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Please buff The Pig :(

kate_best_girl
kate_best_girl Member Posts: 2,184
edited December 2019 in General Discussions

@Peanits @not_Queen

Do you guys have any buffs planned for The Pig? Id love to see our Piggy mama be brought up :')

Comments

  • Primalux135
    Primalux135 Member Posts: 1,045

    Buff to make

    -Roar out, no charge bar

    -115% movement while on crouching mode.

    -Add ons that decrease charge now will increase the time of ambush dash.

  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243

    I think they are on holiday, they should be back soonTM. :P

  • PistolTimb
    PistolTimb Member Posts: 1,413

    She needs an add-on rework and her dash needs improvements.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671

    There are some small things here and there but the main issue is her ambush/crouch.

    It needs to be able to counter loops better than it currently does. Currently 9/10 times you are better off just uncrouching and going for an M1 rather than ambushing and that illustrates a problem with it.

  • Liruliniel
    Liruliniel Member Posts: 3,047

    She has a lot going for her, but really mostly she just needs a few minor tweaks towards the stealth mechanics. Her biggest issue is her roar notification on the charge bar, crouching speed, crouch movement, and her PoV when crouched is pretty low. The Devs mentioned that they were doing changes to her addons. Flew in a well respected Pig main, but that was the last I heard of it.

    Only reason I have issues with the crouching speed is for a killer who tries to mind game pallets with her Ambush dash. Both are incredibly bad for those.

  • PigMainClaudette
    PigMainClaudette Member Posts: 3,842

    I find a fair bit of success with Pig, but I still think that she needs minor tweaking before I'm going to call her "Fine"


    Dash is the biggest one. It charges too slowly for what you get. And the roar just gives you away too much. Ghostface moves the same speed when he's crouched, so why don't I get the same? Not to mention that the ability to grab from stealth would be appreciated.

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 16,352

    There are a few things I would like to have for PIg. In general I think that she is underrated, she has good Slowdown-Potential with the Traps, once you have like one or two Traps on peoples head, when you are in a chase, the game is basically hold at this point.

    However, a few things I would like to change:

    Her Ambush:

    I dont think that her Ambush is good as it is. It can be useful on some Loops, but thats it. Most of the time I use the Ambush just to get some BPs, in areas where the Survivor would have gotten an M1-Hit anyway. You are better off by just chasing someone with 115% Movement Speed, than trying for some Dash-Mindgames at Loops, most of the time.

    Her Traps:

    Her Traps are fine from the way they are designed. They also dont need to be active during EGC, they should not work that way and this is fine. However, to spice up her Traps, you MAYBE can think about the key not being in the first Box, which would result in people searching at least two Boxes. But thats a MAYBE.

    However, I think her Add Ons can get some love:

    Amandas Letter-->Change from pink to purple. No other changes. I think Amandas Letter is quite good as it is, but not as a pink Add On. Because you will most likely also have to use a Map Offering, because otherwise it might be wasted. Nobody wants to use Amandas Letter on Rotten Fields. for example.

    Amandas Secret-->

    • Gain a notificationΒ when a Survivor removes aΒ Reverse Bear Trap.
    • AurasΒ 
    • Β of Survivors removing aΒ Reverse Bear TrapΒ are revealed to The Pig forΒ 6 seconds.
    • DisablesΒ The Pig's ability to see the Auras ofΒ Jigsaw Boxes.

    This is what it does. And it is one of the worst, if not THE worst Add On of her. I dont see any way why I should use that. What I would like to see:

    Increase rarity from purple to pink.

    Effect: The Key is ALWAYS in the last Box. Also the Timer should be increased so that it will not be too deadly, it should waste a lot of time, but not be something that would basically result in death nearly all of the time, which can happen with Extra Boxes or Tampered Timer/Crate of Gears.

    (Also an Idea that came to my mind, that in NO Box is a key. The Trap will not kill the Survivor in this case, but will fall off when the Timer runs out. This would be really cool with the rigged way of Amandas games, and also a tracking tool, however, when people realize that the Traps will not be deadly, they will not search Boxes, negating the Slowdown completely for tracking, which is not really that useful I would say)

    Then I have some Add Ons I would like to see:

    Stronger Version of Combat Straps-->A yellow and MAYBE green Version which is basically Combat Straps, but better.

    Add On which removes her Roar-->Maybe yellow. Something that helps when the Pig actually ambushs someone.

    Stronger version of Last Will-->Two extra Traps.

    Those are the Add Ons I think can be reworked to my suggestions:

    • Utility Blades-->Survivors caught in a Reverse Bear Trap suffer from theΒ HaemorrhageΒ 
    • Β Status Effect.

    The most useless Status effect, no need to have it on Pigs Bear Traps as an own Add On. Either tie it to the Mangled Add On, or make it baseline (I mean, that person has a Trap attached to his Jaw, they will be bleeding).

