack I spawned at opposite corner. Saw 2 Yui I chased one towards shack she decided to run around the log back in the direction we came from towards the pallet. Downed her with chainsaw and put her in the hook by the 50 second mark.
As I walked away Ruin popped as did Discordance. I was halfway across the map when she decided she was done. Ended up farming with the remaining 3. Not fun in that situation to really play
Numbers where from a recorded video since I was curious.
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It's no different than disconnecting and shouldn't even be possible.
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I only do it under certain circumstances. The main one is a killer that camps and immediately tunnels someone the moment they are removed from a hook. At that point my game is over whether I suicide on hook or wait to be hung 2 more times. In that situation I choose to move on to the next game. I'm not going to waste my time waiting on someone that has already proven they are simply going to immediately tunnel me for 2 more hooks.
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Tbh, i feel discouraged to play the game "normally" because of how other people play. So i'm just gonna meme. Don't really struggle. Found me? Free hook state, just so i can see how youre gonna play. Plus, I feel like looping is #########. No horror movie in the history of anything had survivors running a supernatural killer around a bunch of wood between a pallet. This is supposed to be a big game of hide and go seek but no points ever for being good at hiding.
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i hate them.
its basically a DC with extra steps.
and if you know me you will know that DCs / players leaving the game early without any solid reason are what i hate the most in this game.
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That's it in a nutshell, at the end of the day its a game that's supposed to be fun, you play it as such, if its not fun you do one of 2 things, make it fun or stop playing.
Interesting point:
Survivors were supposed to play 'sneaky sneak' at release. I remember watching one of Tru3 streams while he lectured survivors about 'how they should be playing' 🙄
The devs failed to predict the whole juking phenomena.
Truth be told I think this games' success was in part by accident due to the emergent behaviour that came from survivors, because this game would have gotten boring REAL fast if it was all about hiding.
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Literally the same way everyone does about dcs
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Its built into the game. If players cannot disconnect. Simply put, we can submit to the killer and be done. They can chose to kobe the hook. I do it if my team mates are refusing to participate in a match. If players do it to me, I follow suit.
If staff wants to remove this, they certainly can. I have no objection.
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I'm aware of how the game was intended to be played. Ive been playing since there were only a literal handful of killers. You know what else is boring? The meta, that the dev cannot fix because they don't even know how to fix the bugs they have. Ugly cosmetics, not even funny ugly. I can hear Dwight's new elf costume from 50 yards away. Glow in the dark paint cosmetics? come on.. in the last 6 months they've crippled solo players to the point its not even close to being fun to play. Then you have toxic survivors who troll other survivors, which if you play SWF you'll never see them. The entire time i played SWF when i first got the game I didn't have a problem. Playing solo is leagues harder and its not rewarded, at all. You get rewarded for playing like a jerk more often than anything else.
Survivors cannot make the game fun. Period. They have next to know control how the game flows unless they are spectacularly good at looping and/or using Flashlights. The killer dedicating to chase and not gen pressure leads to gen rushing, which leads to tunneling/camping etc. Its not git gud anymore. I used to get blinds in p2p, now because of trash servers i can't even get a blind unless they're kicking a pallet. Half the time I have to aim at the forehead because of the latency the killer has to the server. DBD is constantly losing player base numbers. 20-22k player on average and i'm waiting 10+ minutes for a queue as killer, half hour + during non peak times. i literally cannot do the killer side of the rift because of how bad the gameplay has become. Every game, when i find out the killer, 75% of the time i already know all 4 perks they're running because everyone uses the OP meta setup. That being said, until BHVR pulls their heads outta their ***** i'm not spending another penny on this game. I used to buy loads of humble bundles when DBD came up and gave them away for free to people. Nah. On that note, i can say pretty much screw this game.
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No doubt it was much better when they disconnected, now I waste my time going to rescue a person who is going to commit suicide and ruins the game in a much worse way than when they disconnected, I risk my life in going to rescue someone who is going to commit suicide and very possibly thanks to it the killer finds me, also gives free barbecue and chili to the killer, therefore suicide is really much worse than disconnection.
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Depends - if other survivors are demonstrating very poor tactics, such as running up to save me, while injured, when the killer is chasing them, and with two other healthy survivors still in play who can make a safe save - I might just slip.
A lot of these suicides are actually a statement to bad survivors on their side, not just killers.
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I have done it on occasion. If I am just hanging there and my teammates are on the other side of the map and not even going to try and rescue me, then there is no point sticking around. Thankfully that doesn't happen all that often. I might also do it if being camped. That's not fun for anyone but the killer, and if I am just being used as bait to kill the rest of the team, I have no problem sacrificing myself for the good of the team. Since I now frequently run kindred, it is less of an issue. In fact, if the rest of my team sees that I'm being camped and works on gens, I will hang on for the entire time, to waste as much of the killer's time as possible and let my team complete as many objectives as possible.
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The game has definitely become a parody of itself.
I see it pop up on survey's or get asked as a question from time to time about how scary people find the game. I find it a funny question because the game is just not in that place anymore. I wonder if this is something that affects new players, because I doubt anyone who has experience in the game gets scared. You might have jump scares but its still not scary. The more splatter they add to the screen for 'immersion', the more 'one-shots' they add, the more I find myself rolling my eyes.
I don't necessarily like the meta but its what's carried this game as far as it has and why the game is still relevant when other 4v1 died a long time ago. Maybe what were seeing now is DBD just looking to grab what it can (money) before it too is irrelevant.
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