Matchmaking needs fixed before anything else in DBD...

They aren't lying, that's how it's supposed to work but it's currently broken.

Nope, they deleted that from the patch notes. Probably decided not to do it

This is one of the reasons why this game is very hard to balance. If a solo survivor playing with other solo survivors or playing with a swf group were forced to have the same rank color has the highest rank in the group and the same color of other solo survivors in the lobby and if killer had to be the same color of the solo survivors or the same color of the highest survivor in a group, there wouldnt be so many red rank survivors. The game would be more balanced and more easily balanced by the devs. 6 rank difference is just too huge. Since the ranking system itself is harder to pip from color to color, the killer should always be the same color as the survivors or highest ranking survivor in a group. The games would be more balanced and not a lottery like they corrently are.

It's true that it might take longer to start a match but at least most matches would be worth playing. As is, most matches aren't even worth playing because of that rank difference that makes the killer experience very frustrating.

I read somewhere that they took it out of the changes list. I think they will keep showing ranks at the end.

About the matchmaking, if they did a rank reset (everyone to 20 or an old rank reset like they did up to 2 months ago and changed the rank difference for color (like I proposed), there wouldn't be so many red rank survivors (I probably wouldn't be one or would stuggle a lot to keep it) and so the times wouldn't be as large as you might think. They just had to "start over" because implementing it with so many red rank survivors would be a mess...

Also, they seem wanting to do complete cross-platform, that would significantly "increase" player base but first they would have to allow consoles to use keyboard and mice and I don't see such implementation in a near future. It is a complex subject by itself.

The survive with friends ruins matchmaking because of the ranking gap between killer and highest rank survivor of the party. Again, if it were like I propose, the red ranks swf with rank 20s would rapidly go to purple because even with coms, would be very hard to pip aginst a red rank killer if you have rank 15 or 20 in your lobby!

The one that dc'd? Hehe... just kidding!

Yes it is currently broken. But I don't think it is always SWF you are facing.

Official statistics they released once showed that across all platforms full team SWF was around 4%.

I could give you some of my screenshoots as well, but they basicly look the same

Yep, completely agree, like I said in other posts on this thread and that's also why I gave some ideas how it MIGHT help fixing it a bit.

Although I'm a main survivor, I've played more killer recently than usual because of waiting times and I got to purple ranks for the first time. I barely ever get a match against purple survivors... is always red ranks and i feel powerless! Since I'm a main survivor It doesn't hurt me as much as it hurts a main killer because I don't really care about rank as killer (and as survivor as a matter of fact, sincve I already got the steam achievement as survivor, rank means nothing anymore). But I wouldn't like to be a purple rank survivor always facing red rank killers so I understand the frustration!

I see many people say that ranking system needs fixing but in my opininion, it will never be fixed before fixing matchmaking first.

One more thing, I'm actually glad the OP changed the title os the thread because I completly agree with the new one.

1. Matchmaking system it the base for almost everything that's wrong in DBD (exception being the bugs that is an ALMOSTcompletly independent problem). Let me elaborate a bit:
2. Without a good matchmaking system it is impossible to have a good ranking system because there will always be (as things are right now) survivors in ranks way above the rank they should be in (and against me I speak). The ranking system can't be fixed because of that, they can never make a good ranking system with survivors being constantly paired up with killers way above their ranking color. Red rank survivors playing against green rank killers will always result in bad statistical data.
3. Without a good ranking system it is impossible to balance the game. All the balance changes are just supported by the corrupt data stated above and so it will always be a mess because they are balancing the game around data and personal experiences from, AS AN EXAMPLE, bad red rank survivors playing against good green or purple rank killers or, AS ANOTHER EXAMPLE, bad red rank survivors playing against good red rank killers. Then you get average red rank survivors (that in reality should be struggling between rank 5 and 4, like probably the biggest majority of red rank survivors) that get a rank 9 killer and completly smash them and when getting rank 1 or 2 killers are completly smashed by them and complaint that the killers are just too strong!!!

Then the balancing changes arrive correcting those mistakes and it loops back to the 2nd point (the bad ranking system point) and the problems start snowballing. And then they will have to loop back to problem 1 (the bad matchmaking system) and put an even bigger HARD LIMIT, so that people can be paired up to get a game because it will be even harder to play has killer and there will be even less red rank killers. And then even more ENTITLED survivors arrive complaining because they have an easy way going into red ranks and consider themselves great players! When I said above that aginst me I speak, I'm rank 1/2 but comparing myself with many survivors I encounter I should be one of those survivors that should be struggling in purple ranks or even between green and purple. I'm not ashamed of saying this because I can self analyze my skills compared to others and thats how I feel my rank should be and the thing is... I get paired up with red ranks that seem even a lot worse than me but ofcourse (everyone can have a bad game and so I can't confirm if they really are worst or just had a bad game... it happens! But analyzing my skills I can so I assume many other survivors are AT LEAST in the same boat as I am. And those entiled survivors will keep complainting and the changes will keep happening and the snowball will keep growing!

When I get paired up against red rank killers I really struggle to maintain rank let alone pip up! At least I have the decency to recognize that I shouldn't complaint about the killers being too strong because I know that I got to the rank I currently am at because of many matches paired up against a lot less skilled killers!

Nah, it's much easier to just hide ranks.

Or just not give a ######### about killer enjoyment period, because who cares if the killer gets ######### stomped by survivors way above their skill level?

The survivors had fun and weren't frustrated so that's all that matters.

I disagree. I put up with a ton to play this game. The matchmaking the heavy unbalance, the bugs, etc. I'm not waiting 10+ minutes to play a game. I'll keep an eye out to see if it ever improves but I'm done playing as of now until I can actually get a game without needing to play a game on my switch to pass the time waiting on a game in dbd lol.

One of many examples. Mine is the one crossed out in red.

Note: I'm playing on Xbox so PTB isn't a thing. That's why you can still see rank.

It's not broken.

Most of the higher ranking killers that face those there high ranking survivors don't want to play anymore, because... Well I think we all know what's going on this time around.

So, the next killers in line, is everyone else. Not enough of the high ranked ones to go around. 1 to 4 ratio, it's unbalanced from the start. There will always be more high ranked survivors to go around than killers. Regardless of if killers want to play right now or not, it's always going to be an issue.

I am very new to this game(less than 2 months), better late than never, and wish I had played it when it first came out. I am getting destroyed just about every game I play. When playing as the killer I’m consistently getting paired against level 2-8’s. The game is over in less than 5 minutes and I’ll be lucky to get one kill. For new players it’s very discouraging for this to happen. A part of a good games success is to bring new players in consistently. The matchmaking the way it is will cause new players to uninstall the game faster than it took to install it. Maybe I’m wrong but that’s my opinion. Hopefully they fix it soon.

Yeah I'm a rank 13 killer..I bounce around between 12 and 13 actually and I get a lot of red ranks. Some will be red and purple mixed but rarely will I see someone in green.

On the one hand I agree with your point. They need to fix MMR and get it back live ASAP.

On the other hand, your build is exactly as sweaty as theirs and 4-7 ranks in a game like this doesn't mean anything. Rank is more of a reflection of play time than skill.