Is a SWF with 4 Up The Antes + 4 Slippery Meat worth it?
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lets do some C A L C U L A T I O N S than!
Lets see here, a base 4% chance is given off the bat to kobe off the hook, and you have 3 chances to do so before you go into the 2nd phase.
First, we'll talk about Up the Ante
The perk doesn't say that it won't stack with itself on the DBD Wiki or in-game, so we can assume that it will for this experiment. So, 3% for each Up The Ante on all Survivors that're remaining, 4 Up the Antes, and the 4% default kobe potential for each Survivor, this makes a grand total of 16% for each Survivor.
second, the potential for adding in some luck offerings into it!
Now, add 4 Vigo's Jars of Salty Lips for another 3% bonus to luck for EACH Vigo's Jar, and that's another 12% onto the 16%, making it 28% for each Kobe chance. The default chances to unhook yourself is 3, than you go into the 2nd phase.
last, slippery meat
With all that being said above, we'll end off with Slippery meat. Slippery meat will give you 3 extra escape attempts on-top of the default 3, making it a total of 6 chances for each Survivor. So, 6 chances + 28% for each chance is a decent way to unhook yourself, since the odds are a quarter of a 100%+, but it's always a 28% for each escape attempt.
is it worth it though?
Well you're wasting 2 perk slots for each Survivor to do this, and if you wanted to use another offering, than you can't.
If we take away the Vigo's Jar offerings, than you're left with a 16% chance for 6 attempts each, but you're still wasting 2 perks EACH for this to work. So, is it worth it? Honestly... if you just use Borrowed Time, Dead Hard, or Decisive Strike, than that's more worth it than this in my opinion...
But!!!
If you're looking for a potential self unhook build for a SWFs, than this is indeed an option... that or just have everyone use Deliverance with Borrowed time, Deliverance is a 100% chance to unhook yourself when you get a safe unhook...
You can even use "We're Gonna Live Forever" to rack up some BPs on top of that. So, is this better than what I suggest?
Personally, i'd say no. Mainly because there are better alternatives that work with pre-existing meta builds AND also can be a rewarding endeavor with the right perks.
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Yes but the alternatives out-weigh this heavily, which is why I don't think it's worth it. Besides, Deliverance is (again) a 100% unhook for yourself when you unhook someone safely, and you can use Borrowed time to ensure this while also using We're Gonna Live Forever for some extra BPs.
Or swap Borrowed Time for something like We'll Make It to easily heal them.
Also, I don't understand your calculations. It's a flat 4% by default for everyone to unhook themselves, add 4 3%'s from 4 Up The Antes and that's increased to 16% for each Survivor, since it gives 3% for each Survivor that's alive.
Add 4 Vigo's Jars and that's increased by another 12% since the DBD Wiki claims it's another 3% additional luck. That's 28% + 6 chances to unhook yourself with the 3+ chances that Slippery Meat gives to the default 3 chances you get. So that's 6 chances with a 28% chance each time to unhook yourself.
Still, all that prep isn't worth it (to me), since one perk can guarantee a 100% chance when you get a safe unhook. 1 perk versus 2 perk slots used and 1 offering spot, without the offering the odds decrease drastically. a 16% chance (Without 4 Vigo's Jars) is still a slim chance, even with 6 chances.
More chances doesn't mean that 16% becomes 32% on the 2nd attempt, it's still a 16% chance for each attempt. Meaning you could very well not unhook yourself on all 6 of those attempts, even if the odds increases to 28%. It's all RNG, even a 80% success rate can fail! The odds may be better, but it can happen.
So, to me, it isn't worth it.
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I did some calculations, and if everyone used Up The Ante + Slippery Meat, you will have a 4% chance not to unhook yourself.
I never tried this in a SWF, so that's why I'm asking if this would be worth it in a group because you can say, "I don't need to be unhooked, do generators".
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