    • Razor Wires-->Moderately increasesΒ Jigsaw BoxΒ Skill CheckΒ 
    • Β Trigger odds.

    More Skill Checks? Cool, less time to get rid of a Trap! Awesome! Does only help vs new players, experienced players will not have a big problem with that, it will benefit them.

    • Interlocking Razor-->Tremendously increasesΒ the Regression penalty of failed Skill Checks onΒ Jigsaw Boxes.

    I mean, can be nice in combination with Razor Wires, and if people start to panic, they will miss Skill Checks. But again, this is something that punishes bad Survivors more than good Survivors.

    So the stronger Combat Strap Add-On can either replace Razor Wires or Utility Blades.

    The roar Add-On, also Razor Wires or Utility Blades.

    And the two extra Traps can replace the Interlocking Razor.

    Another aspect. Cuteness:

    How dare you?! Pig is cute enough, and now boop that snoot!



    Anyway, I think this would finetune the Pig a little bit. I dont think that she needs major Buffs, she is 100% underrated. But making her Ambush a little bit more worth it and finetuning her Add Ons will help her.

  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 12,871

    "They also dont need to be active during EGC, they should not work that way and this is fine."

    I was on board until here. :P

  • Kagari_Leha
    Kagari_Leha Member Posts: 555

    she's fine, and i tell this as a piggy main :c

    she's not top tier sure, but she's not in a bad position like Clown for example. Tho I agree with Ghostface's crouching in the game, maybe we could give her bit of boost when she crouches. Also her brown add-ons are kinda pointless, the rest is great.

  • Star99er
    Star99er Member Posts: 1,463
    edited December 2019

    She’s not too bad. Maybe a couple of small buffs like buffing her crouch movement speed by 2% & increase the duration of her ambush by like .15 seconds.

  • CrtKazz
    CrtKazz Member Posts: 214

    Amanda’s secret is awesome on extra jigsaw trap add ons. I usually use sloppy with it too so they are mangled then when they get the bear trap off I know where they are And they are mostly still injured. I’ve dashed many a people with this add on and them not knowing. Underrated add on.

  • 28_stabs
    28_stabs Member Posts: 1,470

    I dont understand why her terror radius was nerfed. If you dont want stealth killers, dont make stealth killers.

    Her power can help around small loops, IF survivor make a mistake.. but in general the dash is useless.

    Another the bottom tier m1 killer.

  • Miss_Britannia
    Miss_Britannia Member Posts: 165

    I agree 100%

  • RaSavage42
    RaSavage42 Member Posts: 5,566

    Imo she just needs her add-ons readjusted

  • ImmortalReaver
    ImmortalReaver Member Posts: 243
    edited December 2019

    The roar should still be there but activate later on in the charge.


    I think something should be done about the traps. I have about 600 hours into the game and I've only seen MAYBE 2 bear trap kills.

  • Darkskies
    Darkskies Member Posts: 1,158

    Plz devs I allowed the dwelfs to live piggy deserves buffs πŸ·πŸ’•πŸ’–πŸ½πŸ–πŸ’•

  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 12,871

    You probably would have gotten them just as well, if not better, without Amanda's Secret.

  • RaSavage42
    RaSavage42 Member Posts: 5,566
  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 12,871

    To be fair, I was playing only in low purple ranks (8-7), but I managed to get six trap kills yesterday playing as Pig.

  • Liruliniel
    Liruliniel Member Posts: 3,047

    I've gotten maybe 5. 2 of which are a friend with bad RNG. Everytime I face him I switch to Pig because he knows me too well on how I play non stealth killers.

    *bows before the Pig God of RBT Kills*

  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 12,871
    edited December 2019

    To be fair, I imagine there was a high amount of potatoing involved in those kills. Six seems like an outrageously high number of RBT kills to get in one session (even considering that I only played Pig that session).

  • anarchy753
    anarchy753 Member Posts: 4,212

    About 80-90% of her add ons need reworks, they provide nothing of value. Some base kit tweaks would be nice (as well as relevance of the traps in the late game) but most of her issues would be fixed by just giving her add ons that do something.

  • ImmortalReaver
    ImmortalReaver Member Posts: 243

    Cool story, but what's your point? That doesn't change the fact that I said I had 600 hours in the game and have only seen maybe 2 trap kills.

  • RaSavage42
    RaSavage42 Member Posts: 5,566

    So what's your point, that you play the game more then me... if so good for you

    I only said how many trap kills I had just like you did @ImmortalReaver

    It doesn't change the fact that I seen more

  • Primalux135
    Primalux135 Member Posts: 1,045

    I don't think traps kill are the problem indeed THE ONLY PROBLEM IS if survivor try to ESCAPE THE TRIAL RBT ACTIVATES AND KILL It but seems HATCH IS NOT AN ESCAPE...

  • Unicorn
    Unicorn Member Posts: 2,340

    No! Then her cute little sneezy stun noises will turn into scary growls.